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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 16, 2015 15:12:50 GMT -5
Martel vs. Santana...I can't remember Tito getting one win. Dusty Rhodes vs. Ted DiBiase (Dusty even lost to VIRGIL. In 30 seconds.) Vince McMahon vs. WWE character Eric Bischoff PWS vs. fans who know that there's a-holes on the roster while no one else recognizes it.
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Post by chronocross on Dec 16, 2015 15:23:11 GMT -5
Did Hulk Hogan ever loose to Vader? Because he no sold him like crazy Hogan never pinned Vader in any of their encounters, there was a DQ win, one where he pinned Flair for some reason and the last one he escaped the cage before Vader did.
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Post by evenbroddt on Dec 16, 2015 15:45:39 GMT -5
Vader vs. Inoki. First match was a squash, second was a tad more competitive, third was finally a Inoki win but only after getting destroyed. Raven vs. Dreamer. Pretty sure Raven has won all but their Wrestlepalooza match. He even won the "final encounter" Regal vs. Benoit. All amazing matches, pretty sure all won by Benoit. Orton vs. Triple H. I don't think Randy has won any of their matches rather than No Mercy 07. And finally the best feud, Hart vs. Austin. Austin never got the upper hand. There was a nearly a damn riot when Vader defeated Inoki and I think there was reports of a hit being put on him. I remember reading up on it after an article was written comparing it to Brock vs. Cena at Summerslam, I'm pretty sure there was a time where Vader was a marked man for that.
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Post by paperbackhero on Dec 16, 2015 16:57:50 GMT -5
Heels are generally supposed to lose feuds though. Guys like Bret and Taker would gladly lose a match to a lesser, in order to win the feud in the end. Only self sacrificing for a purpose. Lose one match on tv...then beat them cleanly around the horn on house shows and in the blow off. I got no problem with it...makes the feud seem competitive...like honestly...you think a company wants to put Kozlov or Pierre on top? Generally yeah, this thread is for examples that go beyond that. My one was HBK v Bulldog, didn't matter who was face or heel, HBK won every time. DDP v Taker, yeah you'd expect Taker to win in the end, but he no sold everything, completely dominated DDP in every match, singles, tag, everything to the point his wife pinned him, that's going a little beyond the face should win. Yup. DDP needed to be humbled. Always thought it was odd. Also...I made the thread...I know what it's supposed to be about.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 16, 2015 16:59:51 GMT -5
Always seemed like HHH constantly beat Owen Hart.
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Post by evenbroddt on Dec 16, 2015 18:01:38 GMT -5
A few more come to mind
Foley doing everything in his power to get Hunter over.
Miz seemingly always being Cena's bitch save for WM 27 where he took advantage of the situation with Rocky.
Jimmy Rave always beat Punk until the cage match
And of course the most recent, EC3 and Spud
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 16, 2015 19:27:47 GMT -5
WWF vs. WCW during the Invasion. Yep. Until they got the big kids (i.e. Austin, Angle) to help them out! About DDP...paranoia was at an all-time high at this time, so anything the WCW castoffs they'd find fault in I'm sure. If DDP DIDN'T hug Vince, someone would claim he had an attitude, I'm sure. And Dreamer vs. Raven I agree on, and they used it in the story well. I must dig into my library of obscure wrestling facts and say that he DID pin Raven officially before 1997. Only it was a house show just 2-3 months into Raven's debut. Going back to old school WWF midcard...did Hercules ever beat DiBiase?
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Post by lws on Dec 16, 2015 19:57:14 GMT -5
wcw vs. nwo, focal point for about three years of tv, and wcw had about 3 whole wins that entire time
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Post by Starshine on Dec 16, 2015 20:48:20 GMT -5
Triple H and Orton always semed to go Trips' way. Even though Orton won their last match (IIRC) at GAB '09, Trips was the guy standing tall at the end.
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Dec 16, 2015 20:51:44 GMT -5
A few more come to mind Miz seemingly always being Cena's bitch save for WM 27 where he took advantage of the situation with Rocky. What WWE were you watching during that time? Miz left Cena laid out a couple of times and actually looked pretty damn good during that feud leading up to 27. Granted, he looked like crap AT 27, but still...
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Post by evenbroddt on Dec 16, 2015 20:57:59 GMT -5
A few more come to mind Miz seemingly always being Cena's bitch save for WM 27 where he took advantage of the situation with Rocky. What WWE were you watching during that time? Miz left Cena laid out a couple of times and actually looked pretty damn good during that feud leading up to 27. Granted, he looked like crap AT 27, but still... I'm strictly talking about their matches,from their 09 squash to Cena making Mix quit at over the limit or whatever ppv it was. I didn't catch Raw much so maybe Mix got a few beatdowns in with Alex Riley?
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Post by radiantsilvergun on Dec 17, 2015 0:47:16 GMT -5
According to Chris Kanyon, in his rf shoot, it wasn't so much that Taker was vindictive, but Vince had it out for DDP. Apparently when they first met, Dallas hugged Vince, and that pissed him off, the angle where Austin kept hugging Vince was based on DDP. Also according to Kanyon, DDP had a habit of writing his whole match in paper, kinda like a script, that also pissed McMahon. Yeah, I'm not sure a guy who had been calling for his streak to end years before it did, and actually put over Khali and Kozlov clean as a sheet, is all that petty or vindictive about his spot. Nah, Undertaker really was a huge douche during that 1999-early 00's period according to a few accounts. The DDP thing, getting Mike Awesome fired, pushing for Rock to get removed from the WM15 main event to name a few. Lesnar/Taker and HHH/Umaga are some that come to mind instantly. HHH/Umaga was hilariously bad/sad in how many times Umaga jobbed.
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Post by 4real on Dec 17, 2015 6:44:14 GMT -5
Ambrose v Wyatt seemed very one sided in Wyatt's favour.
Ambrose beat him on Tribute To The Troops or something I think that was about it.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 17, 2015 6:57:03 GMT -5
What WWE were you watching during that time? Miz left Cena laid out a couple of times and actually looked pretty damn good during that feud leading up to 27. Granted, he looked like crap AT 27, but still... I'm strictly talking about their matches,from their 09 squash to Cena making Mix quit at over the limit or whatever ppv it was. I didn't catch Raw much so maybe Mix got a few beatdowns in with Alex Riley? Leading upto Mania Miz pretty much left Cena laying on a weekly basis.
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Post by CeilingFan on Dec 17, 2015 7:12:29 GMT -5
Martel vs. Santana...I can't remember Tito getting one win. Dusty Rhodes vs. Ted DiBiase (Dusty even lost to VIRGIL. In 30 seconds.) Vince McMahon vs. WWE character Eric Bischoff PWS vs. fans who know that there's a-holes on the roster while no one else recognizes it.
Santana defeated Martel at King Of The Ring 1989 (it was not televised)
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Post by warriorthug4edge on Dec 17, 2015 17:51:37 GMT -5
Cena vs. the Odds
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Post by SAJ Forth on Dec 17, 2015 18:28:21 GMT -5
Triple-H vs. Booker seems like a good example. Triple-H make fun of Booker all that time, and STILL wins.
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Post by Renslayer on Dec 17, 2015 20:50:09 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not sure a guy who had been calling for his streak to end years before it did, and actually put over Khali and Kozlov clean as a sheet, is all that petty or vindictive about his spot. Nah, Undertaker really was a huge douche during that 1999-early 00's period according to a few accounts. The DDP thing, getting Mike Awesome fired, pushing for Rock to get removed from the WM15 main event to name a few.Lesnar/Taker and HHH/Umaga are some that come to mind instantly. HHH/Umaga was hilariously bad/sad in how many times Umaga jobbed. Wait, he did what? The f*** is his problem?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 18, 2015 12:06:07 GMT -5
According to Chris Kanyon, in his rf shoot, it wasn't so much that Taker was vindictive, but Vince had it out for DDP. Apparently when they first met, Dallas hugged Vince, and that pissed him off, the angle where Austin kept hugging Vince was based on DDP. Also according to Kanyon, DDP had a habit of writing his whole match in paper, kinda like a script, that also pissed McMahon. Yeah, I'm not sure a guy who had been calling for his streak to end years before it did, and actually put over Khali and Kozlov clean as a sheet, is all that petty or vindictive about his spot. To be fair, there are a lot of rumours that around this time period, Taker was refusing to job to anyone at every opportunity. I think wrestlers can mature over their career once they feel they've proved everything; compare it to Triple H, for example, who has spent the last three years putting over basically everyone, even people he beats; something he hasn't done since 2000.
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Post by Main Eventer on Dec 18, 2015 13:09:04 GMT -5
Nah, Undertaker really was a huge douche during that 1999-early 00's period according to a few accounts. The DDP thing, getting Mike Awesome fired, pushing for Rock to get removed from the WM15 main event to name a few.Lesnar/Taker and HHH/Umaga are some that come to mind instantly. HHH/Umaga was hilariously bad/sad in how many times Umaga jobbed. Wait, he did what? The f*** is his problem? I thought it was HBK who wanted The Rock out of the main event.
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