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Post by héad.casé on Dec 17, 2015 16:40:39 GMT -5
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Post by chrom on Dec 17, 2015 16:42:50 GMT -5
"This was a similar approach to the debut of Impact on Monday nights in 2010."
So that means The Return of The Nasty Boys, Sean Morley, and Orlando Jordan
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 16:44:17 GMT -5
So they take the money they've been building up over the past few months of not having any operating costs, go blow it all at once, then wind up unable to play POP when they wind up not making anywhere near enough ad money to keep them running. Brilliant!
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 17, 2015 16:46:03 GMT -5
Yeah and I want to marry Alexa Bliss but we don't always get what we want.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 16:47:47 GMT -5
TNA will never be able to draw money. Ever. They only live because Bob Ryder funnels money to them.
Biggest proof has to be Jeff Hardy coming in at the helm when he very well could have been the successor to Cena and...nothing changed. Hulk Hogan, the biggest name in wrestling, barely moved the needle.
Naming your company TNA was a shot in the foot in the first place.
And why would anyone who has a deal with NJPW want to work with TNA? ROH and NJPW have an agreement, and ROH is a better choice anyways.
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Post by lionheart21 on Dec 17, 2015 16:49:01 GMT -5
I've never run a wrestling business, or any sort of business, but I'm pretty sure that I could do a better job of running this company nowadays than the people currently running TNA.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 17:04:11 GMT -5
It'll be pretty hilarious if they blow all their money on the first episode, and it's revealed that their surprise names include Crimson, Matt Morgan, Hernandez (yes, yet again), Homicide, and Bill DeMott.
What is often frustrating about TNA, and I'll mention this on the POP thread, is that when they are in this situation, the solution is always "Let's spend as much money as possible and make the show aesthetically different" as opposed to "Let's spend as much time as possible to make the show fundamentally different". They are always reaching for the quick fix, and it's that type of stuff that makes you get worse as a product, because you start grasping at straws.
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Post by chrom on Dec 17, 2015 17:07:59 GMT -5
It'll be pretty hilarious if they blow all their money on the first episode, and it's revealed that their surprise names include Crimson, Matt Morgan, Hernandez (yes, yet again), Homicide, and Bill DeMott. What is often frustrating about TNA, and I'll mention this on the POP thread, is that when they are in this situation, the solution is always "Let's spend as much money as possible and make the show aesthetically different" as opposed to "Let's spend as much time as possible to make the show fundamentally different". They are always reaching for the quick fix, and it's that type of stuff that makes you get worse as a product, because you start grasping at straws. That's them in a nutshell, they always go for a get rich quick scheme that blows up in their faces and this will be the same result Who wants to wager that Dreamer shows up?
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 17, 2015 18:49:35 GMT -5
Ian Rotten got a better Q factor than TNA. TNA wants top flight talent but those people like to get paid regularly for their efforts and work for a company with a future. Aim lower, TNA. You might get a couple of diamond in the rough on the cheap. But that would require TNA to scout for talent instead of watching only ROH and WWE which they won't do even when they had the money to spend.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Dec 17, 2015 19:16:58 GMT -5
This isn't gonna end well for them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 19:23:36 GMT -5
Dixie: We at TNA want a former WWE wrestler with attitude. He's edgy, he's "in your face." You've heard the expression, "let's get busy"? Well, this is a wrestler who gets "biz-zay!" Consistently and thoroughly
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Post by Emmet Russell on Dec 17, 2015 19:26:19 GMT -5
Surprises are only ever good for a quick boost in interest, never a long-term solution, which is something TNA should be looking into. The place they really need to make changes is in the office and the look, feel of the product itself: the show feels completely dead. I watch TNA and I see no life in the product at all. And I can't imagine new fans tuning in and staying around for long when the show looks like the undead mock it for how deceased it looks.
Maybe they should go the way of Lucha Underground: make the show a proper TV show. They already do stupid things like Mickie James being pushed onto train tracks, so why not go full-bore insanity? The train track story would work a lot better on a show like Lucha Underground, because of the way it's presented, while in TNA it looks cheap, trashy, and it takes you out of the show because it's presented as a serious sports-type event.
It could really help them to go that path, because you could also make the best out of guys like Abyss - he could actually use Janice for a change and kill characters off. EY could be legitimately insane. There's so much more you could do in a Lucha Underground-style TV presentation.
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Post by chrom on Dec 17, 2015 19:43:43 GMT -5
Surprises are only ever good for a quick boost in interest, never a long-term solution, which is something TNA should be looking into. The place they really need to make changes is in the office and the look, feel of the product itself: the show feels completely dead. I watch TNA and I see no life in the product at all. And I can't imagine new fans tuning in and staying around for long when the show looks like the undead mock it for how deceased it looks. Maybe they should go the way of Lucha Underground: make the show a proper TV show. They already do stupid things like Mickie James being pushed onto train tracks, so why not go full-bore insanity? The train track story would work a lot better on a show like Lucha Underground, because of the way it's presented, while in TNA it looks cheap, trashy, and it takes you out of the show because it's presented as a serious sports-type event. It could really help them to go that path, because you could also make the best out of guys like Abyss - he could actually use Janice for a change and kill characters off. EY could be legitimately insane. There's so much more you could do in a Lucha Underground-style TV presentation. The thing is, Lucha Underground is being run and ran by guys who have wrestling in their blood and know how to connect with an audience getting them invested with the characters, matches and writing and have a guy at the helm, Mark Burnell, who has more Emmy's than he can count. Whilst TNA has a crew I wouldn't trust putting on a Sock Puppet show.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Dec 17, 2015 19:46:30 GMT -5
Surprises are only ever good for a quick boost in interest, never a long-term solution, which is something TNA should be looking into. The place they really need to make changes is in the office and the look, feel of the product itself: the show feels completely dead. I watch TNA and I see no life in the product at all. And I can't imagine new fans tuning in and staying around for long when the show looks like the undead mock it for how deceased it looks. Maybe they should go the way of Lucha Underground: make the show a proper TV show. They already do stupid things like Mickie James being pushed onto train tracks, so why not go full-bore insanity? The train track story would work a lot better on a show like Lucha Underground, because of the way it's presented, while in TNA it looks cheap, trashy, and it takes you out of the show because it's presented as a serious sports-type event. It could really help them to go that path, because you could also make the best out of guys like Abyss - he could actually use Janice for a change and kill characters off. EY could be legitimately insane. There's so much more you could do in a Lucha Underground-style TV presentation. The thing is, Lucha Underground is being run and ran by guys who have wrestling in their blood and know how to connect with an audience getting them invested with the characters, matches and writing and have a guy at the helm, Mark Burnell, who has more Emmy's than he can count. Whilst TNA has a crew I wouldn't trust putting on a Sock Puppet show. That's why TNA needs to get rid of the people backstage, get some fresh faces with fresh ideas. Hire people who know how to write a TV show, who also like wrestling.
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Post by Just call me D.j.m. on Dec 17, 2015 20:03:50 GMT -5
The long overdue main event run for D-Ray 3000 is imminent.
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Post by moondoggie on Dec 17, 2015 20:30:39 GMT -5
In all honesty what person in their right mind would drop everything to work for TNA?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 21:21:10 GMT -5
In all honesty what person in their right mind would drop everything to work for TNA?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 21:22:20 GMT -5
The thing is, Lucha Underground is being run and ran by guys who have wrestling in their blood and know how to connect with an audience getting them invested with the characters, matches and writing and have a guy at the helm, Mark Burnell, who has more Emmy's than he can count. Whilst TNA has a crew I wouldn't trust putting on a Sock Puppet show. That's why TNA needs to get rid of the people backstage, get some fresh faces with fresh ideas. Hire people who know how to write a TV show, who also like wrestling. Yeah, but a lot of those people have suckered their way into TNA, and Dixie Carter is very sentimental about people that have been in the wrestling business for a long time. Particularly the bad ones, because they somehow convinced her pea-sized brain that they are a wealth of wrestling knowledge and have been successful for a long time. After all, in 2010, she could've hired Paul Heyman, but sided with the old dudes that burned her, and Vince Russo, would would eventually burn her... and be forgiven by Dixie.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 17, 2015 21:28:03 GMT -5
I've also been told that Dixie wants a feast. Specifically, a bean feast. Additionally, cream buns and doughnuts, and fruitcake (with no nuts), so good you could go nuts.
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Post by Juice on Dec 17, 2015 22:22:44 GMT -5
The long overdue main event run for D-Ray 3000 is imminent. That's the kind of stuff that would bring me back actually.
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