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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Dec 19, 2015 13:34:28 GMT -5
Please pick your answers and discuss below
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Dec 19, 2015 18:42:03 GMT -5
I'd say yes, but it's not a big deal. It might even help some of the players on lower ranked schools a chance in the lower rounds of the draft,free agency, or even other leagues like the CFL or AFL.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 19, 2015 18:44:28 GMT -5
Have we had the Tidy Bowl Bowl yet? No until then.
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 19, 2015 20:29:21 GMT -5
I won't rest until they make the Toilet Bowl where two zero win teams play eachother to get that elusive victory to end the year!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 12:00:00 GMT -5
I won't rest until they make the Toilet Bowl where two zero win teams play eachother to get that elusive victory to end the year! Does the Old Oaken Bucket double as a chamber pot? Because there have been years where Purdue vs. Indiana was exactly that, the two crappiest teams in the nation just happened to be within a 90 minute drive of each other. I picked the last option, but that is college football's problem, not mine. I only watch the Rose Bowl (if it has the classic Big Ten vs. Pac-12 format), the Cotton Bowl (old-school SWC represent y0), and bowls where a team I like is involved. (Wisconsin, Northwestern...namely certain Big Ten teams.)
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 20, 2015 12:51:17 GMT -5
Eh, not really. It's just a nice reward for some teams, even if the games themselves are largely meaningless. It's nice to have the option to watch two teams I might not see all year if I choose to do it. That's rare, but it's still nice to have the chance.
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 20, 2015 12:59:25 GMT -5
Depends on the year and how willing the bowl games are to put in small-conference schools.
Using this year for example- even if there's 5-7 teams making a bowl, at least EVERY school that had a winning record in the BCS went to a bowl, so it's perfectly fine.
If there was something like "a 6-6 or 5-7 Big 5 conference team goes to a small bowl but a 8-4 or 9-3 team from one of the small BCS conferences did not" (which happened a lot beforehand), THEN there's more of a problem than "too many bowls".
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Dec 20, 2015 14:12:31 GMT -5
Its the new NIT. That said, San Jose State and Nebraska shouldn't be in bowls, UCLA, Colorado State, and Nevada got jobbed this bowl year.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Dec 20, 2015 14:22:26 GMT -5
As a Nebraska fan, when we're 5-7 and we make a bowl game, then yes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 20:59:50 GMT -5
Yes, but if you support a crap program like I do, you appreciate whichever one you go to.
BTW, looking forward to next week's Pinstripe Bowl.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 21:00:57 GMT -5
I won't rest until they make the Toilet Bowl where two zero win teams play eachother to get that elusive victory to end the year! It's Eastern Michigan vs. New Mexico State, year after freaking year!
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Post by Citizen Grimm on Dec 20, 2015 21:47:08 GMT -5
Way too many, but it doesn't hurt anybody so whatever.
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Post by ICBM on Dec 21, 2015 6:51:57 GMT -5
I agree that there are way too many but it doesn't hurt anybody.
Lower tier schools get a tv slot Rewards players (I hear the experience is a blast) 15 extra practices Intriguing match ups for the most part. We got the holy war again even though it was not terribly good and one day....one day Texas A&M will play Texas in a bowl
The Negatives Some schools take on big debt just to go Some of the games just don't matter and nobody watches (I watched app st v Ohio bc I was starved for CFB, most yrs I wouldnt get up to grab the remote for a game like that) Sponsorship naming rights has belittled the games (taxslayer.com bowl? Really?)
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Post by ICBM on Dec 21, 2015 6:53:01 GMT -5
^despite those reasons everyone involved is a willing participant. Hence my saying it doesn't hurt anybody
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Dec 21, 2015 7:03:19 GMT -5
Its the new NIT. That said, San Jose State and Nebraska shouldn't be in bowls, UCLA, Colorado State, and Nevada got jobbed this bowl year. Getting in the NIT Tournament in College Basketball is much harder. There are 351 Div 1 basketball schools and 100 make the NIT or NCAA Tournament. Outside of a team from one of the top 3-4 conferences getting in the NIT is actually a strong achievement for the year. Whereas with Div 1 football 74 out of 128 Div 1 schools will play a bowl.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Dec 21, 2015 10:46:35 GMT -5
Its the new NIT. That said, San Jose State and Nebraska shouldn't be in bowls, UCLA, Colorado State, and Nevada got jobbed this bowl year. Getting in the NIT Tournament in College Basketball is much harder. There are 351 Div 1 basketball schools and 100 make the NIT or NCAA Tournament. Outside of a team from one of the top 3-4 conferences getting in the NIT is actually a strong achievement for the year. Whereas with Div 1 football 74 out of 128 Div 1 schools will play a bowl. Ok, there is also the CBI and the other tournament too. Lump those in together. I'd propose if we ever reach more than 4 teams in a playoff that you have the bowls be played in between games and have it that the bowls are allowed to invite anyone they want provided they meet a criteria. I'd keep: Rose, Sugar, Fiesta, Orange, Cotton, Peach, Sun, Gator, Citrus, Liberty, Independence, Holiday, Outback, Cactus, Russell Athletic, Las Vegas, Alamo, Potato, Foster Farms, Hawaii, Belk, Texas, Military, Pinstripe, Heart of Dallas, and Bahamas. Set the selection by a tier system. Tier-1: Rose, Sugar, Fiesta, Orange, Cotton, and Peach Tier-2: Sun, Gator, Citrus, Liberty, Holiday, and Outback Tier-3: Independence, Russell Athletic, Las Vegas, Alamo, Foster Farms, Hawaii Tier-4: Potato, Belk, Texas, Military, Pinstripe, Heart of Dallas, Bahamas The rules would be that you'd have to be above .500 in records. With the 4 team playoff, you'd have 52 teams eligible for bowls, that can increase to 64 if the playoffs were to go to 16. Conference Champions would automatically qualify. If there aren't enough spots to fill, you go by APR and Strength of Schedule. My dream scenario is a 16 team playoff beginning in the first week of December. The first tier of bowls will be played in prime time in the 6 days between games. It would be set up like this using our calendar this month: December 5th: 11am: Playoff Game 1 12pm: Playoff Game 2 1pm: Playoff Game 3 2:30pm Playoff Game 4 3:30pm Playoff Game 5 4:30pm Playoff Game 6 7:00pm Playoff Game 7 9:00pm Playoff Game 8 December 6th:Potato Bowl 8pm December 7th:Heart of Dallas Bowl 8pm December 8th:Military Bowl December 9th:Texas Bowl December 10th:Bahamas Bowl December 11th:Belk Bowl December 12th: 12pm: Playoff Game 1 3:30pm: Playoff Game 2 5:30pm: Playoff Game 3 8pm: Playoff Game 4 December 13th:Independence Bowl December 14th:Russell Athletic Bowl December 15th:Alamo Bowl December 16th:Hawaii Bowl December 17th:Las Vegas Bowl December 18th:Foster Farms Bowl December 19th: 4pm: Semifinal 8pm: Semifinal December 20th:Liberty Bowl December 21st:Alamo Bowl December 22nd:Sun Bowl December 23rd:Outback Bowl December 28th:Citrus Bowl December 29th:Gator Bowl December 30th:Peach Bowl December 31st: 11am:Cotton Bowl 12pm:Orange Bowl 1pm:Sugar Bowl 4:30pm:Rose Bowl 8pm:Fiesta Bowl January 1st:National Title Game 5pm
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Post by Cyno on Dec 21, 2015 11:35:21 GMT -5
From a sports fan's perspective? Probably. From a business perspective? Absolutely not.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Dec 21, 2015 11:42:03 GMT -5
I don't care about how many bowl games, but when teams or coaches tout that they are "15-10 in bowl games!", it gets ridiculous.
Winning the KFC $5 Fill-Up Bowl when you were 6-6 means nothing to me.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 21, 2015 20:25:05 GMT -5
Another reason why I love the playoff system: it shows you which bowl games really matter and which don't. The ones in the rotation for the playoff game (Rose, Orange, Sugar, Cotton, etc.) definitely mean something. Games like the Jimmy Johns Brock Lesnar Conquered The Streak Bowl really don't.
Though I do like the Pinstripe Bowl because there's something neat about watching football played in Yankee Stadium.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Dec 22, 2015 1:36:41 GMT -5
Yes, but whatever. I only will watch one or two. I might even watch the Pinstripe Bowl. I was unaware the new stadium was even designed for a football setup, but it's a bowl game after a drought for my alma mater.
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