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Post by 111111 on Dec 24, 2015 6:15:08 GMT -5
I mainly play games on pc and other than nintendo consoles as a supplemental experience would never go back to an xbox or playstation as games are cheaper on pc, there is much more choice, no online subscription to pay for, much more customisation, higher resolution and higher framerates.
That being said playing games is about having fun, plenty of people are content with consoles and I say power to them, just because consoles aren't for me and pc gaming is doesn't mean I'm going to be an asshat about it, what anyone else plays games on doesn't affect me in the slightest so I'll leave them to it, live and let live and all that.
I am hesitant to call myself a "gamer" as anyone who uses that tag usually seem to be immature manchildren.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Dec 24, 2015 6:17:49 GMT -5
PC Gaming is pointless. Why spend $1000 dollars on something you won't even know will work when you can just get an XBox One for half the price? ! That's like, pure sarcasm, right?
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Post by Glitch on Dec 24, 2015 6:38:43 GMT -5
This is a problem? Did I miss when pc fans started riding around in motorcycles, and threatening console players while they swung bats and machetes?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2015 6:51:18 GMT -5
I'm a PC gamer and I find the PC Master Race thing kind of annoying. There's merits to every system around these days, and although I think PC is the best platform, I still like my PS3 and use it to play games that don't work so well on PC.
Play whatever platforms you want, and don't worry too much about what other people think.
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Post by ShaolinHandLock on Dec 24, 2015 7:20:10 GMT -5
This thread is stressing me out too much, I knew making it was a mistake...
I'll leave it for now, and try and enjoy Christmas tomorrow without thinking about it.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 24, 2015 8:23:10 GMT -5
I always thought all these people were being sarcastic or joking Most of them are
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Post by eDemento2099 on Dec 24, 2015 8:31:11 GMT -5
I prefer PC gaming to console gaming, but find the meme in question REALLY obnoxious, immature, and overused. To me, it's like "PWNED" and "FIRST" comments on YouTube, and makes me be ashamed to be the least bit like the jackasses in question.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Dec 24, 2015 8:35:34 GMT -5
PC Gaming is pointless. Why spend $1000 dollars on something you won't even know will work when you can just get an XBox One for half the price? PCs are for porn. Not for games. Get it right, kiddies! There's no need to spend a ton of dough on PC hardware unless you want to run all new games into the foreseeable future on max settings. Instead of plunking $400 down on an Xboner, you can use that same amount of money to build a custom machine that outperforms what any modern console can do. You can run most of the same games, except at much higher resolutions, with more graphic options, free online play, and cheaper software prices via Steam and GOG.
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Dec 24, 2015 8:46:03 GMT -5
I can't fathom letting the opinions of some random internet dweebs affect me in such a way. Do what you want and be happy with it.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 24, 2015 9:15:16 GMT -5
I remember doing the whole "console war" thing back when I was 12 and the N64 and PS were out. Anybody who continues to judge or bully people about it once they're past being a tween needs to reassess things.
It's good to have hobbies, it's good to be passionate about them, but there are areas of life that don't warrant us defining ourselves by them. What platform you choose to game on would be one of them.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Dec 24, 2015 10:25:22 GMT -5
I remember doing the whole "console war" thing back when I was 12 and the N64 and PS were out. Anybody who continues to judge or bully people about it once they're past being a tween needs to reassess things. It's good to have hobbies, it's good to be passionate about them, but there are areas of life that don't warrant us defining ourselves by them. What platform you choose to game on would be one of them. Worst part is people still do that to this day. Even employees who should know better tend to fanboy their favorite console. I sell games for a job, and a few of my coworkers will give you an embarassing diatribe on the subject. Even sillier, every place is different in that aspect. The real answer for which console to get is whichever one all your friends have this generation.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Dec 24, 2015 10:35:42 GMT -5
Tech isn't advancing at such a ridiculous pace as it was in the late 90s/early 2000s where you have to upgrade all the time. For instance, my coworker was just talking to me Monday about how the age of his system was finally getting to him running Ark. It was 6 years old, and the only thing out of date was the video card. To replace that with a 2gb card runs around 120 bucks. Not too bad after 6 years of use, I'd think. Ram and processors aren't getting huge technical leaps that require you to replace them over and over which used to be the biggest source of creep there. At this point it's mostly just getting a new video card after a few years. To be fair, to assume that everyone has the money to have a computer, period, is kind of a classist assumption, the softest version towards which FinalBeyond alludes. A 2013 US census document indicates that 83.8% of the U.S. population owned a computer. Presumably, 16.2% of the population doesn't own a computer? The census also brings together other variables that could impact computer ownership (or suggest ways in which computer use can be explained): age, gender, geography, education, ability, etc. To say nothing about issues like how developing countries often become the sites in which developed countries' e-waste, like the conspicuous consumption of newer, high performing PC components, be they obsolescent or otherwise, are dumped. Less developed countries actually have more PC gamers because consoles are a luxury, actually. In places you can't afford that kind of thing, people tend to play at PC cafes. South America and Southeast Asia in particular are like that. That's part of why free to play games have taken off so well. That and most of them can be run on 10 year old computers. And in the US, people who don't have PCs generally fall into the category of quite old or incredibly rural. There's always the random outlier, but if you were to ask 10000 people if they have a computer, it's generally just the few people who've spent no time around them who don't.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Dec 24, 2015 10:49:52 GMT -5
Well I did regret making this thread right after I posted it, but it seems to have gone better than expected. I always thought all these people were being sarcastic or joking Well I know for a fact that the whole 'PC Master Race' thing did start as a joke, but somewhere along the line people started saying it completely seriously, and that's what bothers me. Really dude, you need to stop letting weird internet identity politics affect your life and be comfortable with who you are and how you get your happiness. There's nothing wrong with playing stuff on consoles. There's tons of games, especially retro ones that don't have releases elsewhere, so why would you not want to play them? With multiplayer games in particular, you generally want to play on whatever service all your friends are on, rather than the best possible platform anyways. But it IS objectively worse. You're limited on peripherals, you don't have backwards compatibility, games are more expensive, WAY less games come out, you can't upgrade the console, the graphics are frequently limited comparatively, lack of modding, you don't have to pay for the ability to play on the internet, and consoles have a limited shelf life. With the rise of services like Steam and GOG, PC gaming is as accessible as its ever been. On your first point, as I've said many times on these forums, I have no self esteem and I've never been comfortable with myself in any way. And on your third point, let me explain why none of that stuff applies to me: 'You're limited on peripherals' - Well I don't need them. 'you don't have backwards compatibility' - I don't need it, I have all the consoles. 'games are more expensive' - Okay...first of all, I only buy physical media as I stated earlier, so I don't care if they are cheaper on PC, for my collecting purposes I want the physical product, even if it's more expensive. Secondly, I live in Australia, and games are more expensive here in general. And finally, I rarely, if ever, pay full price for games. I either shop around and find the cheapest stores, or I wait for them to end up in the clearance sections of stores. And theres also used games from second hand shops as well. 'You can't upgrade the console' - So what? That's actually one of the things I like about consoles the most, they're a self-contained thing which stays a self contained thing, and I like that. 'The graphics are frequently limited comparatively' - This one I don't care about. I'm fine with console graphics. 'lack of modding' - I don't do/am not interested in modding anyway. 'You don't have to pay for the ability to play on the internet' - I don't play games on the internet anyway. I'm a solo gamer. 'consoles have a limited shelf life' - And this one I don't get at all. I have a very big collection of consoles, they all work perfectly fine (except for my original NES, but I also have a toploader model). And if you mean 'shelf life' in the sense of new game releases, well that doesn't matter either...it's not like the games suddenly disappear from existence, all that happens is that they end up becoming 'retro' games and in the second-hand shops and eBay. Either way, I don't understand what you meant here. 'With the rise of services like Steam and GOG...' - Again, I'm physical media only. As I said before, the collecting aspect is something that I like just as much as playing the actual games, and if I did the whole digital downloads thing it would ruin that experience. So those are just some of the reasons why I prefer console gaming over PC gaming, and why console gaming suits me better personally. If you find PC gaming much better, then that's perfectly fine, I have no problem with that. But I just prefer console gaming and collecting. And again, it bares repeating, I personally don't see how PC gaming, being digital-only these days, could be 'objectively better', as it completely ruins the physical collection hobby aspect of gaming that I've had since I was so young. But that's just me though, I realise not everybody is interested in collecting, but still. Steam is actually totally for the game collector. I won't lie, I probably own around 200 games just on Steam I've never spent any real time in. Thanks to digital delivery on both consoles and PC, you can get things you wouldn't be able to find without having to pay rediculous prices or go through a depressing amount of effort. No more having to shell out 100 bucks for an ATLUS title because it was short printed as always and your local stores just didn't get shipped it. No more having to hunt flea markets for a 15 year old PC copy. Almost any game you want is a few clicks and a download away.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Dec 24, 2015 10:53:30 GMT -5
Never once heard of this master race nonsense. What a stressful thread.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 24, 2015 10:53:55 GMT -5
It took me a paragraph to realize you weren't talking about an actual game called Master Race.
I had never heard of gamer 'factions' like this.
It's like the Sharks and the Jets, only nerdier.
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Post by Danimal on Dec 24, 2015 10:56:15 GMT -5
Thinking you're better than someone else because you pretend to be a wizard battling trolls on a PC rather than a console makes you a master dipshit. The shit people will act superior over never ceases to amaze me.
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Post by Psy on Dec 24, 2015 11:00:11 GMT -5
I've seen far more console elitists than PC "master race" elitists. That said, I honestly don't care. People are going to be dicks, just have to shrug it off because when it comes right down to it what does their opinion really matter? Who are they to me/you?
I remember going in to Gamestop a few years ago some time ago and asking if they had a copy of Hellgate:London. They actually tried talking me out of it and into something else, I think it was Bioshock, for the X360. I told him I wasn't interested in anything for the 360, I just wanted Hellgate to play with a friend that moved out and went to college. I didn't even have an Xbox 360. At this point he tried to sell me an Xbox 360. I had to ask to see the manager to get him to shut the f*** up and just let me buy the game I drove out there to get. This whole time there are other people in the store kind of laughing because I don't have/don't want an Xbox 360. I remember this specifically because it was an example of really terrible customer service. The opinions of the peanut gallery have no bearing on my life. I wouldn't remember it except for the awful customer service it was attached to.
There are always going to be elitists in any measure of fandom. Movies, Television, Anime, Video Gaming, Sports, and individual examples of each genre/medium. When people have to stand on a soapbox and let you know why they're better than you... remind yourself that they really don't f***ing matter and in all likelihood never will.
Today I have a PC. I don't have any consoles. I don't want any consoles... but that doesn't mean I look down on people that do have/do want them. Play what you enjoy, and I hope it brings you joy. Just about the only "PC Master Race" argument that holds up to me is the advantage of modding games like Skyrim. It really is like a different game after mods. Well, and X-Com. The Long War is just phenomenal. But yeah... there's something to be said for being able to go to the store and buy a game for a system and know it's going to work.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2015 11:01:10 GMT -5
...where do you have to go to find these f***ing idiots?
Where ever it is, just don't. go there.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 24, 2015 11:09:47 GMT -5
I legitimately wouldn't know how to respond to someone acting 'superior' because they preferred their form of entertainment product.
Wouldn't be angry, or insulted, more just confused. At best, I'd manage an: "....ok?"
In short, enjoy what ya enjoy. Don't get caught up in silly arguments for grown men to have.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 24, 2015 11:28:00 GMT -5
I'm mostly a PC gamer these days, mainly because I can do so much on my PC besides game and it's a bit cheaper to upgrade to a good enough video card or put in a couple of new RAM sticks over buying a new console for near identical or better performace. But I still play games on my 360 often enough. And I do want to get a PS4 and an Xbox One eventually.
I never saw the point of willingly denying yourself great gaming experiences over faux elitist loyalty to a type of gaming platform.
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