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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2015 16:11:50 GMT -5
The last weekend of the calendar year usually produced WCW's grand daddy of them all. What are your Starrcade memories?
I still vividly remember 1997 and 1998 just for the back-to-back screwjob endings.
It was always nice to have a PPV on the last weekend of the year to end it with a bang.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Dec 26, 2015 17:32:24 GMT -5
I'm missing WCW in general.
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Post by willywonka666 on Dec 26, 2015 22:34:16 GMT -5
The first wrestling tape I ever bought was Starrcade 87-still one of my favorite events.
I still don't know why my friends and I didn't try to go to Starrcade 96 when it was in Nashville
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Post by evenbroddt on Dec 27, 2015 0:28:07 GMT -5
The last weekend of the calendar year usually produced WCW's grand daddy of them all. What are your Starrcade memories? I still vividly remember 1997 and 1998 just for the back-to-back screwjob endings. It was always nice to have a PPV on the last weekend of the year to end it with a bang. 96 had the bait and switch nontitle main event 97 had the whole overbooking mess 98 had the streak end by interference 99 had the Montreal Screwjob ending That's four years... WCW's equivalent to Wrestlemania everybody
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2015 2:25:07 GMT -5
I would love WCW back
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Post by Racksman on Dec 27, 2015 3:32:52 GMT -5
No, because it was never even close to being built or booked properly past '85. '86 if we're being generous.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Dec 27, 2015 9:28:03 GMT -5
The last weekend of the calendar year usually produced WCW's grand daddy of them all. What are your Starrcade memories? I still vividly remember 1997 and 1998 just for the back-to-back screwjob endings. It was always nice to have a PPV on the last weekend of the year to end it with a bang. 96 had the bait and switch nontitle main event 97 had the whole overbooking mess 98 had the streak end by interference 99 had the Montreal Screwjob ending That's four years... WCW's equivalent to Wrestlemania everybody This is true, but Starrcade was WCW's Wrestlemania in claim only. In the Bischoff years, Halloween Havoc (in Vegas with the Slim Jims/Snickers sponsorship) always always had a much more stacked card than Starrcade - especially in 95, 96, & 98. And in many of those years, they would book SuperBrawl bigger than Starrcade too to actually compete with Wrestlemania. The under cards in most of the Bischoff era Starrcade's are much weaker than HH or SB. As it relates to the OP, yes I miss Starrcade. I miss WCW as a whole and their PPV calendar. It was such a perfect compliment to the WWF's calendar. Think about it, if you bought one PPV a month, you could go: Royal Rumble, SuperBrawl, Wrestlemania, Pick em in April (In Your House or Spring Stampede), Slamboree, King of the Ring, Bash at the Beach, Summerslam, Fall Brawl/WarGames, Halloween Havoc, Survivor Series, Starrcade. That's some action right there.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2015 11:33:34 GMT -5
In 2015 I'd pay American dollars to see Hulk Hogan vs The Butcher.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Dec 27, 2015 12:31:43 GMT -5
The last weekend of the calendar year usually produced WCW's grand daddy of them all. What are your Starrcade memories? I still vividly remember 1997 and 1998 just for the back-to-back screwjob endings. It was always nice to have a PPV on the last weekend of the year to end it with a bang. 96 had the bait and switch nontitle main event 97 had the whole overbooking mess 98 had the streak end by interference 99 had the Montreal Screwjob ending That's four years... WCW's equivalent to Wrestlemania everybody You say that like Mania never had questionable booking.
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Post by Beebs is the Final Girl on Dec 27, 2015 20:57:24 GMT -5
I preferred my StarrCade as the Thanksgiving tradition. Didn't feel right in December
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Post by MrElijah on Dec 28, 2015 11:32:25 GMT -5
We all miss the mothership.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Dec 28, 2015 12:17:44 GMT -5
As an aside because her or in some other thread the whole if WCW was so good why did it go under argument will be made. And that's a fair point. Taking aside the corporate reason for WCW folding the promotion was pretty damn awful from the fall of 1999-the end. But pre-Russo even when it was shitty at least it was shitty in a different way then WWE. Raw & Nitro had different feels. Both could be good, both could be bad, but neither was the same as the other. Now all we have is WWE or WWE Lite.
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Post by Tony Schiavontay on Dec 28, 2015 12:46:50 GMT -5
We all miss DA MUDDASHEEEIP IF YOU WEEEEL.
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Post by domrep on Dec 28, 2015 14:35:06 GMT -5
The last weekend of the calendar year usually produced WCW's grand daddy of them all. What are your Starrcade memories? I still vividly remember 1997 and 1998 just for the back-to-back screwjob endings. It was always nice to have a PPV on the last weekend of the year to end it with a bang. 96 had the bait and switch nontitle main event 97 had the whole overbooking mess 98 had the streak end by interference 99 had the Montreal Screwjob ending That's four years... WCW's equivalent to Wrestlemania everybody Always read this about 1996, watching the Nitros and the buildup, not once was it mentioned the belt was on the line.
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Dec 30, 2015 2:38:49 GMT -5
96 had the bait and switch nontitle main event 97 had the whole overbooking mess 98 had the streak end by interference 99 had the Montreal Screwjob ending That's four years... WCW's equivalent to Wrestlemania everybody Always read this about 1996, watching the Nitros and the buildup, not once was it mentioned the belt was on the line. Precisely. They'd already mobilized the Sting storyline, and I distinctly remember the match being billed as non-title headed into the PPV weekend on Dubya See Dubya Satuhday Night, Tony Schiavonne! I also remember the Dusty finish with Savage joining the nWo at Superbrawl. Rose colored glasses for the slow build for Sting. Could have been done worse, but REALLY could have been done better. Hogan dropping the belt to Luger and getting it back in Sturgis cheapened the buildup, and then, ya know, StarrCade '97. Like, I was at Road Wild, and we, the fans, the ones who buy PPVs (but didn't pay gate that day), were baffled by this aside of Flexy Lexy getting the strap, and the celebration on Nitro that SHOULD have been for Sting at StarrCade. Utterly bizarre, and indicative of how it would be cocked up (I'm imitating James May right now) in December. I don't miss that horrible, egos-first-fans-second booking. Miss the undercards, for sure, but the main event scene after the Orange Goblin showed up in '94 was atrocious.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Dec 30, 2015 13:19:39 GMT -5
Always read this about 1996, watching the Nitros and the buildup, not once was it mentioned the belt was on the line. Rose colored glasses for the slow build for Sting. Could have been done worse, but REALLY could have been done better. Hogan dropping the belt to Luger and getting it back in Sturgis cheapened the buildup, and then, ya know, StarrCade '97. Like, I was at Road Wild, and we, the fans, the ones who buy PPVs (but didn't pay gate that day), were baffled by this aside of Flexy Lexy getting the strap, and the celebration on Nitro that SHOULD have been for Sting at StarrCade. Utterly bizarre, and indicative of how it would be cocked up (I'm imitating James May right now) in December. I'm gonna disagree with you here. I see this argument a lot, but I don't feel it's correct. Over the last few years, I have been watching all the of the Nitros in order and it's taken me about as long as it would have had I watched them live. An 18-month build to Sting's redemption sounds good on paper, but it practice, that is 17 pay per views and 65 Nitros that don't give you much to cheer about. The Luger win was awesome, not only back then, but when I revisited. It was like an oasis in the middle of the NWO Sahara Desert. Sting might have been WCW's Batman, but Luger was their Commission Gordon. He was on the ground going up against the NWO every week and fighting them valiantly. He (in character) deserved to have that big blowoff. Then, they f***ed him out of it 5 days later, and it just made you more pissed and ready for Sting to step back in the ring and make things right.
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Post by bigalbass86 AKA Smokin Vokoun on Dec 30, 2015 13:59:41 GMT -5
No, because it was never even close to being built or booked properly past '85. '86 if we're being generous. Nah, I'd say the prime years for Starrcade would be 83 through 88. To me, those shows were built pretty well and they felt like huge events.
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Post by DragonMasterP on Dec 30, 2015 14:05:11 GMT -5
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Dec 30, 2015 14:16:35 GMT -5
Maybe not Starrcade specifically, but I do miss having a big wrestling event in between Christmas and New Year's Eve. Also I miss having a significant wrestling promotion on par with WWE.
As much as we loved Starrcade for being "the granddaddy of them all". I liked when they deviated from this format and experimented with concepts like the WCW vs New Japan World Cup of Wrestling or Lethal Lottery/Battle Bowl.
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Post by Racksman on Dec 30, 2015 14:29:14 GMT -5
No, because it was never even close to being built or booked properly past '85. '86 if we're being generous. Nah, I'd say the prime years for Starrcade would be 83 through 88. To me, those shows were built pretty well and they felt like huge events. That's essentially what I said?
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