No charges in death of Tamir Rice

[Urethra Franklin]

abcnews.go.com/US/prosecutor-make-announcement-tamir-rice-grand-jury-investigation/story?id=35977877

Sadly, this isn't a surprise.

[Cyno]

f***ing racists.

[1 Free Moon-Down with Burger]

Oh f*** off. Ridiculous.

[Deleted]

Every one of these no indictment announcements are the same: these people just making excuse after excuse. They're even going with "he looked older though" UGH.

That said, this could easily be avoided if we weren't so ingrained in thinking guns are cool and making realistic looking replicas. Oh, there's an orange tip that distinguishes it, which will immediately be ripped off by the kid because he wants his fake gun to be cool looking.

Overall, vintage United States.

[ICBM]

Not enough info in the article. I shall be off to read up on it elsewhere and perhaps comment once a bit more education has been gained. See y'all in a bit

[fuzzywarble, squat cobbler]

Here's an idea : how about these kids stop pointing their toy guns at random strangers and making them think that they're about to get shot? Sad that he died, and yes, the cop most likely did react too quickly and should face some punishment, but these kids need to use common sense.

[Urethra Franklin]

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For some reason I can't turn this coverage off, they're showing so much irrelevant stuff to paint Tamir Rice as someone who deserved it. And talking about how they started handling "active shooters"(!) differently after Columbine. what the f*** does this have in common with Columbine?

[Hit Girl]

Dec 28, 2015 14:33:40 GMT -5 fuzzywarble, squat cobbler said:

Here's an idea : how about these kids stop pointing their toy guns at random strangers and making them think that they're about to get shot? Sad that he died, and yes, the cop most likely did react too quickly and should face some punishment, but these kids need to use common sense.

One does question the wisdom of parents allowing a black male child to walk around wielding a somewhat realistic looking toy gun. However he was only 12 years old. When I was that age I didn't know shit, so I can't fault him for having the same lack of judgement. The police shot and killed him within about 5 seconds of arriving. They made no effort whatsoever to deal with the situation peacefully before resorting to instant kill mode. The lack of charges however does not surprise me.

[ICBM]

First off, this is a schitty deal all the way around. A 12 year old boy is dead and shouldn't be.

I don't grasp the instant labeling of "******* racists" by a poster above. Zero mentions of any qualified racist activity by either of the officers in question were made in the article linked in the OP. Not trying to inflame a touchey subject but that was my observation. I also did not find any specific racist actions by the officers in anything else I read about this incident.

They did this in less than two seconds and while I absolutely understand the fluid nature of use of force situations quite well, I still did not read anything that suggested or confirmed that any warnings occurred prior to the rounds being fired. Further neither attempted any first aid whatsoever. Additional responding units did. I got taught very early that if you do anything physical to a suspect, right or wrong you provide care to the extent that safety and your experience allows.

A grand jury reviewed this. Not an internal department board or office. They determined there was not any criminality to the use of force. Got it. But that does zero to makes this right. The kid is just as dead. The officer will live with this the rest of his life. But more unfortunately so will Rice's parents.

[Cyno]

Dec 28, 2015 14:41:36 GMT -5 @lovehater said:

For some reason I can't turn this coverage off, they're showing so much irrelevant stuff to paint Tamir Rice as someone who deserved it. And talking about how they started handling "active shooters"(!) differently after Columbine. what the f*** does this have in common with Columbine?

The biggest difference is most active shooters are white. And if they don't kill themselves, tend to be captured alive. But if it's a black kid? Shoot first, ask questions later.

[BRV]

Dec 28, 2015 14:54:13 GMT -5 ICBM said:

First off, this is a schitty deal all the way around. A 12 year old boy is dead and shouldn't be.

I don't grasp the instant labeling of "******* racists" by a poster above. Zero mentions of any qualified racist activity by either of the officers in question were made in the article linked in the OP. Not trying to inflame a touchey subject but that was my observation. I also did not find any specific racist actions by the officers in anything else I read about this incident.

They did this in less than two seconds and while I absolutely understand the fluid nature of use of force situations quite well, I still did not read anything that suggested or confirmed that any warnings occurred prior to the rounds being fired. Further neither attempted any first aid whatsoever. Additional responding units did. I got taught very early that if you do anything physical to a suspect, right or wrong you provide care to the extent that safety and your experience allows.

A grand jury reviewed this. Not an internal department board or office. They determined there was not any criminality to the use of force. Got it. But that does zero to makes this right. The kid is just as dead. The officer will live with this the rest of his life. But more unfortunately so will Rice's parents.

I just wanted to come in here and tip my cap to you and say thank you. You're a rare breed these days, in that you admitted you did not know much about the case, so you went out of your way to read about it and gather information, then came back later with an informed opinion. Unfortunately, there's not nearly enough of that anymore, it's all about kneejerk reactions to the news of the day, whether it's in online forums or on social media.

[Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast]

Dec 28, 2015 14:41:36 GMT -5 @lovehater said:

For some reason I can't turn this coverage off, they're showing so much irrelevant stuff to paint Tamir Rice as someone who deserved it. And talking about how they started handling "active shooters"(!) differently after Columbine. what the f*** does this have in common with Columbine?

The story reminds me a bit of when kids were being killed in the 80's over the Entertech guns. If you may not know, they were a series of water guns by LJN that looked and sounded like real guns.



I highly doubt Tamir had anything close to this, and even if, the way the cops handled this situation makes it much worse.

[Urethra Franklin]

Dec 28, 2015 14:41:36 GMT -5 @lovehater said:

For some reason I can't turn this coverage off, they're showing so much irrelevant stuff to paint Tamir Rice as someone who deserved it. And talking about how they started handling "active shooters"(!) differently after Columbine. what the f*** does this have in common with Columbine?

When there was the first day of deliberation in the Freddie Gray case, CNN.com featured a story that referred to Gray as "the son of an illiterate heroin addict" as if that were the slightest bit germane to his killing.

Whether it's conscious or not, all too often the media attempts to portray black victims of police violence as "the other" who is somehow deserving of such a fate.

[Bang Bang Bart]

Dec 28, 2015 14:34:56 GMT -5 Urethra Franklin said:

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...and being so trigger-happy to shoot a 12-year old kid isn't "unresponsible and unreasonable"?

f***ing hell, Mr. Prosecutor.

[Cyno]

Dec 28, 2015 15:03:22 GMT -5 Urethra Franklin said:

Dec 28, 2015 14:41:36 GMT -5 @lovehater said:

For some reason I can't turn this coverage off, they're showing so much irrelevant stuff to paint Tamir Rice as someone who deserved it. And talking about how they started handling "active shooters"(!) differently after Columbine. what the f*** does this have in common with Columbine?

When there was the first day of deliberation in the Freddie Gray case, CNN.com featured a story that referred to Gray as "the son of an illiterate heroin addict" as if that were the slightest bit germane to his killing.

Whether it's conscious or not, all too often the media attempts to portray black victims of police violence as "the other" who is somehow deserving of such a fate.

Or Walter Scott, when he was killed running away from a cop who shot him in the back. Media brought up his being behind on his child support payments as if that was somehow a justification for murder. Though at least that cop is actually facing murder charges.

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I can empathize with the policeman who shot Tamir, because I do believe he felt his life was in danger. However, the way they approached him seems completely off (I could be wrong on that), and there's such a pattern of young white cops being scared of black people (they always say 'he looked older and he was really big and he had this look on his face' and whatnot) that I think implicit bias played a big, big part.

[StormanReigns]

The US is the only nation (in the western world) that you can murder someone, and not even face trail.

[Deleted]

Two seconds...

That is all.

[Brandon Walsh is Insane.]

Dec 28, 2015 14:34:56 GMT -5 Urethra Franklin said:

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Well, it would be.