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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Dec 29, 2015 17:19:12 GMT -5
If WWE rigged the results, Roman Reigns would somehow have won Diva of the Year
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Post by paperbackhero on Dec 29, 2015 18:20:44 GMT -5
Voting isn't rigged. There are rules about broadcasting a show in which you solicit your audience to vote. WWE cannot rig the votes, and they would be stupid to rig them. It would be stupid for them to NOT rig it. Vote for a match type by text...Steel Cage is one of the options...they dont even have the cage rig at the event...of course it was going to be a street fight... Every vote is rigged.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Dec 29, 2015 18:23:38 GMT -5
Voting isn't rigged. There are rules about broadcasting a show in which you solicit your audience to vote. WWE cannot rig the votes, and they would be stupid to rig them. It would be stupid for them to NOT rig it. Vote for a match type by text...Steel Cage is one of the options...they dont even have the cage rig at the event...of course it was going to be a street fight... Every vote is rigged. Oh, boy. It would be stupid to have cage match be a voting option when WWE does not have the cage available. It would be stupid to break broadcasting rules/regulations when it comes to viewer voting. The Slammys are an attempt at creating a special show. It's a gimmick. They don't take their fake award show that seriously.
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Post by Clawley Race on Dec 29, 2015 18:29:20 GMT -5
I don't see why people think Neville can't have "less fans" and beat Owens is a 100% legit vote.
Neville's fans are children who probably visit very few sites, and the wrestling web site they visit is WWE.
Owens' fans are busy complaining about how WWE books him on message boards, and spend the rest of our time looking at porn.
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Post by Instant Classic on Dec 29, 2015 18:33:53 GMT -5
He's in mah fav 5.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 18:57:09 GMT -5
I don't see why people think Neville can't have "less fans" and beat Owens is a 100% legit vote. Neville's fans are children who probably visit very few sites, and the wrestling web site they visit is WWE. Owens' fans are busy complaining about how WWE books him on message boards, and spend the rest of our time looking at porn. Yeah that's pretty much point A and point B in my life right now.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 29, 2015 19:01:35 GMT -5
I don't see why people think Neville can't have "less fans" and beat Owens is a 100% legit vote. Neville's fans are children who probably visit very few sites, and the wrestling web site they visit is WWE. Owens' fans are busy complaining about how WWE books him on message boards, and spend the rest of our time looking at porn. It is because we like to think our voices and influence are greater than the rest of WWE fans. Reality is it's not.
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Post by H-Virus on Dec 29, 2015 19:13:19 GMT -5
I don't know if that ever got debunked or not, but I still find it very, very hard to believe that Roman Reigns legitimately won a popularity contest that also included Daniel Bryan, Dean Ambrose, John Cena, and Brock Lesnar. It just seems absolutely impossible, especially since it happened during a time where Reigns was getting booed by the majority of the crowds and WWE already going hard on the 'Making Roman Look Strong' train.Uh....No? Roman didn't start getting boo's consistently until the build to the Rumble. Dude was pretty goddamn popular leading into his injury. The pop he got at the slammy's that year was massive as was when he returned at TLC in the Cena/Rollins table match. I think 'massive' is quite a stretch based on the clip. He got a couple decent pops and a half-hearted 'Roman Reigns' chant that petered off after about three seconds, but compared to some of the pops that Bryan, Cena, Ambrose, Lesnar or Ziggler were getting at that point in time, I wouldn't say it was anything terribly impressive. But yes, my timeline of when everyone started booing Roman was off, but not by much, since the Slammy's that year took place only about a month and a half before the Rumble did.
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Post by baracklesnar on Dec 29, 2015 19:48:55 GMT -5
If you've never seen him before, you're in for a treat. He's just fun to watch.
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Post by paperbackhero on Dec 29, 2015 21:30:47 GMT -5
It would be stupid for them to NOT rig it. Vote for a match type by text...Steel Cage is one of the options...they dont even have the cage rig at the event...of course it was going to be a street fight... Every vote is rigged. Oh, boy. It would be stupid to have cage match be a voting option when WWE does not have the cage available. It would be stupid to break broadcasting rules/regulations when it comes to viewer voting. The Slammys are an attempt at creating a special show. It's a gimmick. They don't take their fake award show that seriously. Well...go to any live event from September when they were running Rollins vs Reigns, like in Calgary and Edmonton..the old Text what match you want to see gimmick...Cage, Street Fight and no dq or something....no cage was there... These broadcasting regulations you speak of....where are they? I don't buy it. I dont understand why you want them to be real, when it only makes sense for the company to control all variables?
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 29, 2015 21:34:31 GMT -5
Oh, boy. It would be stupid to have cage match be a voting option when WWE does not have the cage available. It would be stupid to break broadcasting rules/regulations when it comes to viewer voting. The Slammys are an attempt at creating a special show. It's a gimmick. They don't take their fake award show that seriously. Well...go to any live event from September when they were running Rollins vs Reigns, like in Calgary and Edmonton..the old Text what match you want to see gimmick...Cage, Street Fight and no dq or something....no cage was there... These broadcasting regulations you speak of....where are they? I don't buy it. I dont understand why you want them to be real, when it only makes sense for the company to control all variables? They don't hang the cage for house shows, they bring it out in pieces so it could easily have been there without you knowing. There is years of evidence and reports of the votes being real, to dismiss them just because makes zero sense.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Dec 29, 2015 21:38:44 GMT -5
Oh, boy. It would be stupid to have cage match be a voting option when WWE does not have the cage available. It would be stupid to break broadcasting rules/regulations when it comes to viewer voting. The Slammys are an attempt at creating a special show. It's a gimmick. They don't take their fake award show that seriously. Well...go to any live event from September when they were running Rollins vs Reigns, like in Calgary and Edmonton..the old Text what match you want to see gimmick...Cage, Street Fight and no dq or something....no cage was there... These broadcasting regulations you speak of....where are they? I don't buy it. I dont understand why you want them to be real, when it only makes sense for the company to control all variables? FCC. Essentially they cannot have a contest with viewer voting where the results are false, misleading, or deceptive.
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Post by Vern on Dec 30, 2015 0:06:43 GMT -5
Well...go to any live event from September when they were running Rollins vs Reigns, like in Calgary and Edmonton..the old Text what match you want to see gimmick...Cage, Street Fight and no dq or something....no cage was there... These broadcasting regulations you speak of....where are they? I don't buy it. I dont understand why you want them to be real, when it only makes sense for the company to control all variables? FCC. Essentially they cannot have a contest with viewer voting where the results are false, misleading, or deceptive. House shows aren't broadcast. What makes you think that the FCC has any jurisdiction over them whatsoever?
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Dec 30, 2015 0:17:30 GMT -5
FCC. Essentially they cannot have a contest with viewer voting where the results are false, misleading, or deceptive. House shows aren't broadcast. What makes you think that the FCC has any jurisdiction over them whatsoever? They don't and I never thought they did. I was referring to USA Network programming. I was referring to the Neville vote, which was done on TV.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 30, 2015 0:25:23 GMT -5
FCC. Essentially they cannot have a contest with viewer voting where the results are false, misleading, or deceptive. House shows aren't broadcast. What makes you think that the FCC has any jurisdiction over them whatsoever? He was talking about the fan votes on TV. Also as stated the House Show Cage matches aren't hung above the ring, they use a separate non-tv one that is assembled by the ring crew before the match (kind of like old blue was). The lowering from the ceiling is only done at TV tapings because they can show ominous shots of it during the night and do the whole ceremonial lowering of the cage which looks good on television.
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Post by benstudd on Dec 30, 2015 0:52:22 GMT -5
It has been stated multiple times by multiple people they do not fix the votes. They could be sued if they do. Didn't Meltzer say something like they fixed some but not this time?
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Post by benstudd on Dec 30, 2015 0:55:45 GMT -5
What exactly does WWE have to gain from fixing votes? Are you kidding? Don't you remember when TNA did an online poll to find new challengers for their TNA title? They kept starting over so people would pick the guy they wanted. It was ridiculous. Those things are always a fake popularity contest.
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Post by benstudd on Dec 30, 2015 0:56:50 GMT -5
I don't see why people think Neville can't have "less fans" and beat Owens is a 100% legit vote. Neville's fans are children who probably visit very few sites, and the wrestling web site they visit is WWE. Owens' fans are busy complaining about how WWE books him on message boards, and spend the rest of our time looking at porn. Hopefully not fat guys porn.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Dec 30, 2015 0:58:18 GMT -5
It has been stated multiple times by multiple people they do not fix the votes. They could be sued if they do. Didn't Meltzer say something like they fixed some but not this time? No.
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Post by Vern on Dec 30, 2015 1:01:00 GMT -5
They don't and I never thought they did. I was referring to USA Network programming. I was referring to the Neville vote, which was done on TV. He was talking about the fan votes on TV. I understand the TV issue, but he was replying to a comment talking about the Canadian house show loop.
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