Owens and Ambrose are getting great character development

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Props to the company for that. The IC title is important again, Ambrose and Owens also don't look like jokes ala Usos and the League of Nations. Although Ambrose is mixing it up with those idiots it's great he's in a separate feud with Owens. That moment at the end these is one of the biggest moments on this Raw and Owens, for the first time since he's officially become a main guy on the roster, after feels like he did when he was in NXT. He feels like he's back to that cold-hearted dude again. I mean you saw what he did to Neville tonight. Straight up destroyed that man.

No comment about dude's face at the end of the Ambrose powerbomb but besides that I approve of this character development.

[TWERKIN' MAGGLE]

Ambrose and Owens were the only guys I enjoyed tonight.

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I enjoyed tonight's developments. I am a however a cynic and I can easily see it becoming a case where this feud amounts to Ambrose and Owens brawling continuously to a point where we don't even know why they're mad at each other anymore, without finding an edge that makes this feud any different from the rest of Ambrose's feuds, but so far so good with this thing anyways.

[wisdomwizard]

How are The Usos jokes?

[Urethra Franklin]

Kevin Owens might be my favourite wrestler on the planet right now.

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Dec 29, 2015 1:14:47 GMT -5 wisdomwizard said:

How are The Usos jokes?

They've been jokes since they've returned to action as a tag team. Same boring gimmick, same jokey promos, same losing matches, same everything.

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I loved their whole thing tonight. Neville beat Owens which puts him in the mix, Owens has the massive beatdown/mental breakdown thing. Ambrose runs in and kicks Owens' ass for the save. Owens gets him back later. It was great feud building that had an edge to it.

[Mayonnaise]

I was so ticked at the jobber entrance and 18 second loss. They did an amazing job with all that playing into Owens' situation (whether they meant it to or not) and I didn't expect that attack on Dean. Just wonderful stuff tonight. I like Owens becoming a guy that thrives on violence over the prizefighter stuff as well.

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

Dec 29, 2015 1:56:31 GMT -5 @lovehater said:

I loved their whole thing tonight. Neville beat Owens which puts him in the mix, Owens has the massive beatdown/mental breakdown thing. Ambrose runs in and kicks Owens' ass for the save. Owens gets him back later. It was great feud building that had an edge to it.

Yeah, I was not happy with the really short match, but then Owens kept going back and going back to the beatdown, and looked so damn intense. This is the Kevin Owens that could be a money drawing heel.

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Dec 29, 2015 1:33:05 GMT -5 @kn said:

Dec 29, 2015 1:14:47 GMT -5 wisdomwizard said:

How are The Usos jokes?

They've been jokes since they've returned to action as a tag team. Same boring gimmick, same jokey promos, same losing matches, same everything.

They seem super stale. I'm not sure what else they can really do though, the characters they are seem like what they're best suited for. They were overexposed big time before Jey got hurt, and for some reason the long layoff didn't refresh them at all.

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Dec 29, 2015 2:08:28 GMT -5 @lovehater said:

Dec 29, 2015 1:33:05 GMT -5 @kn said:

They've been jokes since they've returned to action as a tag team. Same boring gimmick, same jokey promos, same losing matches, same everything.

They seem super stale. I'm not sure what else they can really do though, the characters they are seem like what they're best suited for. They were overexposed big time before Jey got hurt, and for some reason the long layoff didn't refresh them at all.

Exactly. It's too much really and I don't know what they're going to do. It's similar to how Kofi was when he was during his mega-stale run from 2012-2014.

[StormanReigns]

Dec 29, 2015 0:42:49 GMT -5 TWERKIN' MAGGLE said:

Ambrose and Owens were the only guys I enjoyed tonight.

Owens is the best heel in the company. He can get smarks to boo him. Sheamus can't even get marks to boo him

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Dec 29, 2015 2:13:14 GMT -5 @kn said:

Dec 29, 2015 2:08:28 GMT -5 @lovehater said:

They seem super stale. I'm not sure what else they can really do though, the characters they are seem like what they're best suited for. They were overexposed big time before Jey got hurt, and for some reason the long layoff didn't refresh them at all.

Exactly. It's too much really and I don't know what they're going to do. It's similar to how Kofi was when he was during his mega-stale run from 2012-2014.

With Kingston though, it never got so bad that some crowds started turning on him... That didn't happen until The New Day started out as a babyface thing.

But yeah... f***ed if I know what the hell they CAN do with The Usos. They're not even being pushed that hard, all things considered.

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Dec 29, 2015 2:18:10 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

Dec 29, 2015 2:13:14 GMT -5 @kn said:

Exactly. It's too much really and I don't know what they're going to do. It's similar to how Kofi was when he was during his mega-stale run from 2012-2014.

With Kingston though, it never got so bad that some crowds started turning on him... That didn't happen until The New Day started out as a babyface thing.

But yeah... f***ed if I know what the hell they CAN do with The Usos. They're not even being pushed that hard, all things considered.

They might have to do what they've done with Reigns with the Usos and by that I mean putting them in matches with stipulations so the crowd can be won over by their ringwork. That ladder match with the Wyatts for example, that was amazing. They need more stuff like that. Right now I haven't been impressed or wowed by anything they've done these past few months.

[TheFadedSpade]

Dec 29, 2015 0:42:49 GMT -5 TWERKIN' MAGGLE said:

Ambrose and Owens were the only guys I enjoyed tonight.

Same.

They also happen to be my two favorite in the company as well.

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

Dec 29, 2015 2:18:10 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

Dec 29, 2015 2:13:14 GMT -5 @kn said:

Exactly. It's too much really and I don't know what they're going to do. It's similar to how Kofi was when he was during his mega-stale run from 2012-2014.

With Kingston though, it never got so bad that some crowds started turning on him... That didn't happen until The New Day started out as a babyface thing.

But yeah... f***ed if I know what the hell they CAN do with The Usos. They're not even being pushed that hard, all things considered.

I think they could start with a face lift. Their look has gone from kind of cool to god knows what, so losing some of the fashion accessories could be a start.

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I would like this to put Neville in the mix for the IC Title, but he doesn't seem quite there because the Miz is kinda in the wings for at the very least a mini feud to hopefully give Neville even more of a rub.

But I assume, or at lets hope with as hard as theyre pushing Neville as Breakout Star of the Year that his momentum continues.

As for Ambrose and Owens, I really hope that this momentum continues into the new year because it's a way better development than "Dean threw Soda and Popcorn on him", now it feels like they are legitimately at war and that's how it SHOULD FEEL.

[baracklesnar]

Dec 29, 2015 2:01:00 GMT -5 Mayonnaise said:

I was so ticked at the jobber entrance and 18 second loss. They did an amazing job with all that playing into Owens' situation (whether they meant it to or not) and I didn't expect that attack on Dean. Just wonderful stuff tonight. I like Owens becoming a guy that thrives on violence over the prizefighter stuff as well.

Perhaps he could form some sort of Nation of Violence.