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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 23:05:18 GMT -5
commentary's job is to sit around and crack wise like it's dime beer night at the local Elk's Lodge. Got it.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 30, 2015 23:10:59 GMT -5
You know now people mute TV commentators during football and listen to the radio broadcast instead? We need an option like this. If I knew I could get away with it without getting sued by the WWE, I would love to provide live alternate audio commentary for Raw and Smackdown as the show happens.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Dec 30, 2015 23:16:33 GMT -5
Question for JBL: If we can see it and we don't need you for that, what is your purpose for being there?
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 30, 2015 23:18:30 GMT -5
Pretty much everything I was gonna say was said in the first page, including the OP.
So, I'll just say JBL f***ing sucks.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 30, 2015 23:20:27 GMT -5
commentary's job is to sit around and crack wise like it's dime beer night at the local Elk's Lodge. Got it. I swear that actually was legitimately something on one of those leaked commentators notes... "Commentary should be like you're talking with your friends at the bar". (Although I'd probably pick better friends than the three at the desk these days)
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Post by Professor Chaos on Dec 30, 2015 23:22:24 GMT -5
Between this and Joey's rant this company needs to take a hard look at how their own employees are pushing away what fanbase the company has left.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Dec 30, 2015 23:24:33 GMT -5
The commentary sucks and you are nearly as shit as Lawler, JBL.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 30, 2015 23:33:27 GMT -5
You know now people mute TV commentators during football and listen to the radio broadcast instead? We need an option like this. The WWF actually used to have a radio broadcast for major events. I remember Heat was having problems broadcasting due to sunspots or something and they played the Radio broadcast on tv instead.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Dec 30, 2015 23:44:46 GMT -5
Instead of admitting they blew the call, JBL is lashing out like a child.
Seriously, just fire him.
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Post by Sicho100 on Dec 30, 2015 23:58:16 GMT -5
I know it's just Twitter, but it seems like WWE personalities are getting downright hostile lately in regards to criticism. It may be best for them to sit everybody down and reiterate that they don't need to engage critics in a hostile manner there. Making sensible points instead of collectively going off and telling fans to basically not watch their product seems really counterproductive right now. I'd guess that they are probably getting more negative comments now, just because of the shittiness of the product. Before, while they undoubtedly got negative comments, they probably weren't as numerous and vociferous. And so now those negative comments are breaking them. It would be nice if the higher ups that have control over the product were to notice how there is much more complaining about the product now (including things like this and the crowd reactions. A crowd chanting "Please Retire" at Big Show is not evidence of good heel heat. Similarly, a crowd doing the wave is a demonstration that they are bored by what's going on, not something the WWE should be celebrating, and the more and more hostile tweets should also be seen as an indictment of the product.) Unfortunately, Vince doesn't seem to be able to get the hint.
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 31, 2015 0:04:05 GMT -5
If the same broadcast featured a number of people calling the police department after Vince McMahon was arrested at the opening of the show, no, JBL, you don't have the right to say that fans can figure this out for themselves.
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Post by Just call me D.j.m. on Dec 31, 2015 0:06:27 GMT -5
Instead of admitting they blew the call, JBL is lashing out like a child. Seriously, just fire him. Vince probably loves it. He never apologizes or some dumb alpha-male bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2015 0:10:59 GMT -5
He's so goddamn stupid he buried himself in his reply. If WE don't need YOU, why are you on TV? If a commentator can't, you know, commentate... Then they suck at their job. I don't need to hear three dudes talk about some irrelevant bullshit while yucking it up like they're having the time of their lives. It's a very simple concept. Shit happens in the ring, you talk about what's happening in the ring.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Dec 31, 2015 0:36:50 GMT -5
The best part is multiple guys are allowed to guest commentate, and when they're on, they scream at the commentators to call the action.
They know the problem, the commentators know the problem, Vince knows the problem.
No one gives enough of a shit to fix it.
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Post by Rave on Dec 31, 2015 0:46:45 GMT -5
commentary's job is to sit around and crack wise like it's dime beer night at the local Elk's Lodge. Got it. Sad as it is, this is actually true. "You are talking to your buddy in a bar" is on the long-ass set of instructions commentary's given. Disregarding Jibbles being an absolute dick about this (which is very much uncalled for), I don't quite understand why everyone's dumping on him (the heel color) about it and not also directing their ire towards Cole/Saxton (the face-leaning commentators) for not picking up on it as well. IMO, the face commentators should be picking up on and taking umbrage about heel shenanigans first while the heel commentator defends it, even if it's just resorting to that age-old adage about it being legal if the ref doesn't see it. Unless people are criticizing them as well, which makes my point moot. Really though, commentary's needed an overhaul for ages.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Dec 31, 2015 0:50:02 GMT -5
Is this the new philosophy for WWE commentary? "You're not blind, you can see what's happening"?
Sure we can, but part of your job description is to aid in the on-screen storytelling by explaining to people what is going on and nudge them in the direction of whatever emotion they should be feeling towards the story being told by the talent. Should they feel excited? Disgusted? Intrigued? It's your job to guide them in that direction. The audience relies on the commentary team to tell them what's notable and important about what's happening on-screen, and if that commentary team clearly doesn't care about something, the audience won't either, which is kind of a problem if that something is a focal point of a story you're trying to tell.
Mistakes happen, John. Just be man enough to admit it and not try and cover your trail with such obvious horse shit, because that just makes you and your whole company look bad.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 31, 2015 0:55:34 GMT -5
JBL doesn't really announce at all. He merely yells various stock catchphrases and buzzwords he's been told to say, at twice the volume of the other two commentators.
For example, he'll say "MEXICO'S GREATEST EXPORT!!!!! MAGGLE" every single he sees Alberto, without exception.
He's like one of those toys with buttons on the back and a speaker embedded into their chest.
BUZZ LIGHTYEAR TO THE RESCUE!!!!
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Dec 31, 2015 1:04:20 GMT -5
Given how WWE's been on twitter the past couple days, I wonder how long it will take for the company to go full TNA on twitter.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Dec 31, 2015 1:04:48 GMT -5
commentary's job is to sit around and crack wise like it's dime beer night at the local Elk's Lodge. Got it. Sad as it is, this is actually true. "You are talking to your buddy in a bar" is on the long-ass set of instructions commentary's given. Disregarding Jibbles being an absolute dick about this (which is very much uncalled for), I don't quite understand why everyone's dumping on him (the heel color) about it and not also directing their ire towards Cole/Saxton (the face-leaning commentators) for not picking up on it as well. IMO, the face commentators should be picking up on and taking umbrage about heel shenanigans first while the heel commentator defends it, even if it's just resorting to that age-old adage about it being legal if the ref doesn't see it. Unless people are criticizing them as well, which makes my point moot. Really though, commentary's needed an overhaul for ages. Everyone's dumping on him because he lashed out at some twitter moron. The twitter moron baited him and he took it, but he went above in beyond to make himself look like a stupid asshole.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Dec 31, 2015 1:10:56 GMT -5
Between this and Joey's rant this company needs to take a hard look at how their own employees are pushing away what fanbase the company has left. I was just going to talk about Joey Styles' little rant, but yeah it is getting more indicative of the guys of old having no idea on how to adapt to certain changes in fandom, especially if it can nor be used to their benefit. And the sad news for them is that all this vitriol towards critics is not helpful in any way. Unless the critic is absolutely being harsh and gives no alternative to make it better, just don't respond. You don't need to respond to say you are listening to or ignoring their criticism because as the old saying goes, actions speak louder than words.
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