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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Jan 3, 2016 21:44:13 GMT -5
Rewatched last year's Royal Rumble event on the Network just there (remember when the Ascension were somewhat relevant?) and the main event was just as bad as I remembered.
No D-Von to go with Bubba's return, Bryan going out after ten minutes in anti-climactic fashion, the Local Men dumping out Ziggler, Wyatt and Ambrose like they were garbage, Mizdow barely getting a look in, and Rock having to hold Reigns' hand while he was getting booed out of the building all combined to make a horrendous show that was worse than the match the year before.
The triple threat was kick ass though, that match cemented Rollins as a main eventer for me.
It also amused me how Tom Philips asked Cena what was next for him and then Rusev interrupted the interview right on cue.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jan 3, 2016 21:49:04 GMT -5
Unceremoniously dumping Bryan out of the Rumble was f***ing stupid.
Year after year they kept f***ing up with him.
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Post by MGH on Jan 3, 2016 21:50:30 GMT -5
My best friend pointed this out and it still makes me laugh because I didn't notice it in real time.
Daniel Bryan is unceremoniously eliminated, and on cue SHATTERED DREAMS pops up behind him on the titantron. I think that sums up the entire 2015 Rumble match, quite frankly.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jan 3, 2016 21:51:10 GMT -5
The post win Roman and Rock interview with I think Tom was really horrible too. Rock was always an ass to interviewers but he seemed especially shitty here. And Roman trying to copy his big cousin didn't make him look like A BIG DAWG!
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Jan 3, 2016 21:55:21 GMT -5
The post win Roman and Rock interview with I think Tom was really horrible too. Rock was always an ass to interviewers but he seemed especially shitty here. And Roman trying to copy his big cousin didn't make him look like A BIG DAWG! It's probably one of the most awkward interviews I've ever seen. Tom asks Reigns a perfectly reasonable question about how he'll handle Lesnar at WrestleMania and Reigns and Rock proceed to bury the question because Reigns needed to get his mouth sewn up and living in the moment or some crap like that. Rock then keeps threatening to slap the smile off Tom's face for some unknown reason, and unlike his banter with Coach it didn't feel like it was Rock the character but more Dwayne Johnson pissed that his cousin was getting booed out the building (and by proxy him). Rock came off like a massive douche in this interview and I say that as a massive Rock fan.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Jan 3, 2016 22:00:55 GMT -5
I can almost forgive the whole "Local Men dump Ziggler/Wyatt/Ambrose" thing, if you've got that white-hot babyface that fans are clamoring to win. Shit, switch Roman Reigns with any one of those three, and I think the reaction would be way different.
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Post by StormanReigns on Jan 3, 2016 22:03:55 GMT -5
Rewatched last year's Royal Rumble event on the Network just there (remember when the Ascension were somewhat relevant?) and the main event was just as bad as I remembered. No D-Von to go with Bubba's return, Bryan going out after ten minutes in anti-climactic fashion, the Local Men dumping out Ziggler, Wyatt and Ambrose like they were garbage, Mizdow barely getting a look in, and Rock having to hold Reigns' hand while he was getting booed out of the building all combined to make a horrendous show that was worse than the match the year before. The triple threat was kick ass though, that match cemented Rollins as a main eventer for me. It also amused me how Tom Philips asked Cena what was next for him and then Rusev interrupted the interview right on cue. It was the worst booked thing they have ever done. Two guys in their mid 40's buried the entire roster, and they took out the overwhelming fan favorite just 10 minutes in. Why would you bring Daniel Bryan back just to bury him?
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 3, 2016 22:05:16 GMT -5
Dumping Bryan that early in the match was the dumbest thing in the world that only a moron would think is anything resembling a good idea.
Regardless of what you think or who you want to be in the Mania main event, you KNOW people love the guy. They hijacked the damn match for him last week. So, if he's gone by the halfway point of the match, of course the crowd is gonna take a big shit on it. That's just poor booking. No foresight. You HAVE to be smarter than that. Keep him out of the match and just bring him back the night after.
If Ambrose or Ziggler won, you could have salvaged it but they weren't so that only served to make people more upset. Combine all that and you took Roman from a somewhat cold competitor that was probably gonna get a moderate reaction and turned him into Cecil the Lion.
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Jan 3, 2016 22:06:44 GMT -5
Rewatched last year's Royal Rumble event on the Network just there (remember when the Ascension were somewhat relevant?) and the main event was just as bad as I remembered. No D-Von to go with Bubba's return, Bryan going out after ten minutes in anti-climactic fashion, the Local Men dumping out Ziggler, Wyatt and Ambrose like they were garbage, Mizdow barely getting a look in, and Rock having to hold Reigns' hand while he was getting booed out of the building all combined to make a horrendous show that was worse than the match the year before. The triple threat was kick ass though, that match cemented Rollins as a main eventer for me. It also amused me how Tom Philips asked Cena what was next for him and then Rusev interrupted the interview right on cue. It was the worst booked thing they have ever done. Two guys in their mid 40's buried the entire roster, and they took out the overwhelming fan favorite just 10 minutes in. Why would you bring Daniel Bryan back just to bury him? To get some $9.99 bucks for the Network and give the Rumble some form of unpredictability because Bryan was the only other serious option aside from Reigns. Anyone who thought Ambrose or Ziggler would face Brock at WrestleMania that year were kidding themselves on.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 3, 2016 22:07:03 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by Instant Classic on Jan 3, 2016 22:10:53 GMT -5
Worst. Rumble. Ever.
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Jan 3, 2016 22:12:10 GMT -5
Dumping Bryan that early in the match was the dumbest thing in the world that only a moron would think is anything resembling a good idea. Regardless of what you think or who you want to be in the Mania main event, you KNOW people love the guy. They hijacked the damn match for him last week. So, if he's gone by the halfway point of the match, of course the crowd is gonna take a big shit on it. That's just poor booking. No foresight. You HAVE to be smarter than that. Keep him out of the match and just bring him back the night after. If Ambrose or Ziggler won, you could have salvaged it but they weren't so that only served to make people more upset. Combine all that and you took Roman from a somewhat cold competitor that was probably gonna get a moderate reaction and turned him into Cecil the Lion. I really think if they were dead set on having Reigns win, then have him and Bryan be the final two and let them do a ten minute ending segment where Roman proves he can hang with the big boys. Which he did the following month against Bryan at Fastlane anyway. Sure he'll get booed still but it would've been less sustained than having it happen throughout the whole match and he'll hopefully have gained respect from the Philly crowd. Bryan being the last one eliminated also shows that WWE still has stock in him and thus fans don't go into a panic wondering if Bryan's being pushed back to the mid card.
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Post by Jiren on Jan 3, 2016 22:28:01 GMT -5
The post Match interview i can understand
After that debacle with Roman & Rock getting destroyed by the crowd (Although rock got cheered when he came out) I'm sure Rock was annoyed & frustrated and just did what he always did so he could get it over with.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jan 3, 2016 22:31:45 GMT -5
It wouldn't have been big, but the match would have been greatly improved by shifting the focus off of the Local Men (and thus preventing them from ever receiving the designation) and making the major heel roadblocks of the match Rusev and either Wyatt or Harper. There were so many factors in that match that kept it from being enjoyable, but at least trying to push some guys from this generation of wrestlers within the confines of the match so that it wasn't "old monster heels throw every over guy out like garbage so that Reigns can clear house later" would have been at least a mild improvement without changing the overall booking of the match.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 3, 2016 22:38:46 GMT -5
It was doomed to fail when WWE insisted on pushing Reigns to win at WrestleMania. While the Rumble was booked f***ing terribly, there wasn't really a way to avoid Reigns getting booed.
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Post by Chiral on Jan 3, 2016 22:43:18 GMT -5
Quite possibly the worst modern WWE match I've seen. The most anti-fanbase match too.
-Something seemed up immediately when R-Truth is the D-Von substitute -No feuds. -Bryan eliminated without fanfare, they could have made a huge Wrestlemania storyline by having someone cheat him out of the match, but since it was Bray it was forgotten because Bray was very obviously locked in to face Undertaker and couldn't do anything about it -Roman was the wrong guy to win -Big Show and Kane -Blatant disregard for everyone the fans cared about. WWE treated the reaction as Bryan fans being whiners, when the fans reacted positively to Ziggler, Ryback, Mizdow, Ambrose, Rusev, and Swagger. The "fans only want Bryan or nothing" message sent out by WWE and others is a way to deflect how bad the booking was here.
I could go on and on and on about this match but I need to save my sanity.
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Post by eJm on Jan 3, 2016 22:50:57 GMT -5
It was doomed to fail when WWE insisted on pushing Reigns to win at WrestleMania. While the Rumble was booked f***ing terribly, there wasn't really a way to avoid Reigns getting booed. I actually disagree with that. I'm not saying Reigns would have been mega cheered if the Rumble was booked better but the reaction would have been less vicious if they didn't systematically kill every person the fans were invested in seeing in as rapid fashion as they did all just to have Reigns "overcome the odds". You have to remember, people were REALLY into the 2014 Rumble before they found out Bryan wasn't coming out and in hindsight, the match was actually really well done with the only problem being the winner. For 2015, they killed the crowd 10-15 minutes into an hour long match, one that even when dull, can still get some kind of reaction. Even for WWE, that is astounding.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 3, 2016 22:53:33 GMT -5
The combination of Bryan getting dumped like an afterthought and Ambrose/Wyatt/Ziggler/Ryback all getting tossed out like sacks of crap completely killed that match dead. It was insane how stupidly they booked that thing.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Jan 3, 2016 22:59:14 GMT -5
Here is how the booking probably went down:
Writer: Vince, you sure about Roman? It's going to be like 1993 if it comes down to Bryan and Reigns. Vince: Yeah I know, get Bryan out of the match before Reigns even gets there, that way no split crowd reaction. Writer: um ok, you got it,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 23:04:44 GMT -5
The way Bryan was eliminated seemed designed to take the wind out of his fans' sails.
As for the Local Men dumping unconscious Ambrose/Ziggler out of the ring, they must have thought it would make people hate them and cheer for Roman harder. When anyone on this board and their moms could've told them that's not how it was going to go, ever. They really ought to have a form of "don't do that guy" in situations like that.
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