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Post by Urfarkendarf on Jan 5, 2016 2:14:02 GMT -5
Two comments before my guesses.
#1 Vader tweeted the HOF logo as posted a page or so back, but followed up quickly stating that he hadn't heard anything about it but is clearly excited because of the time of year. Whether he let the cat out of the bag remains to be seen.
#2 Owen. While I completely understand how anyone could be against Owen going in, one person IMO can swing it the other way with no argument against it. Bret. If Bret is good with it and wants it to happen, then while I understand Martha's stance completely as well as the argument about the WWE having responsbility in his death, Bret represents Owen's wrestling career in a far greater capacity than Martha. She's got every right to her stance, but at the same time Owen deserves the accolade, as do his fans bc at the end of the day the HOF is for us just as much as it honors the people being inducted. If Bret is on board with it, then I am as well. I cannot see them putting him in unless they have at least Bret's complete blessing. I don't want to argue or rebut anyone in respect to this subject, but wanted to voice my opinion.
Predictions:
The Undertaker - Regardless of the fact he's probably wrestling, its still an unknown. I think Taker goes in Texas even if he has a match the next night. It would sort of be a precedent, but Hogan did get involved the night after his induction, so not completely out of question. Sting - I don't think Sting headlines the WWE HOF. He just doesnt have the history with the company for them to give him the headliner position. A 1b behind an icon like Taker is not a bad spot either. Freebirds Sable JBL Hansen Demolition or Vader
I think its too soon for The Rock simply because of things hes said about it in the past unless they are absolutely desperate to get people to watch etc.
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Post by Reflecto on Jan 5, 2016 2:16:57 GMT -5
the usual quota usually is.. Headliner Popular upper midcarder perhaps even former world champion international star female non wrestler (announcer/manager) celebrity old territory era star tag team/faction With that quota in line, I'd assume it will be: Headliner: The Undertaker (Or Rock, if the "they tell people in December and Rock just announced he'd be at Wrestlemania, with no clue how it is). Popular upper midcarder perhaps even former world champion: I'm assuming JBL right here, and that'd likely cover the non-wrestler as well. international star: Jushin "Thunder" Liger female: Sable non wrestler (announcer/manager): Open to some other option due to the JBL induction celebrity: I assume to sidestep the Motorhead-HOF? question, they induct Lemmy with the Warrior Award and make it "well, he did do a lot of theme music, so he does count". old territory era star- Likely Stan Hansen there. tag team/faction- The Fabulous Freebirds. Better to rip it off now like a Band-Aid.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 5, 2016 2:24:02 GMT -5
The Warrior Award: The WWE Universe.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 5, 2016 2:39:21 GMT -5
Predictions: Sting - I don't think Sting headlines the WWE HOF. He just doesnt have the history with the company for them to give him the headliner position. A 1b behind an icon like Taker is not a bad spot either. I mean besides the year of polka dots, did Dusty have such a strong history with the company? Sting can headline.
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Post by The Heenan Family on Jan 5, 2016 6:18:47 GMT -5
how the hell has Lou Thesz not been inducted yet? In 2014, WWE bought some memorabilia from his widow. So I think the door is open at least.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Jan 5, 2016 6:56:26 GMT -5
the usual quota usually is.. Headliner Popular upper midcarder perhaps even former world champion international star female non wrestler (announcer/manager) celebrity old territory era star tag team/faction With that quota in line, I'd assume it will be: Headliner: The Undertaker (Or Rock, if the "they tell people in December and Rock just announced he'd be at Wrestlemania, with no clue how it is). Popular upper midcarder perhaps even former world champion: I'm assuming JBL right here, and that'd likely cover the non-wrestler as well. international star: Jushin "Thunder" Liger female: Sable non wrestler (announcer/manager): Open to some other option due to the JBL induction celebrity: I assume to sidestep the Motorhead-HOF? question, they induct Lemmy with the Warrior Award and make it "well, he did do a lot of theme music, so he does count". old territory era star- Likely Stan Hansen there. tag team/faction- The Fabulous Freebirds. Better to rip it off now like a Band-Aid. I know Garvin/Hayes had a few years in WCW in the midcard but essentially TheFreebirds were giant Territory stars in WCCW and other sourthern territories. Interestingly they would be 3fer with Territory star/tag team/heel and Postumous inductee as Roberts and Gordy who were 2/3 of peak Freebirds
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Jan 5, 2016 12:04:22 GMT -5
Predictions: Sting - I don't think Sting headlines the WWE HOF. He just doesnt have the history with the company for them to give him the headliner position. A 1b behind an icon like Taker is not a bad spot either. I mean besides the year of polka dots, did Dusty have such a strong history with the company? Sting can headline. Dusty certainly had a stronger history at the point he was inducted than Sting does now both in ring and behind the scenes. I don't disagree that he "can" headline, I just don't think WWE will give him that honor which is the key here, mostly because of what they're trying to do with this Mania. Dusty is also considered a "weaker" headliner. It all depends on the year these guys do go in. Dusty doesnt headline any year like an Austin, Hogan, and eventually Rock, Taker, and HHH do, and neither does Sting. It all depends on the depth of the class that year. I think they want a big splash this year b/c of the focus on the gate record that's been there since before this Mania was even confirmed to be in the Jerrydome.
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Post by psychokiller on Jan 5, 2016 15:13:17 GMT -5
I wonder who the big headliner will be this year. I'd rather not see Taker, Rock or Sting go in yet if their still going to wrestle. I don't know who the big headline guy can be though if it isn't one of those 3.
I think a 2016 class similar to this would be really good though:
Sid Vader Diamond Dallas Page X-Pac The Fabulous Freebirds Demolition Sable Rick Rude
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jan 5, 2016 15:21:57 GMT -5
I think Dusty ends up not headlining for the same reason they put Nash as the headliner over Savage last year; they don't want the marquee guy going in to be a posthumous induction, because aside from wanting to sell tickets and it being stronger if it's the actual person going in giving the speech rather than a next of kin, it ends the ceremony on a much brighter note. I see Dusty being a very strong candidate for this year, at least given everything internally.
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Post by psychokiller on Jan 5, 2016 15:25:08 GMT -5
I think Dusty ends up not headlining for the same reason they put Nash as the headliner over Savage last year; they don't want the marquee guy going in to be a posthumous induction, because aside from wanting to sell tickets and it being stronger if it's the actual person going in giving the speech rather than a next of kin, it ends the ceremony on a much brighter note. I see Dusty being a very strong candidate for this year, at least given everything internally. Dusty was already inducted back in 2007.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jan 5, 2016 15:45:02 GMT -5
I think Dusty ends up not headlining for the same reason they put Nash as the headliner over Savage last year; they don't want the marquee guy going in to be a posthumous induction, because aside from wanting to sell tickets and it being stronger if it's the actual person going in giving the speech rather than a next of kin, it ends the ceremony on a much brighter note. I see Dusty being a very strong candidate for this year, at least given everything internally. Dusty was the 'headliner' in 2007.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jan 5, 2016 15:49:10 GMT -5
Oh. Well, in that case Dusty definitely isn't going to be headlining in 2016.
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Post by The Heenan Family on Jan 10, 2016 19:31:03 GMT -5
So tomorrow, maybe even on WWE.com they'll announce the headliner since tickets go on sale later this week. I chose Sting earlier since he lives in Texas and probably won't ever compete again but it wouldn't surprise me if Undertaker being inducted in Texas was too perfect to pass up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 19:32:39 GMT -5
Sting and Taker both go in.
This is how they build up to Wrestlemania 33. It's going to be one year in advance like Rock vs. Cena.
They call each other out at the Hall of Fame and the match is booked!
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 10, 2016 19:47:35 GMT -5
WWE is so resistant when it comes to having multiple posthumous inductions that I'm not sure I want Lemmy taking up a spot that could go to far more deserving dead guys. Honestly, I don't see them ever inducting a celebrity posthumously. The only one I really think has a chance of that is Andy Kaufman. He'll go in the same year the Hebners, Benoit and Nailz go in.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 10, 2016 19:51:17 GMT -5
I mean besides the year of polka dots, did Dusty have such a strong history with the company? Sting can headline. He was a top attraction for the WWWF in the late '70s, challenging Graham for the title.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 10, 2016 19:52:57 GMT -5
WWE is so resistant when it comes to having multiple posthumous inductions that I'm not sure I want Lemmy taking up a spot that could go to far more deserving dead guys. Honestly, I don't see them ever inducting a celebrity posthumously. The only one I really think has a chance of that is Andy Kaufman. He'll go in the same year the Hebners, Benoit and Nailz go in. I could see them inducting Motorhead in general.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jan 10, 2016 19:56:05 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't see them ever inducting a celebrity posthumously. The only one I really think has a chance of that is Andy Kaufman. He'll go in the same year the Hebners, Benoit and Nailz go in. I could see them inducting Motorhead in general. I don't know if I see either, but I don't understand why they would only induct Lemmy and not all of Motorhead, yet I am seeing way more suggestions of inducting Lemmy than I am seeing of inducting Motorhead. I don't really understand why people think only Lemmy should go in, or why they are speculating that only Lemmy would go in.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 10, 2016 19:59:12 GMT -5
WWE is so resistant when it comes to having multiple posthumous inductions that I'm not sure I want Lemmy taking up a spot that could go to far more deserving dead guys. Honestly, I don't see them ever inducting a celebrity posthumously. The only one I really think has a chance of that is Andy Kaufman. He'll go in the same year the Hebners, Benoit and Nailz go in. I think Billy Jack Haynes is going to be in that class too.
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Post by celtics543 on Jan 10, 2016 20:07:33 GMT -5
The biggest Wrestlemania of all time and there's really only one guy that I can see headlining...Vince McMahon. Maybe he wants to a posthumous inductee like his dad was but Vince obviously deserves to go in and what better time than at the biggest Wrestlemania of all time. This is Vince's baby and having 100k people in attendance will set all attendance records for the company. Vince deserves the moment.
I guess I'd go
Vince Sting Freebirds Vader Paul Boesch Sable Andy Kauffman
It has a headliner, two top stars of the 90's, a former Texas promoter, the obvious Freebird induction, a diva, and the best celebrity involved with wrestling.
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