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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Apr 26, 2016 7:46:07 GMT -5
Hirooki Goto shouldn't have dropped the IC Title to Nakamura. It would have added a good deal more to his match with Naito if the IC Title was up for grabs, and AJ vs Nakamura really didn't need the belt to add more prestige to begin with; its AJ Styles vs Shinsuke Nakamura. The match sold itself without need for the strap. Kind of reminds me of HHH/Reigns not needing to be for the belt. Well, except for the whole part of the crowd not hating Styles and Nakamura. |
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Post by EyeofTyr on Apr 26, 2016 8:32:06 GMT -5
The general handling of Goto. Pick a year, it's pretty much applicable to any of them. He has always hovered on the cusp of being one of the top guys for them, but they've always bungled it or been too gun shy to pull the trigger.
Hell, they gave Togi a more legitimate run as a top guy than they have Goto.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 26, 2016 8:47:33 GMT -5
Reading an interview Shinsuke Nakamura did with KAMINOGE, he seems very careful about how he expresses it, since he notes his words or intentions can be misconstrued at times, but he politely said that NJPW in its modern form is adamant on making what happens in the ring the focus, and that's part of why he dislikes putting the focus on backstage politics. He also says that the wrestlers need to be heading in one direction, with a shared goal, and that it takes strong leadership among the wrestlers.
He doesn't say as much, but given he says in the interview that it's been something that has taken a lot of work, the impression I got from it was he was too professional to say these have not been the case at all times in the past, that wrestlers were not in harmony and backstage politics had overshadowed the in-ring product.
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Post by 魔界5号 on Apr 26, 2016 8:59:22 GMT -5
NEVER. I don't mind having a hoss division but I loved the original concept.
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Post by Ryushinku on Apr 26, 2016 9:19:51 GMT -5
TNA levels of focussing on their Knockouts butts or more/less? NJPW levels of camera focus put TNA to shame. My God. I have a hard time believing that was possible. |
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan on Apr 26, 2016 13:35:32 GMT -5
NJPW levels of camera focus put TNA to shame. My God. I have a hard time believing that was possible. I've seen shots of Maria's ass so close, that I'm surprised you couldn't see her colon. |
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Apr 26, 2016 16:13:28 GMT -5
My God. I have a hard time believing that was possible. I've seen shots of Maria's ass so close, that I'm surprised you couldn't see her colon. Didn't you even get fecal matter on your TV screen? Although I'm not sure that was really NJPW's fault. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 21:36:40 GMT -5
Putting on television the lawyer who sued his fellow members of the NWA to take it away from David Marquez & the rest. Not only should they not have worked with the guy after he pulled that garbage, but then they let him become a focus of NJPW shows as a character, also. I'd rather look at Vince Russo on camera.
Jeff Jarrett in the Bullet Club. Or even on the show at all. I have a hard time believing that anyone besides Jeff and Karen want to pay to watch current Jeff Jarrett wrestle.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan on Apr 26, 2016 22:46:31 GMT -5
Putting on television the lawyer who sued his fellow members of the NWA to take it away from David Marquez & the rest. Not only should they not have worked with the guy after he pulled that garbage, but then they let him become a focus of NJPW shows as a character, also. I'd rather look at Vince Russo on camera. Was that the really annoying jackass that accompanied Chase Owens in his match against Liger? I only saw him in that one episode of the AXS show and I wanted to strangle him. He was trying way too hard to be an asshole wrestling manager but just looked like an asshole. |
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Post by chrom on Apr 27, 2016 11:39:59 GMT -5
Putting on television the lawyer who sued his fellow members of the NWA to take it away from David Marquez & the rest. Not only should they not have worked with the guy after he pulled that garbage, but then they let him become a focus of NJPW shows as a character, also. I'd rather look at Vince Russo on camera. Was that the really annoying jackass that accompanied Chase Owens in his match against Liger? I only saw him in that one episode of the AXS show and I wanted to strangle him. He was trying way too hard to be an asshole wrestling manager but just looked like an asshole. That's Bruce Tharpe, he's a mark for wrestling and New Japan has to bring him along as he has it in their working agreement that he gets to be there at events whenever they need The NWA belts to fill out a show. He's about 5% smarter than Dixie Carter |
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Post by eldandyjamupguy on Apr 27, 2016 12:16:38 GMT -5
whaaaaaat people hating on Bruce Tharpe the god? He might be shifty and w/e I don't follow his practices as the head honcho of NWA cause I couldn't care less about it, but he was gold every time he appeared in NJPW. He was literally the only good thing that the NWA deal produced (that and Big Daddy Yum Yum getting chopped by Kojima). How do you not love him doing evil villain laugh while burnig a picture of Liger? Love him miss him when was the last time he was on a show? Was it when Tenzan beat Conway? also, as for the thread itself: Ogawa/Hashimoto 1/4/99 Hash never ever recovered from that fiasco. NJPW's equivalent to the finger poke of doom and it literally happened on the same day |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Apr 27, 2016 16:17:07 GMT -5
Their really bad habit of giving people a major belt very quickly after their debut.
Lesnar
Styles
The Methhead Brothers
Tanga Roa
Didn't MVP basically get the IC Title invented for him in the first place?
also 7/8 slots in the WK main event in the last 4 years were Okada and Tana, that's dumb.
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Post by Fundertaker on Apr 27, 2016 17:21:59 GMT -5
Yep. It was just going to be a nothing belt to build a contender down the road and merge it with the IWGP Heavyweight title, which was done before, before Nakamura won it and it took a life of its own.
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Post by Starshine on Apr 27, 2016 18:39:39 GMT -5
Chaos continuing to exist well past the point where it's even really a thing anymore.
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Post by the2ndevil on Apr 27, 2016 20:45:09 GMT -5
Definitely the Gracies and NWA Guys. Rob Conway, Big Daddy Yum Yum, Michael Tarver. Awful. I agreed with you up until you mentioned #BDYY, the greatest seller of all time.  Thanks to Botchamania, all I hear is the William Tell Overture. |
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Post by Phil Parent on Apr 27, 2016 21:29:59 GMT -5
Chaos continuing to exist well past the point where it's even really a thing anymore. That happens a lot in Japan. |
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Post by Starshine on Apr 27, 2016 21:48:21 GMT -5
Chaos continuing to exist well past the point where it's even really a thing anymore. That happens a lot in Japan. I really don't think it happens as much as some say it does. At least not to this extent. They're barely presented as a group as it is. They have almost no merch sold, no unit theme, and no real fleshed out reason to allign with one another. It's just a bunch of dudes who tag with one another in forgettable six man tag matches then go off to do more important things on their own. |
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Apr 28, 2016 0:00:52 GMT -5
I like to see chaos as one of those MMA camps where a bunch of fighters reunite to train together, and since in wrestling tag matches are a thing, is normal to see them cooperating with fellow partners
I hate to see goto in chaos though, everytime that I see him on those tag matches I think of him as Okada's bitch
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 28, 2016 0:56:48 GMT -5
Khali and Giant Silva as a tag team.
Khali and Giant Silva feuding.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Apr 28, 2016 5:36:54 GMT -5
Khali and Giant Silva as a tag team. Khali and Giant Silva feuding. yar that'll replace the whale in me nightmares. |
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