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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 9, 2016 17:03:17 GMT -5
I don't "hate" cm-punk. He was good, however lacks that special something that would make him a Bryan, John Cena, The Rock, or any of those other special people. I find it annoying that his shtick is that he walked away because WWE didn't see him as good as those other people, instead of trying to stick it out to better him self. What? He was there nearly a decade and every time he got hot, they poured cold water over him to make sure he didn't catch fire, his hottest point was used to put over two semi retired wrestlers who didn't need it. They made it abundantly clear that he would always be on the tier below the guy and the guy they want to be the guy, even when they gave him the belt for a year he was not the focus, he was a place holder for the Rock, something that would sap anyone's enthusiasm. At the end of his run, he was beat up, incredibly sick and had been lied to again and again. He was never going to 'better himself' had he stuck it out, he was going to job to Triple H at Mania and be part of them doing the same thing to Bryan they did to him, that is if he didn't get hospital or die in a hotel room on the road from his severe infection because he didn't get proper medical care. Had he resigned with them and survived that, he'd be putting over Reigns on the house show loop, nowhere near their main event plans for 'mania, even with half the roster out with injuries, because Hunter needs it more, just like Hunter needed the rub after the summer of Punk. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 17:06:34 GMT -5
Because of CM Punk, I bought a $20 CM Punk t-shirt. Do you guys know what that means? It means I've spent $20 (without tax) on a shirt that I probably need to be acceptable in society, since we wear clothes, but now I don't have the $20 randomly lying around because surely I would have lost it. That means I can't do my "where's my $20" hunt through my apartment without using another $20.
Damn you CM Punk, damn you Phil Brooks.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Feb 9, 2016 17:08:04 GMT -5
Punk my boy. I relate to him a lot. But that includes the bad stuff. The SAME thought ran through my mind watching Danielsons speech last night. But as some have said..different circumstances. Different personalities. As someone who's very much like Punk...I strive to be like Bryan Danielson. Also. Yeah. I don't get the hate for Punk. Reminds me of the hate Rock gets. Regardless if y'all know it or not, I think on most cases (not all) it's basically "He left me" issues. How dare the Rock leave us and go to Hollywood and have fun becoming a major film star. What a prick!!  |
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Post by Lupin the Third on Feb 9, 2016 17:09:23 GMT -5
Because of CM Punk, I bought a $20 CM Punk t-shirt. Do you guys know what that means? It means I've spent $20 (without tax) on a shirt that I probably need to be acceptable in society, since we wear clothes, but now I don't have the $20 randomly lying around because surely I would have lost it. That means I can't do my "where's my $20" hunt through my apartment without using another $20. Damn you CM Punk, damn you Phil Brooks. In this instance you need to ask yourself, "What would Harley Race do?" Check in your couch. |
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Feb 9, 2016 17:10:33 GMT -5
Punk my boy. I relate to him a lot. But that includes the bad stuff. The SAME thought ran through my mind watching Danielsons speech last night. But as some have said..different circumstances. Different personalities. As someone who's very much like Punk...I strive to be like Bryan Danielson. Also. Yeah. I don't get the hate for Punk. Reminds me of the hate Rock gets. Regardless if y'all know it or not, I think on most cases (not all) it's basically "He left me" issues. How dare the Rock leave us and go to Hollywood and have fun becoming a major film star. What a prick!! The Rock is such a prick for having lots of fun every time he shows up for a guest spot in WWE. I hate him.  |
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Post by hargh on Feb 9, 2016 17:13:27 GMT -5
Because of CM Punk, I bought a $20 CM Punk t-shirt. Do you guys know what that means? It means I've spent $20 (without tax) on a shirt that I probably need to be acceptable in society, since we wear clothes, but now I don't have the $20 randomly lying around because surely I would have lost it. That means I can't do my "where's my $20" hunt through my apartment without using another $20. Damn you CM Punk, damn you Phil Brooks. In this instance you need to ask yourself, "What would Harley Race do?" Check in your couch. I'm guessing he'd leave it in the barrel of his gun. Then shock it with his taser. |
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Post by hossfan on Feb 9, 2016 17:31:17 GMT -5
A wildly irrational and emotional French guy, you say? There's probably someone  Michel would never let himself go like that. |
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Feb 9, 2016 17:40:02 GMT -5
I don't "hate" cm-punk. He was good, however lacks that special something that would make him a Bryan, John Cena, The Rock, or any of those other special people. I find it annoying that his shtick is that he walked away because WWE didn't see him as good as those other people, instead of trying to stick it out to better him self. What? He was there nearly a decade and every time he got hot, they poured cold water over him to make sure he didn't catch fire, his hottest point was used to put over two semi retired wrestlers who didn't need it. They made it abundantly clear that he would always be on the tier below the guy and the guy they want to be the guy, even when they gave him the belt for a year he was not the focus, he was a place holder for the Rock, something that would sap anyone's enthusiasm. At the end of his run, he was beat up, incredibly sick and had been lied to again and again. He was never going to 'better himself' had he stuck it out, he was going to job to Triple H at Mania and be part of them doing the same thing to Bryan they did to him, that is if he didn't get hospital or die in a hotel room on the road from his severe infection because he didn't get proper medical care. Had he resigned with them and survived that, he'd be putting over Reigns on the house show loop, nowhere near their main event plans for 'mania, even with half the roster out with injuries, because Hunter needs it more, just like Hunter needed the rub after the summer of Punk. According to Punk he was actually scheduled to go over HHH for once in that WM match, he just did not care anymore. I've not seen any indication that might not have been the plan either, so there's that. Having said that, I don't think Punk liked Hunter one bit and felt the feeling was mutual (and probably was, to be honest, because while it seems like Punk was a good friend to those select people he let in, even he admitted that he was hard to put up with, especially at the end). I think that after having two programs with Ryback Punk just had no interest in working with someone he actively disliked anymore. I think he lost faith in the company and no longer had an interest in putting his already injured body on the line for the company anymore. It also sounded like Vince was convinced that all Punk really needed was to take some time off to get healthy, after which he would return to the company refreshed and hungry. I think that after he realized that was not the case, he let Hunter handle the situation however he saw fit (and by that I mean in as petty a manner as one can possibly imagine). |
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Post by unc40 on Feb 9, 2016 17:44:58 GMT -5
How dare the Rock leave us and go to Hollywood and have fun becoming a major film star. What a prick!! The Rock is such a prick for having lots of fun every time he shows up for a guest spot in WWE. I hate him. I wonder if the Rock would have thought it was all in good fun if a wrestler would have cut a promo calling the Rock's mom a two timing slut. |
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Post by Lupin the Third on Feb 9, 2016 17:45:59 GMT -5
How dare the Rock leave us and go to Hollywood and have fun becoming a major film star. What a prick!! The Rock is such a prick for having lots of fun every time he shows up for a guest spot in WWE. I hate him. Man, what a dick!! |
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Post by joeiscool on Feb 9, 2016 17:48:53 GMT -5
I don't "hate" cm-punk. He was good, however lacks that special something that would make him a Bryan, John Cena, The Rock, or any of those other special people. I find it annoying that his shtick is that he walked away because WWE didn't see him as good as those other people, instead of trying to stick it out to better him self. What? He was there nearly a decade and every time he got hot, they poured cold water over him to make sure he didn't catch fire, his hottest point was used to put over two semi retired wrestlers who didn't need it. They made it abundantly clear that he would always be on the tier below the guy and the guy they want to be the guy, even when they gave him the belt for a year he was not the focus, he was a place holder for the Rock, something that would sap anyone's enthusiasm. At the end of his run, he was beat up, incredibly sick and had been lied to again and again. He was never going to 'better himself' had he stuck it out, he was going to job to Triple H at Mania and be part of them doing the same thing to Bryan they did to him, that is if he didn't get hospital or die in a hotel room on the road from his severe infection because he didn't get proper medical care. Had he resigned with them and survived that, he'd be putting over Reigns on the house show loop, nowhere near their main event plans for 'mania, even with half the roster out with injuries, because Hunter needs it more, just like Hunter needed the rub after the summer of Punk. That's my point. No matter where people like John Cena, and DB are in the card they will give 100%. When Cena had lost the belt to Brock, he busted his butt added a ton of moves to his repertoire, and had a great feud with Kevin Owens. When DB came back to WWE after injury, and wasn't given a title shot(he probably deserved) he said he was going to work to make SMACKDOWN the better show. When Punk is not on top he kinda gets skinny fat, and from the newz sites turns into a diva. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 9, 2016 18:13:41 GMT -5
What? He was there nearly a decade and every time he got hot, they poured cold water over him to make sure he didn't catch fire, his hottest point was used to put over two semi retired wrestlers who didn't need it. They made it abundantly clear that he would always be on the tier below the guy and the guy they want to be the guy, even when they gave him the belt for a year he was not the focus, he was a place holder for the Rock, something that would sap anyone's enthusiasm. At the end of his run, he was beat up, incredibly sick and had been lied to again and again. He was never going to 'better himself' had he stuck it out, he was going to job to Triple H at Mania and be part of them doing the same thing to Bryan they did to him, that is if he didn't get hospital or die in a hotel room on the road from his severe infection because he didn't get proper medical care. Had he resigned with them and survived that, he'd be putting over Reigns on the house show loop, nowhere near their main event plans for 'mania, even with half the roster out with injuries, because Hunter needs it more, just like Hunter needed the rub after the summer of Punk. That's my point. No matter where people like John Cena, and DB are in the card they will give 100%. When Cena had lost the belt to Brock, he busted his butt added a ton of moves to his repertoire, and had a great feud with Kevin Owens. When DB came back to WWE after injury, and wasn't given a title shot(he probably deserved) he said he was going to work to make SMACKDOWN the better show. When Punk is not on top he kinda gets skinny fat, and from the newz sites turns into a diva. It's easy for Cena to maintain a positive outlook because he has never been in a position where he has to fear for his place on the card and has never been mistreated the way Punk and Bryan had, they've never set out to sabotage Cena for the benefit of others, he's usually the one who's booked to cut other people off at the knees. Daniel Bryan was on the WWE roster half the time Punk was and was shelved by injury before they had a chance to cut his legs out from under him the way they did Punk in 2011, lets not forget the Authority cr*pfest was going to continue and his next big opponent was a 10 years past his prime Kane with Roman Reigns intended to be the future face of the company, Bryan or not. Punk is always 'skinny fat' as some people are built that way and he maintains his look without substances and painkillers which doesn't help, and according to news sites, everyone has HEATZ with management, because you can't walk a hallway without upsetting them somehow so I wouldn't take their word for him being a Diva. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 9, 2016 18:19:12 GMT -5
What? He was there nearly a decade and every time he got hot, they poured cold water over him to make sure he didn't catch fire, his hottest point was used to put over two semi retired wrestlers who didn't need it. They made it abundantly clear that he would always be on the tier below the guy and the guy they want to be the guy, even when they gave him the belt for a year he was not the focus, he was a place holder for the Rock, something that would sap anyone's enthusiasm. At the end of his run, he was beat up, incredibly sick and had been lied to again and again. He was never going to 'better himself' had he stuck it out, he was going to job to Triple H at Mania and be part of them doing the same thing to Bryan they did to him, that is if he didn't get hospital or die in a hotel room on the road from his severe infection because he didn't get proper medical care. Had he resigned with them and survived that, he'd be putting over Reigns on the house show loop, nowhere near their main event plans for 'mania, even with half the roster out with injuries, because Hunter needs it more, just like Hunter needed the rub after the summer of Punk. According to Punk he was actually scheduled to go over HHH for once in that WM match, he just did not care anymore. I've not seen any indication that might not have been the plan either, so there's that. Having said that, I don't think Punk liked Hunter one bit and felt the feeling was mutual (and probably was, to be honest, because while it seems like Punk was a good friend to those select people he let in, even he admitted that he was hard to put up with, especially at the end). I think that after having two programs with Ryback Punk just had no interest in working with someone he actively disliked anymore. I think he lost faith in the company and no longer had an interest in putting his already injured body on the line for the company anymore. It also sounded like Vince was convinced that all Punk really needed was to take some time off to get healthy, after which he would return to the company refreshed and hungry. I think that after he realized that was not the case, he let Hunter handle the situation however he saw fit (and by that I mean in as petty a manner as one can possibly imagine). Triple H has said that he found Punk difficult to deal with and that he was always in a bad mood even when people were giving in to him. Either way, Punk has rubbed a lot of people in his career the wrong way. Just his personality. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 9, 2016 19:00:21 GMT -5
Triple H has said that he found Punk difficult to deal with and that he was always in a bad mood even when people were giving in to him. Either way, Punk has rubbed a lot of people in his career the wrong way. Just his personality. As had Triple H, there are plenty of former writers and wrestlers with very little positive to say about him, nine times out of ten you don't get anywhere in the WWE by being nice to everyone. |
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Post by Crimson on Feb 9, 2016 19:36:45 GMT -5
That's my point. No matter where people like John Cena, and DB are in the card they will give 100%. When Cena had lost the belt to Brock, he busted his butt added a ton of moves to his repertoire, and had a great feud with Kevin Owens. When DB came back to WWE after injury, and wasn't given a title shot(he probably deserved) he said he was going to work to make SMACKDOWN the better show. When Punk is not on top he kinda gets skinny fat, and from the newz sites turns into a diva. It's easy for Cena to maintain a positive outlook because he has never been in a position where he has to fear for his place on the card and has never been mistreated the way Punk and Bryan had, they've never set out to sabotage Cena for the benefit of others, he's usually the one who's booked to cut other people off at the knees. Going to have to jump in there because, even though it's been while, Cena was very much in the same position that your Daniel Bryan's and Dean Ambrose's were and/or are in. Where he was crazy popular and yet he would get booked into losing feuds to guys like Benoit, and Lesnar, and Taker. I know it's been a long time since Cena has been in this position, but this recent thing of Cena always being the golden boy who had all the booking in his favor from the getgo is a myth. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 9, 2016 20:03:50 GMT -5
It's easy for Cena to maintain a positive outlook because he has never been in a position where he has to fear for his place on the card and has never been mistreated the way Punk and Bryan had, they've never set out to sabotage Cena for the benefit of others, he's usually the one who's booked to cut other people off at the knees. Going to have to jump in there because, even though it's been while, Cena was very much in the same position that your Daniel Bryan's and Dean Ambrose's were and/or are in. Where he was crazy popular and yet he would get booked into losing feuds to guys like Benoit, and Lesnar, and Taker. I know it's been a long time since Cena has been in this position, but this recent thing of Cena always being the golden boy who had all the booking in his favor from the getgo is a myth. His first match on the main roster was a close contest with Kurt Angle, he got a show of respect from the Udnertaker afterward. He then went into a feud with former World Champion Chris Jericho, tagged with then turned on Kidman in a short period of time and became the heel rapper then went into a feud with World Champion Brock Lesnar within a year of his debut. He lost the feud because he wasn't at the point he could carry the company, that wasn't a burial, that was a pretty solid push followed by a spell in the upper midcard consolidating his position before he received the big win, something they should have done with Reigns. He may not have been the guy they wanted to carry the company but they always had big plans for him and protected him more than others who came up around the same time. |
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Feb 9, 2016 20:14:18 GMT -5
Punk's not the kind of guy you'd have a beer with, that's for sure.
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Post by percymania on Feb 9, 2016 20:15:03 GMT -5
I'm certain Punk will come back to WWE after his UFC stint. I can't hate the man for trying to get a better gig.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Feb 9, 2016 20:23:02 GMT -5
Going to have to jump in there because, even though it's been while, Cena was very much in the same position that your Daniel Bryan's and Dean Ambrose's were and/or are in. Where he was crazy popular and yet he would get booked into losing feuds to guys like Benoit, and Lesnar, and Taker. I know it's been a long time since Cena has been in this position, but this recent thing of Cena always being the golden boy who had all the booking in his favor from the getgo is a myth. His first match on the main roster was a close contest with Kurt Angle, he got a show of respect from the Udnertaker afterward. He then went into a feud with former World Champion Chris Jericho, tagged with then turned on Kidman in a short period of time and became the heel rapper then went into a feud with World Champion Brock Lesnar within a year of his debut. He lost the feud because he wasn't at the point he could carry the company, that wasn't a burial, that was a pretty solid push followed by a spell in the upper midcard consolidating his position before he received the big win, something they should have done with Reigns. He then spent the next decade being protected at all costs. There was a time he was floundering, and he definitely gor himself over (and salvaged his career according to Steph) but like Roman, they're wanted him to be the guy since day one. |
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Post by Starshine on Feb 9, 2016 20:42:40 GMT -5
His first match on the main roster was a close contest with Kurt Angle, he got a show of respect from the Udnertaker afterward. He then went into a feud with former World Champion Chris Jericho, tagged with then turned on Kidman in a short period of time and became the heel rapper then went into a feud with World Champion Brock Lesnar within a year of his debut. He lost the feud because he wasn't at the point he could carry the company, that wasn't a burial, that was a pretty solid push followed by a spell in the upper midcard consolidating his position before he received the big win, something they should have done with Reigns. He then spent the next decade being protected at all costs. There was a time he was floundering, and he definitely gor himself over (and salvaged his career according to Steph) but like Roman, they're wanted him to be the guy since day one. They really wanted Orton to be their top guy. Cena was their consolation prize, and ended up a much better choice in the long run. There's no doubt they saw him as a main eventer around 2003, but they were building the throne for Orton for a long while before they looked at Cena that way. |
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