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Post by wildojinx on Feb 9, 2016 15:52:33 GMT -5
It's inevitable that we're getting Reigns as champ come Wrestlemania, but is there any way to prevent fan revolt, or is it just a lost cause and they should replace him with Ambrose or Brock?
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Feb 9, 2016 15:54:23 GMT -5
I'll be that guy.
"Heel turn".
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 9, 2016 15:55:07 GMT -5
I'll be that guy. "Heel turn". Honestly, running with Reigns as the corporate approved champion would be over like gangbusters. I mean we all know he's the corporate approved guy... RUN WITH IT. |
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Post by kevin on Feb 9, 2016 16:01:49 GMT -5
He doesn't need any Salvaging. He should keep doing exactly what he is doing. he is insanely entertaining and the people who hate him will hate him no matter what he does.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 16:02:34 GMT -5
Reigns going heel not only would savage this whole "is Reigns ready to be that guy" thing but it would also allow Reigns to be himself, give his character more depth, allow more fans to be invested in his angles and it also would make the WWE Championship picture be less predictable. It also gives him more guys to work with, allows him to really control the audience given as a heel you're allowed to do more and more importantly, more than anything, it would be the company playing off the crowd reaction and if they go with Reigns as the corporate champion, it allows them to do what they do best in angles and that's play off of real life. It's sad because everything can easily be solved if they make one turn but they're too stubborn at times. He doesn't need any Salvaging. He should keep doing exactly what he is doing. he is insanely entertaining and the people who hate him will hate him no matter what he does. This. Is. Not. True. |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 9, 2016 16:28:51 GMT -5
Reigns going heel not only would savage this whole "is Reigns ready to be that guy" thing but it would also allow Reigns to be himself, give his character more depth, allow more fans to be invested in his angles and it also would make the WWE Championship picture be less predictable. It also gives him more guys to work with, allows him to really control the audience given as a heel you're allowed to do more and more importantly, more than anything, it would be the company playing off the crowd reaction and if they go with Reigns as the corporate champion, it allows them to do what they do best in angles and that's play off of real life. It's sad because everything can easily be solved if they make one turn but they're too stubborn at times. It would work as long as he wasn't just being yet another stooge for QUEEN DONG, The Steph Infection. |
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Post by andrew8798 on Feb 9, 2016 16:31:52 GMT -5
So you want him to be the #3 heel in the company
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Post by edgehead on Feb 9, 2016 16:34:01 GMT -5
Turn him heel. There isn't even a worry about who the top guy would be to replace him, because Ambrose is getting monster pops in this current feud and last night, Reigns played the 3rd wheel.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 16:36:54 GMT -5
He doesn't need any Salvaging. He should keep doing exactly what he is doing. he is insanely entertaining and the people who hate him will hate him no matter what he does. Most people don't hate Roman Reigns. They hate the presentation of Roman Reigns. Like most people who "hate" John Cena usually will argue the presentation of him is the thing they have the most disdain. Frankly, other than upping the stakes (like a permanent[!] dissolution of the Authority at WrestleMania if Roman wins) or at least give Roman some more seasoning as a heel, there's not a lot I can think of. They have him a badass one week, and they have him owned and being a chuckler the following. The presentation is schizophrenic. |
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Feb 9, 2016 16:37:56 GMT -5
He doesn't need any Salvaging. He should keep doing exactly what he is doing. [Reigns] is insanely entertaining and the people who hate him will hate him no matter what he does. I remember talking about gross exaggerations on FAN around the time of the Rumble and I think this whopper just took the crown. |
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Post by Prince Petty on Feb 9, 2016 16:46:41 GMT -5
It's already been spelled out here. He's the chosen one of Vince and co, and the fans know it. Presenting him as this anti-corporate underdog will not ever fly. So just accept that and let him be what fans see him as: The heel corporate contender.
I already think they should have Ambrose win at Fastlane, sending Reigns on a path of anger and jealousy that leads to a heel turn at Wrestlemania. Hell, even have him win Money in the Bank, and cash in on Ambrose at Wrestlemania or the RAW the next night. Reigns' own cousin, The Rock, could probably point out to them that sometimes you need a heel turn to get over, and then you might just be able to turn that into megastardom.
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Post by cahuette on Feb 9, 2016 16:50:01 GMT -5
He doesn't need any Salvaging. He should keep doing exactly what he is doing. he is insanely entertaining and the people who hate him will hate him no matter what he does. A lot of them liked him before the crazy push, in a "yeah this guy is getting good, maybe he can start getting midcard runs" way, but they liked him. |
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Post by Hurbster on Feb 9, 2016 16:52:06 GMT -5
He's doing just fine.
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Post by saintpat on Feb 9, 2016 16:55:17 GMT -5
He doesn't need any Salvaging. He should keep doing exactly what he is doing. he is insanely entertaining and the people who hate him will hate him no matter what he does. Most people don't hate Roman Reigns. They hate the presentation of Roman Reigns. Like most people who "hate" John Cena usually will argue the presentation of him is the thing they have the most disdain. What people argue and reality aren't always the same. When Bryan wasn't in the Royal Rumble (facing Wyatt instead), there were a ton of people who "argued" that they were OK with him not winning it, as long as he was just in it. That's all they were asking. A year later, he was in it and didn't win it ... and not one of those people said, "See, that's all I was asking. I'm satisfied." For YEARS, you couldn't go on this forum without finding posts and threads about "All I want is Cena out of the main event and out of the title picture." He's pretty much been out of both for the majority of the last couple of years. Find me a post that says, "Well, I'm OK with Cena in the midcard. That's cool with me." You see people argue that they want WWE to "create new stars" ... and when they try that with Roman, with Miz when he was in the WM main event, etc., they get rejected. People "argue" that they don't like Cena's booking, that he's too invulnerable, but when Punk is champion for 400-odd days and isn't booked that way, there's moaning; when Kevin Owens loses like two matches, there's more moaning. What people want, I'd "argue" ... is for THEIR guy to be pushed to the moon. And that's all that matters to them. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 16:57:50 GMT -5
Most people don't hate Roman Reigns. They hate the presentation of Roman Reigns. Like most people who "hate" John Cena usually will argue the presentation of him is the thing they have the most disdain. What people argue and reality aren't always the same. When Bryan wasn't in the Royal Rumble (facing Wyatt instead), there were a ton of people who "argued" that they were OK with him not winning it, as long as he was just in it. That's all they were asking. A year later, he was in it and didn't win it ... and not one of those people said, "See, that's all I was asking. I'm satisfied." For YEARS, you couldn't go on this forum without finding posts and threads about "All I want is Cena out of the main event and out of the title picture." He's pretty much been out of both for the majority of the last couple of years. Find me a post that says, "Well, I'm OK with Cena in the midcard. That's cool with me." You see people argue that they want WWE to "create new stars" ... and when they try that with Roman, with Miz when he was in the WM main event, etc., they get rejected. People "argue" that they don't like Cena's booking, that he's too invulnerable, but when Punk is champion for 400-odd days and isn't booked that way, there's moaning; when Kevin Owens loses like two matches, there's more moaning.
What people want, I'd "argue" ... is for THEIR guy to be pushed to the moon. And that's all that matters to them.You have a bad argument then in that case because that's definitely not true. Some people are like that but not all, categorizing everybody in the same box is a horrible way to present others simply because what you believe differs from theirs. |
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Post by ANuclearError on Feb 9, 2016 16:59:29 GMT -5
Roman really needs a midcard title reign on his own I think. He should have had the IC after Bryan vacated it actually, using that to elevate both him and the title itself.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Feb 9, 2016 17:06:12 GMT -5
Let me put it in a way WWE creative can understand
MORE PUNCHY
LESS TALKY
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Feb 9, 2016 17:15:00 GMT -5
Most people don't hate Roman Reigns. They hate the presentation of Roman Reigns. Like most people who "hate" John Cena usually will argue the presentation of him is the thing they have the most disdain. For YEARS, you couldn't go on this forum without finding posts and threads about "All I want is Cena out of the main event and out of the title picture." He's pretty much been out of both for the majority of the last couple of years. Find me a post that says, "Well, I'm OK with Cena in the midcard. That's cool with me." That is a bold faced lie, or plain ignorance. There have been PLENTY of people on this forum alone who said they loved Cena's US Open challenge. Take this thread for example: officialfan.proboards.com/thread/531289/opinion-cena-title-open-challengeMore people liked it than didn't. Of course there is always going to be people who didn't like it, that's the beauty of different opinions. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 17:16:34 GMT -5
Let me put it in a way WWE creative can understand MORE PUNCHY LESS TALKY To quote Rev. Slick: Exacatively! Seriously... this is what they needed to do. I still believe that some people would not have turned violently against Reigns if he wasn't booked as John Cena's carbon copy. I mean, they did the exact same thing with Sheamus, and now I don't want anything to do with Sheamus. I don't want to have that kind of response to Roman like I do with Cena and Sheamus. |
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Post by domrep on Feb 9, 2016 17:19:52 GMT -5
Shades of grey. Steal Dean's pin at Fast Lane, win the match at Mania. He's going to get booed either way so why does it matter? Maybe run a program w/Ambrose that lasts a few months, at least until Seth comes back (assuming full health). He's never going to be a full blown heel, but he'll have enough heel tactics that would make him the heel against anyone.
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