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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 8:04:53 GMT -5
Wow. Taker really, really wants to go heel, doesn't he? Maybe the next avenue he should consider is starting to use a spear and yell HOOOO-AAAAAAH.
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Post by celtics543 on Feb 23, 2016 8:16:49 GMT -5
The part of this angle that makes no sense and still won't make sense even if Shane names a replacement is that the Undertaker is going to fight FOR the authority. He's been above the entire angle for its entire run and now he's going to be a part of it? The guy who might be the biggest babyface on the roster is going to fight so the authority can stay in power? Is Shane McMahon really going to be put over the Undertaker at Wrestlemania? Is there ANY chance Taker gets booed in Texas in front of 100,000 people?
This match makes zero sense. If they had picked Sheamus or Rusev or someone like that then I could understand it because they are all authority henchmen and would want them to remain in power but Undertaker makes zero sense. People keep saying that Shane could have a good match with him but let's remember, Shane ISN'T a wrestler and his "matches" are really just him falling off high things or getting thrown through things. He could do that at 30 years old and rebound to be ok but it's been a while and he's a 46 year old father of three who runs a business empire over in China now. I understand Vince was having big matches like this at that age but Vince is also certifiably insane and works himself as hard as possible every day. Shane doesn't look like he's followed in his dad's footsteps as far as incredible workout regimen and juicing to the gills is concerned.
Overall this match makes zero sense for Undertaker and will probably be a disaster from just about every standpoint. I love that Shane came back and I loved 99% of the angle they built about how the WWE was really his birthright and that he was still in line in front of Stephanie to inherit it. I've wanted that angle every since the Authority stuff began but the last 2 minutes of that promo where Vince told him he was wrestling the Undertaker at Wrestlemania is where everything went straight off the rails.
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Post by Soultastic on Feb 23, 2016 8:19:00 GMT -5
So, Shane wants control, but only of Raw. Brand split incoming?
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Post by Shane's Dad Dancing on Feb 23, 2016 8:22:51 GMT -5
If Shane does end up wrestling in that match then I bet you anything Stephanie is going to try to intervene then Ronda Rousey will come out and kick her ass. I'd pay to see that.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 23, 2016 8:51:57 GMT -5
It just feels like it's not going to happen. I could be wrong, but this feels too much like one of those crazy angles that someone books in TEW/EWR or something. Why is Taker fighting for Vince? I get the real-life loyalty, but there's never been any of that on screen. It would have been better to inject Shane into the HHH/Reigns match so that you have Reigns w/Shane vs. Hunter w/Vince. That, then, makes a little more sense at least. I'm presuming that at the contract signing, Shane gets knocked down and Cena comes out and signs his name on the dotted line and everyone freaks out.
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Post by Shane's Dad Dancing on Feb 23, 2016 9:11:20 GMT -5
It just feels like it's not going to happen. I could be wrong, but this feels too much like one of those crazy angles that someone books in TEW/EWR or something. Why is Taker fighting for Vince? I get the real-life loyalty, but there's never been any of that on screen. It would have been better to inject Shane into the HHH/Reigns match so that you have Reigns w/Shane vs. Hunter w/Vince. That, then, makes a little more sense at least. I'm presuming that at the contract signing, Shane gets knocked down and Cena comes out and signs his name on the dotted line and everyone freaks out. I guess this is supposed to show that Vince has ultimate power in the WWE so he even has control over Undertaker's career on-screen. Perhaps, in some way, they're trying to introduce a Taker heel turn
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 23, 2016 9:26:16 GMT -5
It just feels like it's not going to happen. I could be wrong, but this feels too much like one of those crazy angles that someone books in TEW/EWR or something. Why is Taker fighting for Vince? I get the real-life loyalty, but there's never been any of that on screen. It would have been better to inject Shane into the HHH/Reigns match so that you have Reigns w/Shane vs. Hunter w/Vince. That, then, makes a little more sense at least. I'm presuming that at the contract signing, Shane gets knocked down and Cena comes out and signs his name on the dotted line and everyone freaks out. I guess this is supposed to show that Vince has ultimate power in the WWE so he even has control over Undertaker's career on-screen. Perhaps, in some way, they're trying to introduce a Taker heel turn Yeah, a totally a valid point, it just seems bizarre that they'd utilize Taker in this fashion. There's been no precedent for him ever really involving himself in this generation of "corporation" storyline. Guess there's always a place to start!
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 23, 2016 9:29:12 GMT -5
So, Shane wants control, but only of Raw. Brand split incoming? I still say he should have asked for Smackdown since Vince would have chuckled and said ok. Then he could rename it WCW Nitro to piss Vince off. Then he'd sneeze in front of him a few times.
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Post by Heinz Doofenschmirtz on Feb 23, 2016 9:55:00 GMT -5
Here's how I want this to work:
1) Shane wins and gets RAW 2) Steph and Haitch get Smackdown 3) Shane screws them out of all the talent so they're left with the Social Outcasts and their ilk. 4) Haitch re-stocks with NXT guys and gals. 5) Talent raids left, right, and centre.
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Post by CM Parish on Feb 23, 2016 10:51:47 GMT -5
That crazy bastard Shane is going to take a mankind-esque bump isn't he?
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Post by ZombieElvis on Feb 23, 2016 10:54:49 GMT -5
I think this is a set up to give Steph and HHH time off TV.
Shane wins the match and controls of Raw. In the main event Shane comes down to watch and near the end of the match helps Reigns beat HHH. Corporate Roman and Shane rule Raw.
HHH/Steph take time off and give control of Smackdown to their worst enemy..... Daniel Bryan! Think WWEnWo but not terrible. During his table for 3 Daniel talked about wanting to only work SD as IC champ and this could let him play that out in a way. If they don't want another brand split just make Daniel commissioner to keep Shane in check.
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Post by Session Moth is over on Feb 23, 2016 11:10:56 GMT -5
I'm excited for this. If it turns out to be a swerve I'll be annoyed.
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Post by Andy Martin on Feb 23, 2016 11:10:55 GMT -5
That crazy bastard Shane is going to take a mankind-esque bump isn't he? Oh it's coming. And it WILL be cringeworthy.
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Post by Cieto on Feb 23, 2016 11:19:10 GMT -5
I'M still in the mind that it's a build to something else. Everything down to the weird storyline, to their mania graphics card (compared to HHH/Roman's) tells me this.
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Post by Dang! on Feb 23, 2016 11:27:40 GMT -5
I think I'll skip Wrestlemania. Succotash vs. Levesque and a lemon party as main events? I am absolutely not interested right now.
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Post by Grand Papillon "The Banker" on Feb 23, 2016 11:45:34 GMT -5
I think this is what may happen
Shane had to agree to a match against one person on one night. He did. He fulfilled his end.
Taker will be the one to refuse the match and will side with Shane. Therefore Shane will be set up to take control. Vince will get desperate and demand to name another opponent, Shane will agree only if undertaker fights Vince's guy instead of him. Both sides will agree. Vince's man is a secret until Wrestlemania.
It is Cena
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 23, 2016 11:47:11 GMT -5
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Post by Kalmia on Feb 23, 2016 11:49:14 GMT -5
I hope that all of the plotholes/points of intrigue (delete as applicable) in this angle are things that will be revealed and explained over the next few weeks and not just actual plotholes.
Because at the moment it makes no sense at all.
I like Shane though, always have. The only McMahon with an actual babyface gene.
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Post by Viking Hall on Feb 23, 2016 11:52:05 GMT -5
One way this could work in terms of making sense is this being Takers retirement match. Next week he confronts Vince saying something along the lines of that he doesn't remember agreeing to this match and that Vince will have to find someone else to do his dirty work. Vince tells him he has no choice, he's the boss, blah blah blah, he owns Undertaker etc. However, he then says that if The Undertaker wins he will grant him his freedom and will allow the Deadman to Rest in Peace. This gives Taker the incentive to fight, without being a stooge and without turning heel. Chuck Kane into the mix at Mania for sentimental reasons, Taker wins, he can retire in peace, Shane can go back to his real life, Wrestlemania gets its big moment.
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Post by warriorthug4edge on Feb 23, 2016 11:53:15 GMT -5
I think this is what may happen Shane had to agree to a match against one person on one night. He did. He fulfilled his end. Taker will be the one to refuse the match and will side with Shane. Therefore Shane will be set up to take control. Vince will get desperate and demand to name another opponent, Shane will agree only if undertaker fights Vince's guy instead of him. Both sides will agree. Vince's man is a secret until Wrestlemania. It is Cena This makes sense--although frankly, corporate heel Cena building up the 'Taker match would be fantastic.
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