Nintendo Fires Alison Rapp

[Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast]

mynintendonews.com/2016/03/30/nintendo-has-let-go-nintendo-treehouses-alison-rapp/



I know that GG is currently a hot button topic, so hopefully we can keep this civil.

The saddest thing is that Rapp had nothing to do with what GG targeted her over, primarily the censorship in Xenoblade Chronicles X



Edit: Removing the Gamergate in the title since there are conflicting reports on the real reason.

Nintendo's Official Response.

Mar 30, 2016 19:56:03 GMT -5 Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast said:

NOA's reasoning

[Alice Syndrome]

You defend Paedophillia, you get fired. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[OGBoardPoster2005]

Mar 30, 2016 17:08:30 GMT -5 Alice Syndrome said:

You defend Paedophillia, you get fired. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Huh?

[Alice Syndrome]

Mar 30, 2016 17:09:47 GMT -5 OGBoardPoster2005 said:

Mar 30, 2016 17:08:30 GMT -5 Alice Syndrome said:

You defend Paedophillia, you get fired. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Huh?

All the tweets from her in the following video are on her official twitter account, which she uses as part of her job at Nintendo.

Have a personal account for your views if you want, but don't list your employer, a Japanese children's entertainment company, on a twitter where you epouse views calling for more lenient child porn laws in Japan.



Also, some screenshots in video contain swear words. So content warning I guess

[OGBoardPoster2005]

Mar 30, 2016 17:12:00 GMT -5 Alice Syndrome said:

Mar 30, 2016 17:09:47 GMT -5 OGBoardPoster2005 said:

Huh?

Yeah....no

[HMARK Center]

Wait, this basement-dwelling nonsense is STILL going on?

[Alice Syndrome]

Mar 30, 2016 17:26:57 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Wait, this basement-dwelling nonsense is STILL going on?

No, Gamergate drafted out a long time ago, after most people agreed it got overrun by people using it as an excuse to hate on women (after the original bunch of people already got nowhere with their issues, going against an arguably corrupt industry and their corrupt media will just get you branded as a hate group outright)

The main reddit used (KotakuInAction) actively banned discussion on her last month

[Apricots And A Pear Tree]

Mar 30, 2016 17:12:00 GMT -5 Alice Syndrome said:

I blacked out at the phrase "Social Justice Hate Mob"
What day is it?

[HMARK Center]

Mar 30, 2016 17:35:38 GMT -5 Alice Syndrome said:

Mar 30, 2016 17:26:57 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Wait, this basement-dwelling nonsense is STILL going on?

No, Gamergate drafted out a long time ago, after most people agreed it got overrun by people using it as an excuse to hate on women (after the original bunch of people already got nowhere with their issues, going against an arguably corrupt industry and their corrupt media will just get you branded as a hate group outright)

The main reddit used (KotakuInAction) actively banned discussion on her last month

Not for nothing, but the originators of the whole thing got outed for using "fix the industry" as a smokescreen for woman-bashing quite awhile ago. If this woman did something legitimately bad then it makes sense, but I genuinely hope this has nothing to do with whining over localization writing.

[Alice Syndrome]

Mar 30, 2016 17:41:34 GMT -5 Apricots And A Pear Tree said:

Mar 30, 2016 17:12:00 GMT -5 Alice Syndrome said:

I blacked out at the phrase "Social Justice Hate Mob"
What day is it?

The point was her unacceptable tweets on an account used for business at a $20 billion dollar company, with their name listed on the bio. You wanna say child porn should be less restricted on a private account? Freedom of speech. I'll think you're a piece of crap but I'm not hunting down your employer.

I think Kevin Dunn should be kicked in the face for crimes against TV production, but I wouldn't say it on an account attached to my job. 

[Clover Star]

Mar 30, 2016 17:08:30 GMT -5 Alice Syndrome said:

You defend Paedophillia, you get fired. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

she did nothing of the sort. that was a gamergate-invented lie. also, videos made by gamergaters are not reliable sources.

[Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast]

[Rudy Gobert Fadeaway]

when Gamergate still exists

[Alice Syndrome]

Mar 30, 2016 17:51:19 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Mar 30, 2016 17:35:38 GMT -5 Alice Syndrome said:

No, Gamergate drafted out a long time ago, after most people agreed it got overrun by people using it as an excuse to hate on women (after the original bunch of people already got nowhere with their issues, going against an arguably corrupt industry and their corrupt media will just get you branded as a hate group outright)

The main reddit used (KotakuInAction) actively banned discussion on her last month

Not for nothing, but the originators of the whole thing got outed for using "fix the industry" as a smokescreen for woman-bashing quite awhile ago. If this woman did something legitimately bad then it makes sense, but I genuinely hope this has nothing to do with whining over localization writing.

It was cyclical at first. The first few people were up for "hey, this girl cheated on her boyfriend with 5 people, what a whore", then a load of people were like "wait, this Kotaku reviewer had sex with a game dev a week after writing a review of her game, what gives?" (I was in this group, in case anyone was wondering), then Anita jumped to her defense and there were the "shut up bitch" crowd, and then "So where's the rest of the videos you promised would be released over a year ago, and why do you keep lying in them?", then actual mysoginists looking for their excuse to jump on a well known feminist, then the cycle repeated ad nauseum until the actual campaign groups realised it was getting nowhere and gave up.

of course the gaming sites they were going against would never report on the good cycles, or the actual good things GG (eg money for charity) were doing, or the shitty things AGG were doing (eg harassing TotalBiscuit and saying they hoped his cancer goes terminal), or the existence of women in the movement like ShoeOnHead, so an outsider's view of GG would just be.... basement dwelling neckbeards as stated above.

[Aboutreika18]

Gamergate.

[Dub H]

We don`t even know the reasons she got fired.

After a year of everything being blamde on GamerGate(from both sides),which is barely even active now, I find hard to believe.

Then again, people are fired all the time from the itnernet from hate mobs.

[Apricots And A Pear Tree]

kotaku.com/the-ugly-new-front-in-the-neverending-video-game-cultur-1762942381

Over time, as it became obvious that Nintendo was removing some of the sexualized content from their games as they brought them to America, angry gamers looked for someone to blame and started pointing fingers at Rapp. Those efforts intensified even more in recent weeks with the discovery of a college essay she wrote in 2011 while attending Augsburg College. It’s called “Speech We Hate: An Argument for the Cessation of International Pressure on Japan to Strengthen Its Anti-Child Pornography Laws.” It’s a provocative essay about a deeply sensitive subject and is more nuanced than its detractors portray. Rapp outlines a deep cultural divide between Japan and other countries, pointing out Japan’s traditions of sexualizing young people and its free speech traditions while contrasting them with Western efforts against child porn and what she saw as imperialist pressure by the West to get Japan to change its child porn laws. Rapp, clearly a respectful fan of Japanese culture, distinguishes between exploiting real-life children and the creation of fictionalized sexual material. At no point does she defend or advocate for the abuse of children, and in fact argues for stronger laws against child exploitation.

Tweets she made around the same time that are related to the topic have also been part of the campaign against her, as is the norm when people are targeted as Rapp has been. There’s a vague one, for example, where she’s upset about the arrest of a man found with child pornography after burglars robbed him and tipped off police. The context isn’t entirely clear, but she directs people to her paper, which criticizes the West’s disproportionate effort in tracking down exploitative media compared to identifying the systemic issues causing their creation.

Rapp’s essay isn’t perfect and her tweets suggest she was, at least years ago, someone more comfortable with the ideas of teens being seen as sex objects than the average American might be. But, no shit: it’s an essay written by a young college student who was very into Japanese culture, where societal standards are different. The basic premise of her essay says Japan should be allowed to define its own cultural boundaries and not bow to the pressures of outside forces. Ironically, while Rapp has become a symbol of the supposedly nefarious social justice warriors censoring Japanese games, she’s being attacked with an essay in which she argued that Japanese culture should stay Japanese.

[Clover Star]

of course the gaming sites they were going against would never report on the good cycles, or the actual good things GG (eg money for charity) were doing

said charities refused said donations, actually, because they didn't want money from known bullies.

or the shitty things AGG were doing (eg harassing TotalBiscuit and saying they hoped his cancer goes terminal)

huh, every anti-GG person I know of (including myself) want him to kick cancer's ass.

[Dub H]

Yeah,i would take anything Kotaku with a grain of salt.Call gamergate anything you want,Kotaku is still garbage.

[Dub H]

Mar 30, 2016 18:18:08 GMT -5 Clover Star said:

or the shitty things AGG were doing (eg harassing TotalBiscuit and saying they hoped his cancer goes terminal)

huh, every anti-GG person I know of (including myself) want him to kick cancer's ass.

Welcome to the gamergate cycle

Both sides are like that

But everyone i know from my X including me did(didn't) X.