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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 11, 2016 12:36:54 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, looks like my three favorite North American television match of the year (Adam Cole vs. Shinsuke Nakamura, ACH vs Matt Sydal, The Addiction vs The Kingdom) didn't make the list. I did like Cole/Nakamura. Don't believe I saw the other two. Also, if anyone is interested, the reason I can remember all of this for a list is because I have a rather large spreadsheet full of all of the star ratings I've officially given out so far. Over 3000 matches are included and I could email it to anyone that would like to take a look.
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Post by chazraps on May 11, 2016 12:47:35 GMT -5
How many years have you done this?
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 11, 2016 15:01:32 GMT -5
How many years have you done this? This was my first full year doing reviews and such. 2015 and 2016 are there in full, and I've been filling in all past years sporadically.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 12, 2016 6:58:55 GMT -5
2. IWGP Intercontinental Championship: Shinsuke Nakamura (c) vs. Kota Ibushi – NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 9 | | I don’t give out the perfect five star rating often. I only did so twice this year and less than twenty times in history. On my first night of watching New Japan Pro Wrestling, I knew I had seen a five star match. Shinsuke Nakamura, one of the top guys in New Japan and the reigning IWGP Intercontinental Champion, went up against the young upstart, Kota Ibushi in the co-main event. I mean, Ibushi is 33 so he’s not that young but he’s still a guy that hadn’t been given many major opportunities like this. This entire match is absolutely phenomenal. It goes for 20:12, but you wouldn’t think that. It flies by because you’re enjoying what you’re watching so well. There were other matches that I knew the build for and that added to things. In this match, I knew nothing about it coming in except that I had seen some Ibushi stuff from back in 2008. They captivated me and fully drew me in, even though I was watching with Japanese commentary. That is a testament to the ability of both men. Ibushi is brash, even stealing Nakamura’s moves at one point. Nakamura puts him in his place more than a few times, but is taken to his very limit. This has everything you could want. A great story, hard hitting action, close calls, incredibly athleticism at points, a big stage and more. It’s because of this match that I got into New Japan Pro Wrestling as much as I did. This is how you get someone over in a loss. Ibushi came out looking like a huge star on the biggest possible stage. It is one of the greatest matches I have ever seen. ***** |
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Post by Eunös ✈ on May 12, 2016 15:40:59 GMT -5
Looking at your list promotion wise (and obviously this does not include number 1 which you haven't mentioned yet ) 1. NJPW - 36 2. WWE - 17 3. ROH - 13 4. NXT -10 5. Lucha Underground - 8 6. Evolve - 5 7. PWG - 4 8. NOAH - 3 9. Dragon Gate - 2 10. RPW, TNA - 1 I hope I've done this right forgive me if I haven't.. My knowledge on wrestling company's isn't as great as some. Though NJPW has been the dominant Promotion on this list, though WWE has had a solid outing as well along with NXT. Guess Japan is the place to be if you love your wrestling Will try to list wrestler appearances somepoint but that is a little more time consuming and I'm out ATM -.-
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 12, 2016 18:50:40 GMT -5
Looking at your list promotion wise (and obviously this does not include number 1 which you haven't mentioned yet ) 1. NJPW - 35 2. WWE - 17 3. ROH - 13 4. NXT - 9 5. Lucha Underground - 8 6. Evolve - 5 7. PWG - 4 8. NOAH - 3 9. Dragon Gate - 2 10. RPW, TNA, IWGP - 1 I hope I've done this right forgive me if I haven't.. My knowledge on wrestling company's isn't as great as some. Though NJPW has been the dominant Promotion on this list, though WWE has had a solid outing as well along with NXT. Guess Japan is the place to be if you love your wrestling Will try to list wrestler appearances somepoint but that is a little more time consuming and I'm out ATM -.- Looks just about right to me thanks! The only thing I wonder is what match did you find "IWGP" for? That's the name of some NJPW Titles but not a promotion.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on May 12, 2016 19:05:00 GMT -5
My Mistake
Make that 36 for NJPW then ;D
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Post by Woo on May 12, 2016 20:42:15 GMT -5
The number 1 match on your list was amazing. I hope you don't go too overboard and say it's the best of its kind ever or something, but very good.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 12, 2016 20:47:13 GMT -5
1. NXT Women’s Championship: Sasha Banks (c) vs. Bayley – NXT TakeOver: Brooklyn 8/22/15 | | The women of NXT have continued to top themselves with almost every opportunity. Now, while I’m a massive fan of both girls, especially Sasha Banks, I originally didn’t want this match. I wanted to see Sasha/Becky II after their great match at Unstoppable. Bayley and Sasha absolutely blew my expectations out of the water. In front of the largest crowd in NXT history at the Barclays Center, Bayley and Banks were the co-main event and bested every performer on a loaded weekend. Right from the entrances, you could tell this would be special. The atmosphere in Brooklyn was insane as the crowd was red hot. Bayley’s entrance was a tribute to the late Dusty Rhodes, while Sasha channeled her inner Eddie Guerrero by arriving in an Escalade. The first part of this match sees Sasha talk trash and Bayley has to bring out the more aggressive side that we don’t usually see. When it progressed, Sasha vicious went after Bayley’s injured hand. It was some of the more brutal psychology I saw all year, including stomping on the hand and kicking it into the steel steps. Their exchanges and false finishes during this 18:15 encounter. Bayley survived the Bank Statement and Sasha kicked out of the Bayley to Belly. A top rope rana failed earlier in the match, but Bayley busted out a super reserve rana before scoring with a second Bayley to belly to win the title, capping an emotional roller coaster. Honestly, the number two match on this list is technically better, but this was about on par, with the added bonus of the other things that makes pro wrestling great. The emotional impact of the match was so strong that Seth Rollins was crying at ringside. Hell, I was even nearly moved to tears. Not only was this the greatest women’s match in WWE history, but it was also the most important, cementing it atop the list. ***** |
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Post by ronnie2hotty on May 13, 2016 5:17:23 GMT -5
Looking at your list promotion wise (and obviously this does not include number 1 which you haven't mentioned yet ) 1. NJPW - 36 2. WWE - 17 3. ROH - 13 4. NXT -10 5. Lucha Underground - 8 6. Evolve - 5 7. PWG - 4 8. NOAH - 3 9. Dragon Gate - 2 10. RPW, TNA - 1 I took that list one step farther and added up the star rating point value of each promotion. The point totals were, obviously, very reflective of how many matches each promotion had. 1) 152.25 points - NJPW (36 matches listed) 2) 69.5 points - WWE (17 matches listed) 3) 52.75 points - ROH (13 matches listed) 4) 42.25 points - NXT (10 matches listed) 5) 32.75 points - Lucha Underground (8 matches listed) 6) 21.75 points - Evolve (5 matches listed) 7) 16.75 points - PWG (4 matches listed) 8) 12.5 points - NOAH (3 matches listed) 9) 8.75 points - Dragon Gate (2 matches listed) 10) 4.5 points - TNA (1 match listed) 11) 4 points – RPW (1 match listed)
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Post by ronnie2hotty on May 13, 2016 5:21:35 GMT -5
A few more fun facts from the list.
I added up the star rating point values from each of the matches for every individual wrester and came up with a top 25:
1. AJ Styles = 46.5 points 2. Shinsuke Nakamura = 38.25 points 3. Kazuchika Okada = 37.75 points 4. Roderick Strong = 33.25 points 5. Kota Ibushi = 30.5 points 6. Zach Sabre Jr. = 29.5 points 7. Hiroshi Tanahashi = 25.75 points 8. Seth Rollins = 24.75 points 9. Sasha Banks = 22.25 points 10. John Cena = 21.25 points Katsuyori Shibata = 21.25 points 12. Kevin Owens = 21 points 13. Hirooki Goto = 20.5 points 14. Jay Lethal = 20.25 points 14. Kyle O'Reilly = 20.25 points 16. Timothy Thatcher = 17.25 points 17. Tomoaki Honma = 17 points 18. Kushida = 16.5 points Roman Reigns = 16.5 points 20. Ricochet/Prince Puma = 16.25 points Tetsya Naito = 16.25 points 22. Bayley = 13.75 points 23. Brock Lesnar = 12.75 points 24. Finn Balor = 12.5 points Michael Elgin = 12.25 points
I also added up the point value totals for every card. Here is the top 10:
1. NJPW Dominion (7/5/2015) - 16.75 points (4 matches listed) 2. NJPW Wrestle Kingdom (1/4/2015) - 13.75 points (3 matches listed) 3. NJPW G1 Climax (8/12/2015) - 13.25points (3 matches listed) 4. NXT Takeover: Rival (2/11/2015) - 12.75 points (3 matches listed) 5. WWE Wrestlemania 31 (3/29/2015) - 12 points (3 matches listed) 6. Lucha Underground Ultima Lucha (8/5/2015) - 11.75 points (3 matches listed) 7. NXT Takeover: Brooklyn (8/22/2015) – 9 points (2 matches listed) 8. Dragon Gate The Gate of Destiny (11/1/2015) - 8.75 points (2 matches listed) 9. ROH Final Battle (12/18/2015) - 8.5 points (2 matches listed) NJPW G1 Climax (7/20/2015) - 8.5 points (2 matches listed) NJPW G1 Climax (7/26/2015) - 8.5 points (2 matches listed) NJPW G1 Climax (8/16/2015) - 8.5 points (2 matches listed) ROH War of the Worlds (5/12/2015) - 8.5 points (2 matches listed)
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Post by Eunös ✈ on May 13, 2016 5:55:37 GMT -5
My hat off to you for doing this As I said earlier in this thread. I couldn't give you a Top 5 nevermind 100 Just been through all 100 Matches to see Appearances Please note there may be a few f*** ups on this list Specially with the Lucha Underground stuff. In total 112 Wrestlers (I believe) ended up on your list. btw thank you for pointing out when it was a Wrestlers last appearance, it made life a lot easier Just the 1 Showing {Spoiler} Minoru Suzuki Takashi Suigiura Shingo Takagi Masaaki Mochizuki Rockstar Spud Ethan Carter III Jason Strong Naomichi Marufuji Shelton X Benjamin Biff Busick Angelico Superfly Johnny Gargano Ultima Lucha El Mariachi Loco Sexy Star Mascarita Sagrada Chavo Guerrero Big Ryck Ricky Mandel Drago Pimpenla Escarlata King Cuerno Kazushi Sakuraba Fuji Nagata T-Hawk Masato Yoshino YAMATO Naruki Doi Kalisto Sin Cara Jey Uso Jimmy Uso Rusev Will Ospreay Marty Scurll Kenny Omega Roppongi Vice Nick Jackson Matt Jackson Alex Shelley Cage The Mack Karl Anderson Bray Wyatt YOSHI-HASHI Tyson Kidd The Undertaker Adam Page Tommaso Ciampa Jason Jordan Chad Gable Alberto El Patron Vampiro Taji Ishimimori Stardust Dolph Ziggler Luke Harper R-Truth Bad News Barrett
Making 2 Appearances {Spoiler} Ricochet Mil Muertes Fenix Becky Lynch Sami Zayn Adrian Nevillve Adam Cole Charlotte Chris Hero Bael Mr Cisco Cortez Castro Ivelisse Son of Havoc Jay Briscoe Kofi Kingston Xavier Woods Big E Togi Makabe Randy Orton Bobby Fish
3 Appearances {Spoiler} Bayley Brock Lesnar Michael Elgin Johnny Mundo Prince Puma Cesaro Finn Balor Pentagon Jr Daniel Bryan Dean Ambrose
and 4 {Spoiler} Timothy Thatcher Tomoaki Honma Roman Reigns Tetsuya Naito
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Post by Eunös ✈ on May 13, 2016 6:21:36 GMT -5
Top 10 I guess Although there are Actually 18 10. An 8 way Tie all appearning 5 Times on this list {Spoiler} Seth Rollins Sasha Banks John Cena Katsuyori Shiita Jay Lethal Kyle O'Reilly Kushia Hirooki Goto 8. A 2 way tie both appearing 6 Times. {Spoiler} Kevin Owens Hiroshi Tanahashi 5. A 3 way tie all of whom showed up 7 times. {Spoiler} Kota Ibushi Zack Sabre JR Tomohiro Ishi 4. All on his lonesome with 8 Appearances {Spoiler} Roderick Strong 2. A tie for Runners up spot both showing up 9 Times {Spoiler} Kazuchika Okada Shinsuke Nakamura And with 11 appearances on total, The Wrestler at Number 1 is. {Spoiler} AJ Styles Once again great list and I look forward to reading 2016's Just discovered that Zack Sabre JR is a local boy for me, From the Isle of Sheppey where I work. But yes.. Well done
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 13, 2016 6:46:45 GMT -5
Thanks for the all additional stats you guys have added here. It's awesome to read.
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Post by the2ndevil on May 13, 2016 7:39:58 GMT -5
So shocked and happy that Sasha/Bayley was the number one match.
Funny enough, the other day, Sasha's theme came up on Spotify, and her entrance for this match popped into my head. This was the definitive example of Sasha's The Boss character.
I have no memory of Seth Rollins crying during the aftermath of the match. But it was a fantastic match, and a well deserved number one.
Thank you for taking the time to do this list. I just wish I had more access to be able to watch more of them.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 13, 2016 7:43:26 GMT -5
So shocked and happy that Sasha/Bayley was the number one match. Funny enough, the other day, Sasha's theme came up on Spotify, and her entrance for this match popped into my head. This was the definitive example of Sasha's The Boss character. I have no memory of Seth Rollins crying during the aftermath of the match. But it was a fantastic match, and a well deserved number one. Thank you for taking the time to do this list. I just wish I had more access to be able to watch more of them. If there were any you were interested in, PM me and I could try to find them. A lot were available on dailymotion. Also, they showed Seth crying on the WWE: 24 about TakeOver: Brooklyn. I don't think it was caught on the actual show.
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Post by the2ndevil on May 13, 2016 7:50:37 GMT -5
So shocked and happy that Sasha/Bayley was the number one match. Funny enough, the other day, Sasha's theme came up on Spotify, and her entrance for this match popped into my head. This was the definitive example of Sasha's The Boss character. I have no memory of Seth Rollins crying during the aftermath of the match. But it was a fantastic match, and a well deserved number one. Thank you for taking the time to do this list. I just wish I had more access to be able to watch more of them. If there were any you were interested in, PM me and I could try to find them. A lot were available on dailymotion. Also, they showed Seth crying on the WWE: 24 about TakeOver: Brooklyn. I don't think it was caught on the actual show. Did not think to look on Dailymotion. WWE'S Cruiserweight Classic has really been my introduction to Zack Sabre Jr. and his appearances on this list sound very good. Have not watched the WWE:24 on the Brooklyn TakeOver, yet. Have been meaning to, though.
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Post by Woo on May 13, 2016 9:53:41 GMT -5
My hat off to you for doing this As I said earlier in this thread. I couldn't give you a Top 5 nevermind 100 Just been through all 100 Matches to see Appearances Please note there may be a few f*** ups on this list Specially with the Lucha Underground stuff. In total 112 Wrestlers (I believe) ended up on your list. btw thank you for pointing out when it was a Wrestlers last appearance, it made life a lot easier Just the 1 Showing {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Minoru Suzuki Takashi Suigiura Shingo Takagi Masaaki Mochizuki Rockstar Spud Ethan Carter III Jason Strong Naomichi Marufuji Shelton X Benjamin Biff Busick Angelico Superfly Johnny Gargano Ultima Lucha El Mariachi Loco Sexy Star Mascarita Sagrada Chavo Guerrero Big Ryck Ricky Mandel Drago Pimpenla Escarlata King Cuerno Kazushi Sakuraba Fuji Nagata T-Hawk Masato Yoshino YAMATO Naruki Doi Kalisto Sin Cara Jey Uso Jimmy Uso Rusev Will Ospreay Marty Scurll Kenny Omega Roppongi Vice Nick Jackson Matt Jackson Alex Shelley Cage The Mack Karl Anderson Bray Wyatt YOSHI-HASHI Tyson Kidd The Undertaker Adam Page Tommaso Ciampa Jason Jordan Chad Gable Alberto El Patron Vampiro Taji Ishimimori Stardust Dolph Ziggler Luke Harper R-Truth Bad News Barrett
Making 2 Appearances {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Ricochet Mil Muertes Fenix Becky Lynch Sami Zayn Adrian Nevillve Adam Cole Charlotte Chris Hero Bael Mr Cisco Cortez Castro Ivelisse Son of Havoc Jay Briscoe Kofi Kingston Xavier Woods Big E Togi Makabe Randy Orton Bobby Fish
3 Appearances {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Bayley Brock Lesnar Michael Elgin Johnny Mundo Prince Puma Cesaro Finn Balor Pentagon Jr Daniel Bryan Dean Ambrose
and 4 {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Timothy Thatcher Tomoaki Honma Roman Reigns Tetsuya Naito
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Post by MrElijah on May 13, 2016 10:07:17 GMT -5
I said this at the end of Brooklyn Takeover: Bayley has Steamboat's babyface fire. And her wrestling is very Dragon like. You want her to win and if need be, beat the hell out of her opponent.
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