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Post by Instant Classic on Apr 30, 2016 12:43:13 GMT -5
With the rise in Ring of honor and NJPW why is it that no one ever peeps the NWA title? It's basically the Conway pop of World titles. Thanks a lot Conway....
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Apr 30, 2016 13:08:04 GMT -5
To us hardcore fans, it is a big deal especially with it's lineage of past champions...
Unfortunately after the fallout with Jim Crockett Promotions, and the loss of WCW, ECW, and TNA as NWA promotions or "territories," the name was tarnished beyond repair along with their resistance to change during the attitude era.
Lately, they've made great strides, and their talent pool and promotions are the strongest they've been in years and the title, while many still see it as a joke, does have good competition for it and Jax Dane is indeed a traveling champion.
Will it ever be as big name-wise as it was in the past, highly unlikely, but it's still fun to follow a title with such a history behind it.
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Post by chazraps on Apr 30, 2016 13:11:54 GMT -5
It has peaks and valleys depending on the direction that the company's going. Adam Pearce did a fantastic job rebuilding the title, and his 2012 feud with Colt Cabana over the belt is probably the most attention and respect the NWA had since splitting from TNA, but once the company parted ways from Pearce/Cabana in such an audience-insulting way, it just alienated all the good will and new audiences it had built.
There is a lot of strong talent competing for the belt now, it just left a four year old bad taste in everyone's mouth.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Apr 30, 2016 13:20:00 GMT -5
It has peaks and valleys depending on the direction that the company's going. Adam Pearce did a fantastic job rebuilding the title, and his 2012 feud with Colt Cabana over the belt is probably the most attention and respect the NWA had since splitting from TNA, but once the company parted ways from Pearce/Cabana in such an audience-insulting way, it just alienated all the good will and new audiences it had built. There is a lot of strong talent competing for the belt now, it just left a four year old bad taste in everyone's mouth. Correct....how that shit went down during the "7 Levels Of Hate" series really soured many (more) on the brand....slowly but surely they're trying to rebuild the brand to a respectable level. |
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Post by Mayonnaise on Apr 30, 2016 13:42:01 GMT -5
When the title is decided by frequent flyer miles, court battles and sold to the top bidder instead of booking there isn't a reason to give a f***. They can get better talent, get better exposure and go on an amazing tear but they damage is done, IMO.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Apr 30, 2016 17:08:13 GMT -5
Because they won't put the belt on someone who is.
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Post by Instant Classic on Apr 30, 2016 17:11:23 GMT -5
It has peaks and valleys depending on the direction that the company's going. Adam Pearce did a fantastic job rebuilding the title, and his 2012 feud with Colt Cabana over the belt is probably the most attention and respect the NWA had since splitting from TNA, but once the company parted ways from Pearce/Cabana in such an audience-insulting way, it just alienated all the good will and new audiences it had built. There is a lot of strong talent competing for the belt now, it just left a four year old bad taste in everyone's mouth. loved loved loved Pearce as NWA champion. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 30, 2016 17:22:52 GMT -5
Hasn't really been relevant in at least twenty five years.
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Post by Chuck Conry on Apr 30, 2016 17:23:24 GMT -5
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Post by chazraps on Apr 30, 2016 17:30:10 GMT -5
Hasn't really been relevant in at least twenty five years. It was definitely relevant in 2011/2012. The Pearce-Cabana feud and the television/internet reach of NWA Hollywood was a viable alternative product at a time when ROH and the bulk of its indie contemporaries were at their weakest. NWA was offering professional wrestling without being anchored in nostalgia or shoehorning in MMA elements. It is peculiar that in the summer of 2012, both NWA and TNA were hitting the greatest strides creatively either company had had in a decade, and both fell apart around the same time. Coincidence? I say, yes. |
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Apr 30, 2016 17:31:41 GMT -5
Because the NWA refuses to allow itself as a brand to be big. They are so settled to be nothing but little regional companies that really don't link together outside having the NWA name on it. NWA TNA was the big thing it had because it was bigger than anything they had because it had PPV and TV. Then it ended, Pearce and Colt did awesome bring it back post TNA and again that break up killed it again because the title holders was not legit talent that fans see as "Wow, this guy makes that title something." Outside of Conway lately it been mostly guys you see it him and you go "Who?"
While now its starting to get back to being worth something again and the talent got better. It's slowly gaining traction again.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Apr 30, 2016 17:37:24 GMT -5
It has peaks and valleys depending on the direction that the company's going. Adam Pearce did a fantastic job rebuilding the title, and his 2012 feud with Colt Cabana over the belt is probably the most attention and respect the NWA had since splitting from TNA, but once the company parted ways from Pearce/Cabana in such an audience-insulting way, it just alienated all the good will and new audiences it had built. There is a lot of strong talent competing for the belt now, it just left a four year old bad taste in everyone's mouth. I've never bought that. Pearce got to book himself with the title, then pad out his record by bouncing it back and forth between his buddy. Seriously lame part of the belt's history. |
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Apr 30, 2016 17:39:34 GMT -5
Dear Lord....you had to remind us of The Colorado Kid?? LOL Didn't he actually try to pawn the NWA title once? |
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Post by 魔界5号 on Apr 30, 2016 17:39:51 GMT -5
Mainly because NWA isn't really a big deal anymore.
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Post by thirteen3 on Apr 30, 2016 17:42:09 GMT -5
I remember reading a post on here by somebody who knew the promoter that paid for Mike Rapadas push and title reigns. He was sleazy used car salesman that like going around twisting peoples nipples. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 19:06:26 GMT -5
Because the NWA hasn't mattered since like 1990. That was 26 years ago.
In fact, any time an American promotion wants to be bigger, ditching the NWA has been part of the game plan:
WWF
WCW
ECW
TNA (not anymore, but still...)
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 30, 2016 19:50:10 GMT -5
All of the above.
Between the death of the territories, which was essential to the reason behind the NWA title, Crockett's monopolization of the title destroying its use and value elsewhere, etc., it was dead in the water long before Shane Douglas threw it down. With the territories gone, with that actual NWA committee that was an actual committee gone, it became meaningless. It's now just one guy's toy that he licenses out to some people sometimes but every bit of what it meant is long, long gone.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 19:55:46 GMT -5
I'd think people overrated the post-TNA NWA. Beside Peirce and Cabana you have...
* Original Gunner holding the belt for a month
* Blue Demon Jr who only won the title so NWA can get some belt back from CMLL and never do anything with them
* Fake Sheik, who only won the belt because he bought the NWA a new world title. He later told the NWA to go f*** off, took the belt with him when he went to Zero 1 where he won their fake AWA championship.
* Even Colt Cabana isn't safe because he only won the belt because Pierce didn't want to job to the Fake Sheik.
That just the World title. You could go on about them not doing jack shit with Tag, Jr or Women championship.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 20:53:14 GMT -5
30 years after challenging Ric Flair for the Heavyweight title, Ricky Frickin' Morton becomes Junior Heavyweight Champion.
That's Bizarro world booking.
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Post by lildude8218 on Apr 30, 2016 21:18:07 GMT -5
Just look at it
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