tenshi
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Post by tenshi on Jun 14, 2016 12:54:12 GMT -5
The problem with EC3 is that he used to be an unapologetic, deluded and self absorbed douchebag that got as far as he did for being funny but now he acts the same way and people are expected to cheer him. If anything, he's more self entitled now because everybody that turned on him did it because he was a jerk to them first, going out of his way to humiliate people because he could. Just because Mike Bennett is a jerk doesn't make EC3 likable by default.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 14:37:41 GMT -5
Time for a gimmick change. Since Billy Corgan is part owner now I propose he changes to EC3, Ethan Corgan the third. Finally TNA can get back to 1.1, new boom period!!!! Wouldn't there have to coincidentally be an Ethan Corgan Sr and Jr. For that name change? No. That's the beauty of TNA.
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chazraps
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Post by chazraps on Jun 14, 2016 18:43:19 GMT -5
EC3 is a terrible idea for a babyface to begin with. It's almost like turning Del Rio face in 2013, another rich guy douche gimmick that you can't just flip the switch and demand fans cheer him. There's nothing especially redeeming about his character at all, and the main reason we're supposed to cheer him is because Matt Hardy beat him up and outsmarted him? I don't think Del Rio is a good example as he wasn't just "Switched." His turn happened organically. The one thing fans loved was Ricardo, and Del Rio coming to Ricardo's aid, followed by Del Rio embracing those traits, actually worked and won the fans fairly instantly. He didn't really lose steam until the Swagger-weed thing made his program on the backburner to avoid drawing attention. I think what you're saying is closer to Orton going face in 2004, when we were supposed to cheer this unrepentant dick whod been a nightmare for 18 months solely because Triple H screwed him over one night.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 19:47:17 GMT -5
He didn't really lose steam until the Swagger-weed thing made his program on the backburner to avoid drawing attention. It also really didn't help throughout that feud WWE showed a fundamental lack of understanding of the section of the crowd they were trying to win over. There isn't much better of a way to turn off that demographic than the, "Born in Mexico, made in America," catchphrase he was using.
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Fauxnaki
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Post by Fauxnaki on Jun 15, 2016 2:11:43 GMT -5
It's hard to cheer a Dixie relative kayfabe or not
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Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 15, 2016 7:02:37 GMT -5
EC3 is a terrible idea for a babyface to begin with. It's almost like turning Del Rio face in 2013, another rich guy douche gimmick that you can't just flip the switch and demand fans cheer him. There's nothing especially redeeming about his character at all, and the main reason we're supposed to cheer him is because Matt Hardy beat him up and outsmarted him? I think there's kind of this expectation that even Jeffrey Dahmer could have got cheered over Matt Hardy.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Jun 15, 2016 7:57:21 GMT -5
I don't see how you can see him feuding with Bennett and say EC3 is the bland one. He doesn't have a hot wife standing ringside? You're right. He needs to get Spud back. Immediately.
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Post by Glitch on Jun 20, 2016 15:59:50 GMT -5
Come dude. Just finish up and go to LU to become Esteban Cueto el Tercero
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Post by SAJ Forth on Jun 22, 2016 16:18:52 GMT -5
It's like sandpaper vs. fast food chicken Don't worry JH, they're both white. I think it's because it's easier to be sardonic as a heel, because you're supposed to offend.
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Post by benstudd on Jun 22, 2016 21:11:53 GMT -5
Frankly I think the "Rise" of Matt Hardy has f***ed EC3 pretty badly. EC3 was the Top guy and mega over heel champ, should have stayed that way. But Corgan is probably in love with Fatty Hardy so here you go, Matt stole his thunder, became the top heel act and Champ.
Most of all was that EC3 as a heel was so immoral that he was funny. And not forced Broken Matt funny, he was really funny in his jerkness. It's stupid also that once he turned face, they stopped EC3 having those skits he was doing, esp. on You Tube. The skits that Ec3 did about Broken Matt was better and funnier than Broken Matt.
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