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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 18, 2016 21:22:10 GMT -5
To follow up on my other thread in whether Booker or RVD was a bigger waste of money, well who do you think TNA used their money wisely on.
Christian came to TNA and immediately raised his brand showing he can compete at a main event level. Him winning the NWA title was legit feel good moment for a guy that bet on himself. Unlike Booker or Angle, Christian actually took strides in raising the profile and you if ever seen him slack off.
Angle came to TNA when you could legit call him the best wrestler in the world. It was a big get for them after WWE let him go or he asked for his release if you ask Angle. He delivered big for the company, tho he was not without his faults after all the outside ring issues he brought upon himself. However, you could say bringing in Angle gave them that major league feel they needed to bring in other "high profile" free agents for better or worse.
Who was the best money spent?
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Post by austinariesfan88 on Jul 18, 2016 21:34:23 GMT -5
Even though Kurt Angle is the bigger star, I think Christian was the money well spent. Dude was on fire his whole TNA run and just had a great match with everyone he worked with from Aj Styles, Abyss and that amazing ladder match he had with Frankie Kazarian. I kind of wish he would have stayed longer and worked programs with Alex Shelley and Austin Aries.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Jul 18, 2016 21:37:14 GMT -5
Angle coming to TNA was made possible by Christian making the jump first, that to me makes Christian the better money spent.
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Post by Rave on Jul 18, 2016 21:50:30 GMT -5
Short-term? Angle. That first match with Joe, even though they rushed it, sparked one of their highest buyrates.
However, for the long-term, Christian was the better investment. He went from being overshadowed by Edge to properly coming into his own and stepping TNA's game up at the same time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 21:54:17 GMT -5
Angle did some great things for the company, but I think Christian was the better "money well spent."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 22:21:53 GMT -5
They got more longtime use out of Angle, but Christian jumping did a ton to make TNA come off more credible and like a valid alternate career path.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jul 18, 2016 23:34:40 GMT -5
Angle gets the edge. Christian was a great signing and they got the money worth from him.Christian had great matches and came off as a legit Main Eventer and showed everyone he could do it. More so as a hell.
Angle came in as the best wrestler in the world and hell headlined WM just months before it. Now Angle they got more years out of him with a lot of good matches. Angle alone with Joe produced the biggest Pay Per View buyrate in company history. Both was where good signings but Angle was there longer and gave a lot more to TNA. Christian if he said would be much closer. Angle was the first Main Stream Main Event guy TNA had.
Sting maybe the only other big signing you could debate with giving more for TNA. Hell I say Sting and Angle are the more closer compared debate which Sting was worth it just as much.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 19, 2016 0:56:50 GMT -5
Christian.
Angle did give them the best buyrate they've had but they rushed the Joe match and had Angle stop the unstoppable Joe right away which is assbackwards booking.
not to mention you also deal with Angle's later run where he wasn't doing anything for business and was basically allowed to do whatever the f*** he wanted no matter how stupid an idea it was.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 19, 2016 1:01:35 GMT -5
Angle because he took Joe to another level...granted that Russo f***ed Joe's drawing power.
Kurt also put ec3 over and a lot of guys, keep in mind that Christian also help but he barely lost lol.
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Post by siredger on Jul 19, 2016 1:24:19 GMT -5
I think it's Christian. Simply because he was the first major name to jump ship to TNA and he was able to raise his worth big time. Something that would've been impossible for him to do in WWE back then just because of how good Edge's work was at that moment.
Of course, Christian jumping ship facilitated Kurt Angle jumping ship. Booker T afterwards and so on and so forth. I don't think that if it wouldn't have been proven that Christian could be such a valuable draw for TNA at that time, it would've been possible for them do lure in Kurt Angle following his WWE departure.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jul 19, 2016 4:31:51 GMT -5
Christian was the first WWE wrestler who came to TNA by choice without being fired. He also didn't rest on his previous reputation and accolades. Christian step it up and showed that he could carry a promotion. Angle, Sting, & Hogan may been the more popular picks but Christian was the best free agent they ever picked up.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jul 19, 2016 6:13:18 GMT -5
Kurt Angle.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Jul 19, 2016 8:53:07 GMT -5
It's...Christian.
Angle was/is a bigger star, biggest buyrate etc, but he also overstayed his welcome, becoming a parody of his former self and generally embarrising himself and TNA in the process.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 9:26:20 GMT -5
Christian seemed like a big deal at the time but pushing him as a main eventer exposed him as just a solid midcarder.While at the same time Edge was killing it.Christian had good but not great matches and he got his own DVD that is still talked about.
Angle was a huge deal at the time made TNA seem legit,he had excellent matches and managed to stay alive.He also taught me a valuable lesson " When life hands you some unpleasantness do a moonsault off a cage."
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Post by eldandyjamupguy on Jul 19, 2016 9:36:40 GMT -5
Christian.
As mentioned above, he gave TNA credibility by being the first name (and possibly only? can't think of anybody else off the top of my head) to jump from WWE to TNA and not as a result of being fired. Angle was obviously the bigger deal and bigger star, but there was jeopardy attached seeing as Kurt was on everybody's death watch.
EDIT: Jeff Hardy is the other big name who willingly left WWE for TNA.
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Post by WWEedy on Jul 19, 2016 9:47:26 GMT -5
Christian, no doubt. He seemed truly happy to be there and wanted to help grow TNA and carry it on his back. Angle was about Angle, no matter what buyrate he popped.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 19, 2016 10:15:26 GMT -5
Creatively or commercially? Creatively, Christian was better. Commerically... Angle is one of the only people in their history that actually drew.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 19, 2016 10:28:13 GMT -5
Christian. As mentioned above, he gave TNA credibility by being the first name (and possibly only? can't think of anybody else off the top of my head) to jump from WWE to TNA and not as a result of being fired. Angle was obviously the bigger deal and bigger star, but there was jeopardy attached seeing as Kurt was on everybody's death watch. EDIT: Jeff Hardy is the other big name who willingly left WWE for TNA. Is that correct tho? I'm pretty sure first time was after he got fired and the 2nd time was when he had that case pending and him and WWE went separate ways so in a technical since u can kinda count that.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jul 19, 2016 10:34:16 GMT -5
Christian, no doubt. He seemed truly happy to be there and wanted to help grow TNA and carry it on his back. Angle was about Angle, no matter what buyrate he popped. What I like to know what did TNA do to piss off Christian because how unhappy to appear a few years later in the Ric Flair trade off. Somewhere he went from doing what to said to seem to hate TNA. I wish Christian at the time stayed in TNA. Mainly because the WWE basically used him the same way as he was when he left only giving him a short World title run in a thank you way because of Edge retirement deal. Christian did raise TNA to a hire level for sure. Then Sting and Angle followed them and I felt that level went even hire. Like I said both where money well spent in signings but I did give Angle the edge mainly because the proven business. Angle side of the story says he asked for his release so there two side of that story. Sting I bring up because he did spike TV ratings when he came back and beat Jeff Hardy. Sting showed for a while he wanted TNA to grow so bad, I mean a guy like Sting who never before took a insane bump took then in TNA. Would you ever thought Sting would take a thumbtack bump before he did it? It wasn't until TNA was clearly was going backward instead of forward that Sting stop caring and kind of became lazy during the aces and eights. That was more it seem Sting was like everything I help build just went to waste because the mess ups by others. It was clearly Sting started to not care and waited for his contract to run out and got out.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 19, 2016 10:38:21 GMT -5
Christian. As mentioned above, he gave TNA credibility by being the first name (and possibly only? can't think of anybody else off the top of my head) to jump from WWE to TNA and not as a result of being fired. Angle was obviously the bigger deal and bigger star, but there was jeopardy attached seeing as Kurt was on everybody's death watch. EDIT: Jeff Hardy is the other big name who willingly left WWE for TNA. Is that correct tho? I'm pretty sure first time was after he got fired and the 2nd time was when he had that case pending and him and WWE went separate ways so in a technical since u can kinda count that. Second time his contract ran out. he was arrested for the massive drug charges like a week later.
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