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Post by dreidemy on Aug 8, 2016 8:08:26 GMT -5
As if DCAU hasn't irritated me enough recently I just found out (Yes I'm very behind) that "Judas Contract" is a sequel to "Teen Titans vs Justice League" Ahhh the days when the DCAU was the high point of DC, How I miss em Gotta make Damian look strong
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Post by sternrogers01 on Aug 8, 2016 9:39:26 GMT -5
Just wait 'till they get to Superman's kid.
On the plus side, it'd mean eradicating the last vestige of Supes/Wonder Woman there is in the present medium.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 9:43:49 GMT -5
The added Barbara stuff was (a) padding for the Killing Joke story, which they admit wasn't long enough for a film, and (b) character building for her, because otherwise she's a character getting shot for no reason.
Except.......anyone watching this knows who she is, knows about Barbara Gordon/Batgirl, knows that they should care, and are coming in not expecting over half an hour of character building. That's how Killing Joke worked - we knew who she was and the horror of seeing her shot and then crippled was the drama that engaged readers.
Worse still, this character building has NOTHING TO DO with the main Killing Joke story. She does nothing in that story to warrant all this unrelated storytelling, and her drama in that "prelude" is all unrelated. She quits being Batgirl. That's it. Hell, she didn't even need to quit in order to set up her shooting.
Skip it and you get the straight-forward Mark Hamill spotlight we'd been waiting for...........but even then, nothing much else sadly.
Watch it and you're just aggravated that you sat thru 35 pointless minutes that sees Batgirl take on some hood's crazy son and then a moment where Bruce and Barbara suddenly get ready to bang.
This Killing Joke adaptation should've just been a DC Showcase story - animate a few other "short" stories, make KJ the selling point, and put out a Blu-Ray anthology that doesn't see ANY of the backlash it's getting now.
A huge disappointment, because they felt the need to pad it with material that makes it a worse experience.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 8, 2016 10:34:47 GMT -5
Yep. Hell, at the very least, have her have some interaction with the Joker during that whole segment so there's a kind of bookend to it. As it is, it's just a completely unrelated Batgirl adventure, she bangs Batman, beats the shit outta random thug, quits being Batgirl, and then we enter the movie proper.
On its own, eh it was ok problems and all, but it didn't have shit to do with Killing Joke.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Aug 8, 2016 13:44:34 GMT -5
Absolutely and it wouldn't have been the first time she would have written a screenplay. She was the writer for the Animated Wonder Woman movie, a few Justice League Episodes, and at least one episode of Brave and the Bold (yes the Birds of Prey episode.) As much as I like Azzarello, He was the wrong choice for this. And I'm gonna be controversial here and say "The Killing Joke" is the worst CBM this year IMO, While I didn't like BvS it still had moments I really liked. Killing Joke just pissed me off. I had to run errands the last two days so I'll have to catch Suicide Squad later this weekend, but between Killing Joke and BvS it's a toss up for me. I had a ton of issues with both.
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Post by Vampiro138 on Aug 10, 2016 13:59:25 GMT -5
can DCAU do something fun? basically I want them to make "Superman Lives" into an animated film, get Nic Cage on board to voice Superman in it and run with it. base it off Kevin Smith's script and just see how it does. to me its one story I would like to see done animated.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Aug 11, 2016 2:43:56 GMT -5
I saw this a few nights ago. First half hour was shit. Terrible dialogue, boring, pointless and I was just counting down the minutes until the actual story started.
Once the actual Killing Joke story started I actually enjoyed it enough. It was a good adaption of the comic.
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