Cranjis McBasketball
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 17, 2016 23:58:06 GMT -5
The biggest problem has is being publically traded. Investors don't like surprises. When your face goes on your own network and says creative sucks, not very good for stocks. Remember when that guy, who's name we won't say, fake bought Raw and the stock took a tumble? So they ditched the storyline the next week? Didn't that happen when Vince "died" as well? Yeah, I think they had a ton of calls to the police reporting terrorism and murder and what not. Before you say, "No one is that dumb" The actors who do the reenactments on Unsolved Mysteries and AMW get reported to the police all the time. People are that dumb.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 0:00:47 GMT -5
Yeah I agree that if Ambrose gets depushed I'm going to be pretty bummed. We've seen guys knock creative repeatedly. With that said, I wonder what would happen to Ambrose's popularity if they took the belt off of him because of this. These days fans are smart, they'll know why Ambrose lost the belt. If anything, he might be cheered more because they'd be depushing him. Either way, this isn't his fault honestly. I mean he said what he said. And yeah the Stone Cold Podcast is watered down especially compared to the Steve Austin Podcast. Guys can let loose there. Here? It's a different story entirely. I didn't know those where two different things. I just thought The Stone Cold Podcast were just "special episodes" of the Steve Austin Podcast. Nah. They're similar but different. On the outside they're marketed as the same thing but the reality is that their formats differ. The Steve Austin Podcast has Austin usually letting guys talk as long as they want without interrupting them and trying to hit notes like he did on the Stone Cold Podcast. He's more relaxed there too. Say for example if this was on the Steve Austin Podcast we'd probably have 2 episodes full of Ambrose talking rather than Austin cutting him off and actually Austin would have understood that Ambrose didn't want to talk about certain stuff, would have avoided it and then they'd move onto wrestling. Austin had bullet points he had to hit here. Similar to Jericho's too. Notice how when Jericho did the Network podcast he was really trying to get those talking points in rather than letting the guys go at their own pace. That's one reason why I hate when guys have interviews on the Network compared to on the wrestler's normal podcast. They have more leeway.
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Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 18, 2016 0:01:52 GMT -5
Ambrose was well within his rights to say what he said. Shit, anyone who has the brass balls to call out Brock f***ing Lesnar has my immediate respect. The way the entire company seems to be scared shitless of Lesnar, he must be sitting on another lawsuit that Vince knows that Brock will win...
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Aug 18, 2016 0:04:29 GMT -5
Man,you don't even understand how bummed out I'm gonna be if Ambrose has to drop the title to Dolph f***ing Ziggler over some stupid backstage nonsense. I like Ziggler but I agree. It's like when Punk finally won the ECW title... because JoMo was buying from Signature Pharmacy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 0:07:19 GMT -5
Honestly more people should be telling Vince and Triple H they suck. Maybe if enough people said it where they can hear they might take the hint.
And seriously, if you're going to bill a show as no limits, the controversial opinions come out, then actually, y'know, do it and don't freak out when something controversial gets said.
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Sicho100
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Post by Sicho100 on Aug 18, 2016 0:11:46 GMT -5
Remember when the story used to be that Vince loved guys that would stand up to him?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Aug 18, 2016 0:11:50 GMT -5
Ahh, things don't feel right when a popular babyface doesn't have heat with the office.
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Post by wakko on Aug 18, 2016 0:13:42 GMT -5
Is there ANYONE who doesn't have heat in WWE right now? BREAKING NEWZ! Sources within WWE management claim Triple H has nuclear heat with Vince and Stephanie McMahon. These sources, who wish to remain anonymous, claim it all stems from Triple H forgetting to put the toilet seat down after he used it at home. This upset Stephanie, who told Vince all about it. Vince became enraged, as he hates to hear his daughter complain. Punishment has yet to be decided for Triple H. But rumors say he could be forced to do the laundry and dishes for a whole week! More on this story as it develops.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 0:13:44 GMT -5
I also don't get it. Vince apparently likes when guys step up to him and tell him how things are so how could Ambrose get heat if he just tells it like it is. At that point you have to look at things directly. If your champion outright says something like this, someone who's loyal and has been busting his ass for the company, then something needs to change.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 0:21:01 GMT -5
Ambrose was well within his rights to say what he said. Shit, anyone who has the brass balls to call out Brock f***ing Lesnar has my immediate respect. The way the entire company seems to be scared shitless of Lesnar, he must be sitting on another lawsuit that Vince knows that Brock will win... Honestly I think it's just a matter of Rock seems very up in the air if he'll ever wrestle again (and the Rowan match doesn't count), Cena's pretty clearly flashing his, "I'm on my way out, brah," card at this point, Taker's always up in the air if he's going to manage to make it another year, Batista really has no reason to ever come back, and so Lesnar's really the one reliable person they've got as the invincible, world-conquering crossover star, and they think it'd reflect badly on them to lose him. Of course, in reality, he's just a gigantic moneysink that doesn't seem to be paying off in any notable way that they give entirely too much leeway to, since PPVs aren't really sold on the card anymore (and he had a few PPVs that didn't sell with him on them anyway), his merch is never mentioned as among the top-sellers (though it probably does fine), and ratings actually usually go down when he shows up. They're too hung up on him as a status symbol and as a, "Roman will get REALLY popular if he beats him!" card to realize he has no actual value relative to what they're paying him.
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Post by warriorthug4edge on Aug 18, 2016 0:28:38 GMT -5
Remember when the story used to be that Vince loved guys that would stand up to him? That was back when people who stood up to Vince could go somewhere else and bury them in the ratings and in terms of $$$. Where's someone gonna go now?
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ayumidah
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Post by ayumidah on Aug 18, 2016 0:29:50 GMT -5
Oh boy if there's one thing I don't want out of Sunday it's Ziggler as champion.
As for Vince not liking when people stand up against him, I guess doing it in his office is a far cry from doing it publicly and hurting the ol' man's ego.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 0:32:05 GMT -5
Oh boy if there's one thing I don't want out of Sunday it's Ziggler as champion. Personally I want Dolph to win, preferably via heel turn, but if he does this story's going to leave me with a bad taste in my mouth from it.
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Post by Chuck Conry on Aug 18, 2016 0:39:29 GMT -5
If this causes them to take the title off him, I bet it'll be after SummerSlam and probably to AJ Styles.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 0:39:57 GMT -5
What's even more f***ed up is this.
If something happens to Ambrose...
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Post by Captain & Diet on Aug 18, 2016 1:01:34 GMT -5
I don't understand the point of these podcasts if you're going to get pissy at a guy for being honest. It's because the old man is still a f***ing carney and the yes men he surrounds himself with are carnies, too. In fact his daughter and son in law are two of the biggest carnies of all of them.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Aug 18, 2016 1:31:36 GMT -5
Punk used to say this shit all the time while holding the title for 434 days. I hope Ambrose gets in their faces and doesn't cower and back down.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Aug 18, 2016 1:54:16 GMT -5
Man,you don't even understand how bummed out I'm gonna be if Ambrose has to drop the title to Dolph f***ing Ziggler over some stupid backstage nonsense. Ziggler, guys who whines about being held back by politics, wins title via politics.
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Post by Grand Papillon "The Banker" on Aug 18, 2016 1:55:11 GMT -5
So what's funnier?
Ziggler being the beneficiary of someone else complaining online about how they were used by creative or Randy Orton being the beneficiary of someone else failing wellness?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Aug 18, 2016 2:00:59 GMT -5
So what's funnier? Ziggler being the beneficiary of someone else complaining online about how they were used by creative or Randy Orton being the beneficiary of someone else failing wellness? This is assuming that Ambrose and Lesnar are losing, which they still probably aren't.
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