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Post by HisRoyalGreeness on Sept 21, 2016 13:33:38 GMT -5
To break Honky Tonk Man's record of longest reigning Intercontinental champion? Personally I thought Orton or Benjamin would've done it during their lengthy reigns but alas, they came up short. I can't think of a better guy, especially with his new found focus, to do it. It would be a perfect accolade for him. Granted he's got shy of 300 days to go if he plans on beating 454 but I'm rooting for him. And frankly, it's been almost 30 years. It's time. Thoughts?
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Post by The Yes Man on Sept 21, 2016 13:39:21 GMT -5
I'd say yes, but with the rosters having been cut in half, it's going to wear really thin by the end of it. I mean, who is there for him to face for pretty much one more year?
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Post by Shai on Sept 21, 2016 13:43:02 GMT -5
To break Honky Tonk Man's record of longest reigning Intercontinental champion? Personally I thought Orton or Benjamin would've done it during their lengthy reigns but alas, they came up short. I can't think of a better guy, especially with his new found focus, to do it. It would be a perfect accolade for him. Granted he's got shy of 300 days to go if he plans on beating 454 but I'm rooting for him. And frankly, it's been almost 30 years. It's time. Thoughts? The only problem I've got with it is it getting stupidly annoying like its getting with New Day. |
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Post by HisRoyalGreeness on Sept 21, 2016 13:45:55 GMT -5
That's the one sticking point. By the time they reshuffle the rosters, which I assume will be around July, he'll already be closing in. They've already pretty much ran through the Ziggle program so it really doesn't leave too many guys unless you count NXT call ups. I can see a feud with Swagger at some point if they're serious about rebuilding him. They can go back to the Apollo Crews well if they have to. There would have to be some face turns as well to create challengers. It will be difficult but not impossible.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 21, 2016 13:47:33 GMT -5
No, because because the HTM should always be the greatest IC champion of all time.
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Post by CMWaters on Sept 21, 2016 13:54:03 GMT -5
The difference between when Honky Tonk Man held the IC title for that long and if someone like Miz would hold the title that long is exposure.
Back when Honky was holding the title, you didn't have nearly as many hours of TV going on for WWF at the time, only 4 PPVs a year, and the shows were shorter. Plus, back then, Big name vs. Big name matches were saved for the rare show main event, a Saturday Night's Main Event (or just The Main Event) and PPVs (and even then, in the case of something like Survivor Series or the first Royal Rumble, he didn't defend the title there). There could have been times when he wasn't even on the show that week either.
Nowadays, at least 1 event per brand per month, expected name vs. name matches, 2 hour shows, try to get the bigger names on the shows each week, it makes it much harder for ANY champion to hold a title for a whole year and keep it fresh. The fact that many people think New Day need to drop the belts soon is proof of that...and even going back a few years, people were starting to get tired of Punk's over a year long reign with the WWE title near the end of it as well.
To sum up...while there is a chance that Miz COULD be made to beat HTM's record, it'll be damn hard to keep it interesting enough for him to hold it that long.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 13:54:30 GMT -5
No. HTM's reign worked back then because there was much less television; after 454 days as champion even the most ardent Miz fanboy would be sick of him.
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Post by Shai on Sept 21, 2016 13:56:25 GMT -5
No. HTM's reign worked back then because there was much less television; after 434 days as champion even the most ardent Miz fanboy would be sick of him. *cough* New Day |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 14:27:46 GMT -5
He'd need constant prompting, like this verbal assault on D-Bry a month ago, and require to go over other people whose potential could be squashed in the process (not counting Ziggler, who seems like his wheels are spinning ready to go away). His work is solid but unspectacular, he's been a champ so many times I don't remember much about any of his runs (he beat Cena at a WrestleMania - I'll sure give him that) and the arrogant famous guy heel thing is beyond old and (depending on the viewer) ineffective since his film career is clearly a creation & sole possession of WWE Films itself. Is that really worth it to give The Miz a record breaking IC title run on.....what, his 4th or 5th run with it? No. HTM's reign worked back then because there was much less television; after 434 days as champion even the most ardent Miz fanboy would be sick of him. *cough* New Day New Day is ridiculous. It shouldn't have worked but did, and got way over. The Miz is The Miz. Totally and tiringly in standard orbit for years now. |
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Post by Shai on Sept 21, 2016 14:30:45 GMT -5
He'd need constant prompting, like this verbal assault on D-Bry a month ago, and require to go over other people whose potential could be squashed in the process (not counting Ziggler, who seems like his wheels are spinning ready to go away). His work is solid but unspectacular, he's been a champ so many times I don't remember much about any of his runs (he beat Cena at a WrestleMania - I'll sure give him that) and the arrogant famous guy heel thing is beyond old and (depending on the viewer) ineffective since his film career is clearly a creation & sole possession of WWE Films itself. Is that really worth it to give The Miz a record breaking IC title run on.....what, his 4th or 5th run with it? New Day is ridiculous. It shouldn't have worked but did, and got way over. The Miz is The Miz. Totally and tiringly in standard orbit for years now. Not talking about that part of it. I love the New Day. I was talking about how overexposure has absolutely ruined The New Day. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 14:32:47 GMT -5
Not talking about that part of it. I love the New Day. I was talking about how overexposure has absolutely ruined The New Day. Oh. Apologies. As one who's tuned out more than ever, I.......haven't kept up with how they've ruined the New Day? Drat. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 21, 2016 14:33:57 GMT -5
He'd need constant prompting, like this verbal assault on D-Bry a month ago, and require to go over other people whose potential could be squashed in the process (not counting Ziggler, who seems like his wheels are spinning ready to go away). His work is solid but unspectacular, he's been a champ so many times I don't remember much about any of his runs (he beat Cena at a WrestleMania - I'll sure give him that) and the arrogant famous guy heel thing is beyond old and (depending on the viewer) ineffective since his film career is clearly a creation & sole possession of WWE Films itself. Is that really worth it to give The Miz a record breaking IC title run on.....what, his 4th or 5th run with it? New Day is ridiculous. It shouldn't have worked but did, and got way over. The Miz is The Miz. Totally and tiringly in standard orbit for years now. Not talking about that part of it. I love the New Day. I was talking about how overexposure has absolutely ruined The New Day. Yeah, New Day should have dropped it months ago at this point. and No, as stated with teh amount of TV there is it would get way old, with the rosters in half they'd run out of challengers quick and they'd undoubtedly fall back on having the Miz disappear for a month again killing interest in the title. |
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Post by Mid-Carder on Sept 21, 2016 14:35:07 GMT -5
Absolutely not. It's a different era and with so many shows that's way too long for one person to be champion. CM Punk JUST ABOUT pulled it off and even then I think a lot of people were glad to see it over (I wasn't one of them)
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Post by Shai on Sept 21, 2016 14:35:16 GMT -5
Not talking about that part of it. I love the New Day. I was talking about how overexposure has absolutely ruined The New Day. Oh. Apologies. As one who's tuned out more than ever, I.......haven't kept up with how they've ruined the New Day? Drat. You can tell they're running out of ideas and they have NO chemistry with Gallows and Anderson at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 14:35:50 GMT -5
The difference between when Honky Tonk Man held the IC title for that long and if someone like Miz would hold the title that long is exposure. Back when Honky was holding the title, you didn't have nearly as many hours of TV going on for WWF at the time, only 4 PPVs a year, and the shows were shorter. Plus, back then, Big name vs. Big name matches were saved for the rare show main event, a Saturday Night's Main Event (or just The Main Event) and PPVs (and even then, in the case of something like Survivor Series or the first Royal Rumble, he didn't defend the title there). There could have been times when he wasn't even on the show that week either. Nowadays, at least 1 event per brand per month, expected name vs. name matches, 2 hour shows, try to get the bigger names on the shows each week, it makes it much harder for ANY champion to hold a title for a whole year and keep it fresh. The fact that many people think New Day need to drop the belts soon is proof of that...and even going back a few years, people were starting to get tired of Punk's over a year long reign with the WWE title near the end of it as well. To sum up...while there is a chance that Miz COULD be made to beat HTM's record, it'll be damn hard to keep it interesting enough for him to hold it that long. I'm all for it if they can keep it interesting but I think you're right. Every title reign designed to beat a streak has been a slogging mess rife with padding. You pretty much forget a title exists and then all of a sudden "what do you know? He's about to make a record!" |
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Post by Clutchhausen on Sept 21, 2016 14:39:46 GMT -5
WTF?? Absolutely not! He should be curtain jerking on Superstars jobbing to R Truth.
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Post by Shai on Sept 21, 2016 14:45:28 GMT -5
The difference between when Honky Tonk Man held the IC title for that long and if someone like Miz would hold the title that long is exposure. Back when Honky was holding the title, you didn't have nearly as many hours of TV going on for WWF at the time, only 4 PPVs a year, and the shows were shorter. Plus, back then, Big name vs. Big name matches were saved for the rare show main event, a Saturday Night's Main Event (or just The Main Event) and PPVs (and even then, in the case of something like Survivor Series or the first Royal Rumble, he didn't defend the title there). There could have been times when he wasn't even on the show that week either. Nowadays, at least 1 event per brand per month, expected name vs. name matches, 2 hour shows, try to get the bigger names on the shows each week, it makes it much harder for ANY champion to hold a title for a whole year and keep it fresh. The fact that many people think New Day need to drop the belts soon is proof of that...and even going back a few years, people were starting to get tired of Punk's over a year long reign with the WWE title near the end of it as well. To sum up...while there is a chance that Miz COULD be made to beat HTM's record, it'll be damn hard to keep it interesting enough for him to hold it that long. I'm all for it if they can keep it interesting but I think you're right. Every title reign designed to beat a streak has been a slogging mess rife with padding. You pretty much forget a title exists and then all of a sudden "what do you know? He's about to make a record!" Nikki Bella and the Divas Title is a perfect example of this. Especially since it was pretty clear they were just doing it to shit on AJ Lee. |
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 21, 2016 14:46:17 GMT -5
WWE needs to get away from setting length records and focusing on making reigns memorable again. When WWE tries to book for a record, they tend to book long stretches of underwhelming filler because it becomes just about going through the motions until the reign is over. When you run out of stories to tell with your champion, it's a surefire sign you need a new champion.They forget what generally made those famous record reigns magical and memorable and think all that matters is the number.
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Post by MrElijah on Sept 21, 2016 15:44:11 GMT -5
No, because because the HTM should always be the greatest IC champion of all time. You spelled Mountie wrong. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Sept 21, 2016 15:51:45 GMT -5
I wouldn't have minded Santino doing it. The Honk-a-Meter was gold.
I miss Santino.
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