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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 16, 2016 14:14:17 GMT -5
Michael Cole is too close to the ring. Please move him two miles further away.
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Post by CubsFan71 on Oct 16, 2016 19:40:49 GMT -5
1. Stop making Raw the Roman Reigns show. Seriously how much longer are you willing to go with this failed push Vince?
2. Get Cesare away from the heat vacuum known as Sheamus (you have no idea how badly I want to.change my name on here) and get him in a title program.
3. This one is hard for me since I'm such a big fan but, get rid of Foley. I find myself reaching for the remote every time he's on scree .
4. More focus on the cruiserweights. It already feels like they've stopped trying with them
5. Shorten it to two hours. It's just too long to keep my attention anymore
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Post by Manute Bol on Oct 16, 2016 23:18:30 GMT -5
Get Cesare away from the heat vacuum known as Sheamus (you have no idea how badly I want to.change my name on here) and get him in a title program. Just curious, why don't you?
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 17, 2016 0:35:58 GMT -5
For real, the core problem with Raw boils down to one thing.
It's not terrible but it's terribly ineffective.
Let's look at the Roman/Rusev feud. Ignore the participants, ignore the hate for Roman, let's look at this from a pure storytelling standpoint.
K, Roman wins the title clean at the PPV. By and large, that's fine. Rusev had a decent enough reign with it and if this program is gonna have legs, Roman pretty much had to win it. No issues here.
What happens the next night? Roman and Rusev fight to a double count out in a boring match. It ends with Roman laying Rusev out. Uhh...kinda weird but alright, gotta make the Big Dawg look strong.
What happens the next week? Roman and Rusev get in a fight and Roman lays out Rusev.
What happens the week after that? There's an mixed tag match involving Roman and Rusev and, you guessed it, Roman laid out Rusev to close the segment.
...Who on earth could care about this match, haha? We've already seen the face won the title and he's made the heel look like a complete geek every time they've faced off since. FFS, the heel has to look like a believable threat if you want a chance of people giving a tiniest shit about this feud. Now, I'm sure Rusev will lay out Roman on the Raw before the PPV. And the cornball announcers will sell it for all their worth (by that, I mean poorly because that's all they know how to do) and Rusev will make mean faces and pose with the title and Lana will look bad AF. One problem. It won't mean a goddamn thing because it's too little, way too late. What a horribly constructed feud from start to finish this has been.
And, Jesus Christ, what a hot mess the main event scene is. Seth's a whiny pussy that's mad Daddy HHH didn't give him the toy he wanted so now he's throwing a fit. Jericho might as well be a comedy character which would be fine if he wasn't the #2 heel on the brand. Comedy never has, and never will, make people want to see a fight. And Owens is just...there. If anything, he comes off as a comedy character as well by extension of his dicking around with Jericho. And don't get me wrong, I think JeriKO are hilarious together but this is not what this brand needs at the very top of the card. On Smackdown, I take all the top guys seriously. Even Ziggler, who I hate, has been built back into being a force. On Raw, I don't take any of these dudes mildly serious. I'm not invested in any of these characters and I sure as f*** don't have any interest in any potential matches they could have.
It's just not a productive professional wrestling show. That's the problem with Raw.
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Post by 4real on Oct 17, 2016 2:55:52 GMT -5
"Ok I'll give RAW a chance this week it might be good"
Roman Reigns music hits
"f*** this"
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Post by CubsFan71 on Oct 17, 2016 15:55:19 GMT -5
Get Cesare away from the heat vacuum known as Sheamus (you have no idea how badly I want to.change my name on here) and get him in a title program. Just curious, why don't you? Don't know how lol
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Post by wisdomwizard on Oct 24, 2016 22:43:25 GMT -5
So coming off of the Raw thread being so low, what would get everyone here to tune in again? What realistically could they do better the show?
I think some of Raw has been better as far as most of the backstage stuff with their two interviewers and the segments being good/funny. I think the biggest problem they have is there are too many feuds that have been going on between three to five weeks.
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Post by FAR5222 on Oct 24, 2016 22:49:55 GMT -5
So coming off of the Raw thread being so low, what would get everyone here to tune in again? What realistically could they do better the show? I think some of Raw has been better as far as most of the backstage stuff with their two interviewers and the segments being good/funny. I think the biggest problem they have is there are too many feuds that have been going on between three to five weeks. Nothing. Really the whole product as a whole is boring. I didn't watch Smackdown last week but only caught the Ellsworth/Styles match.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2016 22:56:44 GMT -5
So coming off of the Raw thread being so low, what would get everyone here to tune in again? What realistically could they do better the show? I think some of Raw has been better as far as most of the backstage stuff with their two interviewers and the segments being good/funny. I think the biggest problem they have is there are too many feuds that have been going on between three to five weeks. Honestly there needs to be some major buzz and major shake-ups with the way Raw does things and who the featured players are. Nothing going on right now remotely interests me, not helped by the fact Clash of Champions was shit and Hell in a Cell looks to be the exact same show except with a fence. Really, pretty much nothing Raw can do right now is likely to make me tune in. I'm probably not doing so unless something major happens until the post-Mania show.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Oct 24, 2016 22:58:26 GMT -5
So coming off of the Raw thread being so low, what would get everyone here to tune in again? What realistically could they do better the show? I think some of Raw has been better as far as most of the backstage stuff with their two interviewers and the segments being good/funny. I think the biggest problem they have is there are too many feuds that have been going on between three to five weeks. Honestly there needs to be some major buzz and major shake-ups with the way Raw does things and who the featured players are. Nothing going on right now remotely interests me, not helped by the fact Clash of Champions was shit and Hell in a Cell looks to be the exact same show except with a fence. Really, pretty much nothing Raw can do right now is likely to make me tune in. I'm probably not doing so unless something major happens until the post-Mania show. A major thing like what though?
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Oct 24, 2016 22:59:34 GMT -5
Honestly there needs to be some major buzz and major shake-ups with the way Raw does things and who the featured players are. Nothing going on right now remotely interests me, not helped by the fact Clash of Champions was shit and Hell in a Cell looks to be the exact same show except with a fence. Really, pretty much nothing Raw can do right now is likely to make me tune in. I'm probably not doing so unless something major happens until the post-Mania show. A major thing like what though? Getting rid of Foley would be a great start.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2016 23:01:11 GMT -5
Honestly there needs to be some major buzz and major shake-ups with the way Raw does things and who the featured players are. Nothing going on right now remotely interests me, not helped by the fact Clash of Champions was shit and Hell in a Cell looks to be the exact same show except with a fence. Really, pretty much nothing Raw can do right now is likely to make me tune in. I'm probably not doing so unless something major happens until the post-Mania show. A major thing like what though? I dunno, something unexpected that introduces a new major player or radically shakes up the status quo, like something like Nexus did. Something totally wild, not just, "Triple H screwed over Rollins again! Maybe this time we'll actually follow up on it!" Just give me reason to be interested which Raw has not done in a long, long time.
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Post by madness50 on Oct 24, 2016 23:04:42 GMT -5
A major thing like what though? Getting rid of Foley would be a great start. The only problem is that if Foley goes, Triple H will obviously take his place and none of us deserves that BS again.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Oct 24, 2016 23:07:44 GMT -5
Getting rid of Foley would be a great start. The only problem is that if Foley goes, Triple H will obviously take his place and none of us deserves that BS again. I love Hunter but this. I don't mind if he comes back around WrestleMania for a feud with someone but I don't care if kayfabe or if the current story narrative requires it, we DON'T need to restart the Authority angle yet again. That more than anything I think is what caused a big drought in viewers for WWE. People want to see good win.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2016 23:08:56 GMT -5
Getting rid of Foley would be a great start. The only problem is that if Foley goes, Triple H will obviously take his place and none of us deserves that BS again. Honestly I find Triple H a lot more tolerable than Foley.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Oct 24, 2016 23:09:43 GMT -5
The only problem is that if Foley goes, Triple H will obviously take his place and none of us deserves that BS again. Honestly I find Triple H a lot more tolerable than Foley. Truth. This version of Foley is absolutely insufferable.
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Post by madness50 on Oct 24, 2016 23:12:39 GMT -5
The only problem is that if Foley goes, Triple H will obviously take his place and none of us deserves that BS again. I love Hunter but this. I don't mind if he comes back around WrestleMania for a feud with someone but I don't care if kayfabe or if the current story narrative requires it, we DON'T need to restart the Authority angle yet again. That more than anything I think is what caused a big drought in viewers for WWE. People want to see good win. My major pet peeve with the current WWE is that no one can get one over on the almighty Stephanie McMahon anymore. She never gets shut down, talks over people, and that screechy voice makes cats all over the world flee in terror. Don't know why she is so stubborn on getting comeuppance when she always got hers back in the early 2000's.
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Post by madness50 on Oct 24, 2016 23:14:08 GMT -5
The only problem is that if Foley goes, Triple H will obviously take his place and none of us deserves that BS again. Honestly I find Triple H a lot more tolerable than Foley. The less is more Triple H we've gotten this year is fine. The 25 to 30 minute promo Triple H can f*** right off.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Oct 25, 2016 19:01:24 GMT -5
Rusev needs to CRUSH that greasy trash Roman Reigns. It is a disgrace that he holds the USA title and not someone who comes from such a strong,noble and genetically superior family. Only way to save RAW
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Oct 25, 2016 19:47:04 GMT -5
Honestly I find Triple H a lot more tolerable than Foley. The less is more Triple H we've gotten this year is fine. The 25 to 30 minute promo Triple H can f*** right off. The choice between endless promo HHH and endless bumbling idiot/screaming "passionate" Foley is still pretty tough honestly.
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