Han Solo (2018)

[YAKMAN is ICHIBAN]

I hope this turns out well, and I'm optimistic, but I still feel like it is a story that didn't need telling.

[Malibu Stacy]

For all those who misread it as Danny Glover, I got ya beat- this is the first time I realized they were actually two different people to begin with.

[Fade]

Gambino is going to kill it.

[andrew8798]

"Phil Lord and Christopher Miller are talented filmmakers who have assembled an incredible cast and crew, but it’s become clear that we had different creative visions on this film, and we’ve decided to part ways. A new director will be announced soon,” said Kathleen Kennedy, president of Lucasfilm in a statement.

“Unfortunately, our vision and process weren’t aligned with our partners on this project. We normally aren’t fans of the phrase ‘creative differences’ but for once this cliché is true. We are really proud of the amazing and world-class work of our cast and crew,” stated Phil Lord and Christopher Miller.

-HWR

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Um, wow. This is not good.

[Pooh Carlson]

Definitely unfortunate, but I think after The Force Awakens and Rogue One, Kathleen Kennedy has built up some trust in her decision making.

[burdette25159]

I'm guessing that the Han Solo movie gets pushed back to December 2018 and that either Avengers Infinity war gets delayed a couple of weeks or the Incredibles 2's release gets moved forward to Memorial Day weekend

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

Just give it to Donald Glover. He's shown he's a creative mind in his own right. Or let Dave Filoni have a crack at it. Sure, he's mostly your animated braintrust but, I'd be fascinated to see what he could do with a live action movie.

I wonder if this also means Trevarrow is also on the chopping block after the disaster that was The Book of Henry. Probably not, the cast seems to love Trevarrow so, he's going nowhere.

["Trickster Dogg" James Jesse]

I have a bad feeling about this.

[StuntGranny®]

This is a great opportunity to just not do this.

[BorneAgain]

Probably premature, but...

[andrew8798]

Miller and Lord were stunned to find that they were not being granted freedom to run the production in the manner that they were accustomed to. They balked at Kennedy’s tight control on the set.

A person with knowledge of the production said that the chemistry between the directors and Kennedy was never right.

“It was a culture clash from day one,” the source said. “She didn’t even like the way they folded their socks.”

The duo also clashed with Kasdan, who has been an integral creative part of several “Star Wars” movies, dating back the the 1980 “The Empire Strikes Back.” Like Kennedy, he questioned many of the pair’s directing choices.

“Kathy, her team and Larry Kasdan have been doing it their way for a very long time. They know how the cheese is made and that’s how they want it made,” said the source. “It became a very polarizing set.”

Some insiders believe that while Kennedy wants to make a splash by hiring young indie directors such as Gareth Edwards (“Rogue One: A Star Wars Story”) and Rian Johnson (“Star Wars: The Last Jedi”), she’s ultimately unwilling to empower them to make their own creative decisions.

-Variety

[Fade]

Honestly, not a good sign. Lord and Miller are really, really talented directors with very unique visions in their films. So my guess if KK and company went "it's not Star Wars-y enough.." regardless, a shame. Them being directors was one of the biggest aspects that had me pumped for this flick.

[Push R Truth]

Part of me wonders if they were filming "han shot first" style and Kennedy wanted "good guy Han"

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Jun 20, 2017 21:40:32 GMT -5 Fade said:

Honestly, not a good sign. Lord and Miller are really, really talented directors with very unique visions in their films. So my guess if KK and company went "it's not Star Wars-y enough.." regardless, a shame. Them being directors was one of the biggest aspects that had me pumped for this flick.

See also, Edgar Wright and AntMan

Disney is very serious about staying on-brand. And rightfully so. But it easily clashes with directors who want to actually direct in their own style. I think Disney just likes having "auteur" directors for the "creative street cred" but doesn't actually want their creative voice.

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Well there goes my interest in this movie. Phil Lord and Chris Miller are some of my favorite filmmakers and the new Star Wars films have been painfully average so far. Holding out on my last remaining hope For Last Jedi

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

Jun 20, 2017 21:43:38 GMT -5 Push R Truth said:

Part of me wonders if they were filming "han shot first" style and Kennedy wanted "good guy Han"

Wouldn't surprise me. Kathleen Kennedy is, by all accounts, fiercely loyal to George Lucas and his "final vision" for Star Wars. She's been adamant not messing with George's final cuts to the original triology. You'll hear the same thing from everyone at Lucasfilm now. Kennedy, Hidalgo, Chee, Martin, Filoni. They all will defend any criticism people have for Lucas' decisions over the past decade or so. So if indeed Lord and Miller were writing OG Han and not Lucas' Han, that was NEVER going to fly.

What's strange is that the studio execs have been so involved with Episode 7, Rogue One, and the Han Solo film but everything I'm hearing is that they had no leash for Rian Johnson. To the point where some of the cast of the Last Jedi were voicing initial objections to what he wrote because it strayed too far from how they thought their characters should be written. Not to mention the fact that even though improvisation seemed to be an issue here, Laura Dern flat out said that was encouraged on the Episode 8 set. All that craziness is part of the reason a lot of people I know are excited for TLJ. And there have been no reports of extensive reshoots so, I don't get it. Why so pedantic here when Rian Johnson and co. were given all this leeway to work with. Why are these cases so different?

From the sounds of things it'll be either Lawrence Kasden, Ron Howard, or Joe Johnston who are going to be taking the helm.

[Fade]

Jun 20, 2017 22:58:17 GMT -5 @supersweetbotch said:

Well there goes my interest in this movie. Phil Lord and Chris Miller are some of my favorite filmmakers and the new Star Wars films have been painfully average so far. Holding out on my last remaining hope For Last Jedi

If Rian keeps his game up, it's all downhill after TLJ. Episode IX will be entertaining at best with Trevorrow at the helm.

[Feargus McReddit]

It's, once again, another case of movie studios hiring people who were successful for being ultra creative then being shocked they're ultra creative.

It's ridiculous that we have to go through this song and dance with big productions like this every few months, justified or not.

[The Captain]

Jun 20, 2017 22:19:31 GMT -5 @personman01 said:

Jun 20, 2017 21:40:32 GMT -5 Fade said:

Honestly, not a good sign. Lord and Miller are really, really talented directors with very unique visions in their films. So my guess if KK and company went "it's not Star Wars-y enough.." regardless, a shame. Them being directors was one of the biggest aspects that had me pumped for this flick.

See also, Edgar Wright and AntMan

Disney is very serious about staying on-brand. And rightfully so. But it easily clashes with directors who want to actually direct in their own style. I think Disney just likes having "auteur" directors for the "creative street cred" but doesn't actually want their creative voice.

It probably also has a lot to do with working within a shared universe like Star Wars where so many things have to stay consistent and cohesive not just in the movies, but in supplementary material.

They're erring on the side of caution, I think, because they don't want things to end up like the Legends EU did where you had a lot of different conflicting stories and characters having wildly different personalities depending on the medium. It ultimately means less adventurous movies but then outside of VFX work, Star Wars has never exactly been avant garde film-making to begin with.

Though for all the noise about Disney interfering with Rogue One to make it a "light-hearted adventure," it turned out to be all junk as that was probably the bleakest Star Wars movie ever made.