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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 23, 2016 11:46:09 GMT -5
 That theme will always be iconic to me One of my favorite shows coming up. Season 1 was typical monster of the week but after that it picked up and peaked around Season 4-6. Once michael rossenbaum left the show it started to fall flat as no one could match his brilliance as Lex which left the focus more on Clark and Lois developing relationship. All in all it was a pretty good show that could of probably been a few seasons shorter but I liked the ride none the less. |
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Oct 23, 2016 11:49:41 GMT -5
I liked it well enough. I loved Lois for sure.
Agreed, once Lex was gone, there was pretty much no point. Doomsday and Zod shouldn't have been used, it missed the whole point of what the show was supposed to be. If you're going to dig that far into his future, just make him Superman. It probably would've reinvigorated the show.
But then again, if you're just going to go balls crazy, then the 2005 Bat-Embargo took away the one truly fun thing you could've done.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 23, 2016 11:55:33 GMT -5
I liked it well enough. I loved Lois for sure. Agreed, once Lex was gone, there was pretty much no point. Doomsday and Zod shouldn't have been used, it missed the whole point of what the show was supposed to be. If you're going to dig that far into his future, just make him Superman. It probably would've reinvigorated the show. But then again, if you're just going to go balls crazy, then the 2005 Bat-Embargo took away the one truly fun thing you could've done. Yea definitely forgot about the Bat Embargo that def could of went places if they had their ways. Even then they teased Justice League introducing Flash and Cyborg but never really took it anywhere. I get they wanted to stick to he's not "Superman" yet but the whole red/blue blue shit made him Superman and they could of found some new legs if they just commuted to it making him Superman. |
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Post by sternrogers01 on Oct 23, 2016 12:22:54 GMT -5
I have a soft spot for the post-Lex years, mainly because of all the good Lois and Clark stuff.
Favourite seasons were always two and five-seven. Great stuff there, I wish some of it had been folded into the comics lore
And check out the eleventh season comic book if you can, it came out at the time of the New 52 and was easily the best Superman book at the time, plus it's Wonder Woman and Steve Trevor dynamic is adorable.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Oct 23, 2016 12:24:27 GMT -5
Never watched it, but consistently heard good things about it. So my only contribution to this thread is to continue to trumpet my idea of all the Superman's, including Smallville's, showing up in one of the Justice League movies to combine and defeat Darkseid.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 23, 2016 12:57:10 GMT -5
Had its flaws, and some of the changes from the source I wasn't crazy about, but way more good than bad. A pioneer of the great live action comics shows we're getting now, generally good acting all around, THE best live action Lex so far, and honestly every chick on that show was hot. I'm a fan.
Edit: And agreed with the problems mentioned. And besides, if he's wearing the S, living in Metropolis, working for the Planet, and dating Lois--he's Superman by that point. So yeah, they went too long, but 8 solid seasons outta ten.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Oct 23, 2016 13:03:57 GMT -5
Never really watched it, but I understand its role in paving the way for the renaissance of superhero-based shows on TV right now.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 23, 2016 13:13:24 GMT -5
Had its flaws, and some of the changes from the source I wasn't crazy about, but way more good than bad. A pioneer of the great live action comics shows we're getting now, generally good acting all around, THE best live action Lex so far, and honestly every chick on that show was hot. I'm a fan. Edit: And agreed with the problems mentioned. And besides, if he's wearing the S, living in Metropolis, working for the Planet, and dating Lois--he's Superman by that point. So yeah, they went too long, but 8 solid seasons outta ten. Michaels version of Lex is very under appreciated. His descent into the madness Lex would have for Superman was one of the many great tales of the show. He should of been considered for the movie roles of Lex but I think they want a "name star" - see Eisenberg. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 23, 2016 13:16:28 GMT -5
Yeah, they may also not wanted to have 'confused' people. I love his Lex though. I will say he got much more time to develop it, but as you said, his fall was one of the most interesting part of the show.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 23, 2016 13:20:38 GMT -5
Yeah, they may also not wanted to have 'confused' people. I love his Lex though. I will say he got much more time to develop it, but as you said, his fall was one of the most interesting part of the show. Agreed. I always liked that he can play the calm and cool Lex but then have that mean streak and be vindictive. Lionel was a damn good character too as he pushed Lex to become what he became. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 13:29:03 GMT -5
Still my favourite of the DCUTV shows and am sad it does not get the credit and aknowledgement it deserves because it influenced the current landscap but who knows hopefully in the future it will.
Yea the show like any other had its downpoints....specifically dragging out the Clana relationship and then dragging it back up in season 8.
But IMO the positives far outweigh the negatives ...their casting was always on point.
Tom Welling is IMO still the best TV clark kent of all time and this is enhanced by the fact by just how many different variatons of clark he played and all of them were vastly different.
Also the best lois Lane since Teri Hatcher and even then I put her a notch abover Hatcher because of her portrayl of future lois from the HomeComing episode which was so awesome.
And what can be said about Lex and Lionel....as great as Tom Cavanaugh is IMO Lex and Lionel are the gold standards as far as DCUTV villans go ..Lionel was gawd damn masterful in every appearance and every single character he interacted with was always better for it.
But yea if there is one thing SmallVille excelled at more than anything it was their absoloutley stellar ability to cast the perfect person to a role.
GreenArrow
Aquaman
Mera
Zatanna
Hawkman and subsequently the other JSA members
Amanda Waller
Major Zod
Granny Goodness
And countless others I will never say every casting was perfect but 90-10 split may as well be.
I would be out of my mind to not mention The Kents John Schnieder and Anette O'toole are who you would absoloutley picture as raising Clark and do it exactly as they did....the 100th episode will never stop being a gawd damn tear jerker.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 23, 2016 13:35:34 GMT -5
Still my favourite of the DCUTV shows and am sad it does not get the credit and aknowledgement it deserves because it influenced the current landscap but who knows hopefully in the future it will. Yea the show like any other had its downpoints....specifically dragging out the Clana relationship and then dragging it back up in season 8. But IMO the positives far outweigh the negatives ...their casting was always on point. Tom Welling is IMO still the best TV clark kent of all time and this is enhanced by the fact by just how many different variatons of clark he played and all of them were vastly different. Also the best lois Lane since Teri Hatcher and even then I put her a notch abover Hatcher because of her portrayl of future lois from the HomeComing episode which was so awesome. And what can be said about Lex and Lionel....as great as Tom Cavanaugh is IMO Lex and Lionel are the gold standards as far as DCUTV villans go ..Lionel was gawd damn masterful in every appearance and every single character he interacted with was always better for it. But yea if there is one thing SmallVille excelled at more than anything it was their absoloutley stellar ability to cast the perfect person to a role. GreenArrow Aquaman Mera Zatanna Hawkman and subsequently the other JSA members Amanda Waller Major Zod Granny Goodness And countless others I will never say every casting was perfect but 90-10 split may as well be. I would be out of my mind to not mention The Kents John Schnieder and Anette O'toole are who you would absoloutley picture as raising Clark and do it exactly as they did....the 100th episode will never stop being a gawd damn tear jerker. When they flipped fate like that in the 100th episode it def hurt. However, it was a teaching moment for Clark and showed their are actual consequences for his actions. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 13:38:58 GMT -5
I started binge watching it a couple years ago. I liked it at first, but once I got to around season 7 or so I lost interest and didn't finish it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 13:42:31 GMT -5
Still my favourite of the DCUTV shows and am sad it does not get the credit and aknowledgement it deserves because it influenced the current landscap but who knows hopefully in the future it will. Yea the show like any other had its downpoints....specifically dragging out the Clana relationship and then dragging it back up in season 8. But IMO the positives far outweigh the negatives ...their casting was always on point. Tom Welling is IMO still the best TV clark kent of all time and this is enhanced by the fact by just how many different variatons of clark he played and all of them were vastly different. Also the best lois Lane since Teri Hatcher and even then I put her a notch abover Hatcher because of her portrayl of future lois from the HomeComing episode which was so awesome. And what can be said about Lex and Lionel....as great as Tom Cavanaugh is IMO Lex and Lionel are the gold standards as far as DCUTV villans go ..Lionel was gawd damn masterful in every appearance and every single character he interacted with was always better for it. But yea if there is one thing SmallVille excelled at more than anything it was their absoloutley stellar ability to cast the perfect person to a role. GreenArrow Aquaman Mera Zatanna Hawkman and subsequently the other JSA members Amanda Waller Major Zod Granny Goodness And countless others I will never say every casting was perfect but 90-10 split may as well be. I would be out of my mind to not mention The Kents John Schnieder and Anette O'toole are who you would absoloutley picture as raising Clark and do it exactly as they did....the 100th episode will never stop being a gawd damn tear jerker. When they flipped fate like that in the 100th episode it def hurt. However, it was a teaching moment for Clark and showed their are actual consequences for his actions. Definetly it was something he never took into account previously untll it hit him like a truck that for all his gifts , he cannot save everyone and it would burden him all the way untill the finale. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 23, 2016 13:46:24 GMT -5
When they flipped fate like that in the 100th episode it def hurt. However, it was a teaching moment for Clark and showed their are actual consequences for his actions. Definetly it was something he never took into account previously untll it hit him like a truck that for all his gifts , he cannot save everyone and it would burden him all the way untill the finale. Agreed. In a superhero show it is refreshing to see that the consequences of your actions have long lasting ramifications. Would of been crazy to see if the show was around now if they would of did an injustice arc which could of been fun because I always enjoyed Tom Welling doing his "evil Clark" routines. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 13:52:27 GMT -5
Definetly it was something he never took into account previously untll it hit him like a truck that for all his gifts , he cannot save everyone and it would burden him all the way untill the finale. Agreed. In a superhero show it is refreshing to see that the consequences of your actions have long lasting ramifications. Would of been crazy to see if the show was around now if they would of did an injustice arc which could of been fun because I always enjoyed Tom Welling doing his "evil Clark" routines. I loved him as UltraMan my favourite alternate Clark persona that he played (if we ignore future clark which was amazing hell that entire future sequence from homecoming is absoloute perfection) But yea ignoring that ..UltraMan was so much fun.  Only thing that would have made this the greatest thing ever...if the two ladies were Lois and Lana UltraMan keeps his pimp hand strong lol. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 23, 2016 14:00:21 GMT -5
Agreed. In a superhero show it is refreshing to see that the consequences of your actions have long lasting ramifications. Would of been crazy to see if the show was around now if they would of did an injustice arc which could of been fun because I always enjoyed Tom Welling doing his "evil Clark" routines. I loved him as UltraMan my favourite alternate Clark persona that he played (if we ignore future clark which was amazing hell that entire future sequence from homecoming is absoloute perfection) But yea ignoring that ..UltraMan was so much fun. Only thing that would have made this the greatest thing ever...if the two ladies were Lois and Lana UltraMan keeps his pimp hand strong lol. Speaking of Lana, Kristin played a real good Lana. Good example of teasing a romance between two characters without it feeling played out by the time it happens. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 14:08:49 GMT -5
I loved him as UltraMan my favourite alternate Clark persona that he played (if we ignore future clark which was amazing hell that entire future sequence from homecoming is absoloute perfection) But yea ignoring that ..UltraMan was so much fun. Only thing that would have made this the greatest thing ever...if the two ladies were Lois and Lana UltraMan keeps his pimp hand strong lol. Speaking of Lana, Kristin played a real good Lana. Good example of teasing a romance between two characters without it feeling played out by the time it happens. The Lana character gets so much unnecesarry hate IMO. Yes the show dragged out the Clana relationship and then like I said dragged it up again forcefully in season 8 which felt like they wanted to kick the Lana fans while they were down just to say have one last fleeting moment. Yes Lana could be insufferable specifically during season 6-7 where it felt like she was constantly emotionally beating Clark down. But they had amazing chemistry and when the realtionship was written without them breaking up etc you really wanted to see the show take the small liberty and end with them together because the ammount of shit that relationship was put through they absoloutley deserved atlest that. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 23, 2016 14:18:24 GMT -5
Speaking of Lana, Kristin played a real good Lana. Good example of teasing a romance between two characters without it feeling played out by the time it happens. The Lana character gets so much unnecesarry hate IMO. Yes the show dragged out the Clana relationship and then like I said dragged it up again forcefully in season 8 which felt like they wanted to kick the Lana fans while they were down just to say have one last fleeting moment. Yes Lana could be insufferable specifically during season 6-7 where it felt like she was constantly emotionally beating Clark down. But they had amazing chemistry and when the realtionship was written without them breaking up etc you really wanted to see the show take the small liberty and end with them together because the ammount of shit that relationship was put through they absoloutley deserved atlest that. I always found Chloe more irritating in earlier seasons because she played "Clarks little buddy" knowing she had feelings for him and never went through with it. Then the whole shit with Jimmy and being mad at Clark made no sense since she knew what it cost him. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 14:30:32 GMT -5
The Lana character gets so much unnecesarry hate IMO. Yes the show dragged out the Clana relationship and then like I said dragged it up again forcefully in season 8 which felt like they wanted to kick the Lana fans while they were down just to say have one last fleeting moment. Yes Lana could be insufferable specifically during season 6-7 where it felt like she was constantly emotionally beating Clark down. But they had amazing chemistry and when the realtionship was written without them breaking up etc you really wanted to see the show take the small liberty and end with them together because the ammount of shit that relationship was put through they absoloutley deserved atlest that. I always found Chloe more irritating in earlier seasons because she played "Clarks little buddy" knowing she had feelings for him and never went through with it. Then the whole shit with Jimmy and being mad at Clark made no sense since she knew what it cost him. I can't say I ever found Chloe obnoxious but she was very bland early on because Pete was fulfilling the role that Chloe inevitably would so her placement just felt forced when Pete there...luckly it all worked out there Pete left and Chloe for the most part became awesome. Super computer/Brainiac Chloe will always be funny to me because it was like showrunners thought ya know Chloe is just not smart enough so lets literally turn her into a supercomputer lol. Witch Chloe though was hot fiyahhhh!  |
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