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Post by madness50 on Oct 24, 2016 22:24:37 GMT -5
For all the bashing Reigns gets for no selling I think Seth is worse. Literally nobody in WWE does good long-term selling, lol. That's how people work on the main roster now. Only wrestler on the roster I can remember selling on a long term basis is Rusev.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Oct 24, 2016 22:38:12 GMT -5
Oh my god, this is why I barely watch Raw. That shit just dragged on and on and on and on. Some would say it's still going on.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Oct 24, 2016 22:40:39 GMT -5
The apron powerbomb is so devastating that you'll be fine in a couple of weeks or so, being mildly inconvenient in the long run. If WWE 2K17 taught me anything, people who take that move get up within a minute or so. "THIS'LL TAKE HIM OUT FOR A MATTER OF MINUTES!"
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Post by Emmet Russell on Oct 24, 2016 22:42:08 GMT -5
Literally nobody in WWE does good long-term selling, lol. That's how people work on the main roster now. Only wrestler on the roster I can remember selling on a long term basis is Rusev. Owens did it. Like, he'd sell the effects of the ladder match at WM, and the Last Man Standing at the RR. He'd at least put in an effort to limp and make it look like he'd been in a war the previous night.
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Post by hbkid718 on Oct 24, 2016 22:43:06 GMT -5
Here are the facts for RAW: - Enzo Amore VS Karl Anderson was Amore’s 1st match since he & Big Cass lost to Chris Jericho & Kevin Owens on September 26, his 1st singles match since losing to Chris Jericho on August 8, which was his last opening match, Anderson’s 2nd week in a row in a singles match, & 1st singles match since Raw on June 13 - The New Day VS Cesaro & Sheamus was the 1st time since Big E & Kofi Kingston teamed up since defeating The Club on Raw on September 26, & was the 1st time that E & Kingston lost in a 2-on-2 tag team match since they lost to The Dudley Boyz on Raw on May 9 - Bayley VS Dana Brooke doesn’t count since it was an Arm Wrestling Match and not a regular match - Curtis Axel VS Bo Dallas was Axel’s 1st singles match on Raw since losing to Neville on July 25 - The Golden Truth VS The Shining Stars was Goldust & Truth’s 1st 2-on-2 tag team win on Raw since defeating The Vaudevillains on July 4, was Epico & Primo’s 1st 2-on-2 tag team loss on Raw since losing to Enzo & Big Cass on July 25 - Rich Swann VS Brian Kendrick was Kendrick’s 1st loss since losing to TJ Perkins at WWE Clash of Champions on September 25 - Sami Zayn VS Braun Strowman doesn’t count since the bell never rang - Seth Rollins VS Chris Jericho VS Kevin Owens was the 11th Triple Threat Match of 2016, the 1st since No Mercy on October 9, Rollins & Jericho’s 1st main event since Raw on October 10, Owens’ 1st main event since Raw on September 26, & Rollins & Jericho were the 1st since Seth Rollins on August 22 & 29 to go from the Raw opener to the following week’s main event - Tonight was the 1st Raw since July 18 to not have an Enhancement Talent & was the 1st WWE show since Smackdown on August 8 & 1st Raw since June 6 to not have a Women’s Match
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Post by dreidemy on Oct 24, 2016 23:23:51 GMT -5
Only 65 pages? Must watch show I guess
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Post by CeilingFan on Oct 25, 2016 6:02:20 GMT -5
Is it just me, or was this Raw terrible? (except for the Enzo-Big Cass segment)
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Post by Powerline on Oct 25, 2016 7:04:40 GMT -5
Is it just me, or was this Raw terrible? (except for the Enzo-Big Cass segment) I was just asking a friend on Skype how they screwed up this Raw on so many levels. Why is a clipboard more over than everyone...E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E...on the entire roster? How much further can New Day fall? Did they seriously come up with a segment that got Bayley a "boring" chant? GOD, have they screwed up with her debut. I'd tee off on this if I wasn't about to go back to bed. Who keeps thinking TJ Perkins can cut a promo? Was an awful promo in TNA, and isn't any better now. And likewise, why have Kendrick lose (even though Rich Swann is much closer to Kendrick's talent level than Perkins is)? Who the hell thought trying to get a Goldberg chant going in Lesnar's hometown was a good idea? And I was about to apologize for being nitpicky, but these really aren't nitpicks. These are all things either conceptually stupid (trying to get a chant against Lesnar in Minneapolis, putting someone who has flopped promo after promo at the announce table in TJ Perkins), or something that's been weeks/months in the making (Bayley/New Day's nosedives, trying to put Jericho over as a heel via comedy hence the crowd giving the pop of the night to a list) To think, a month ago I thought it felt wrong to like Smackdown so much more. They continue to not miss at worse, and knock it out of the park at best. The quality gap between the two shows is HUGE. Smackdown is almost as "can't miss" as NXT, and Raw might be the most painful block of wrestling on television. And it's not just this week, it's been the last month or so Raw has just been painful.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 7:15:48 GMT -5
"THAT HAS COST SUPERSTARS WEEKS OF THEIR CAREER!" Somehow, that makes it sound less threatening Cole... Same dude who, two years ago, discussed those HALF TON steel steps.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Oct 25, 2016 10:29:41 GMT -5
Is it just me, or was this Raw terrible? (except for the Enzo-Big Cass segment) I was just asking a friend on Skype how they screwed up this Raw on so many levels. Why is a clipboard more over than everyone...E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E...on the entire roster? How much further can New Day fall? Did they seriously come up with a segment that got Bayley a "boring" chant? GOD, have they screwed up with her debut. I'd tee off on this if I wasn't about to go back to bed. Who keeps thinking TJ Perkins can cut a promo? Was an awful promo in TNA, and isn't any better now. And likewise, why have Kendrick lose (even though Rich Swann is much closer to Kendrick's talent level than Perkins is)? Who the hell thought trying to get a Goldberg chant going in Lesnar's hometown was a good idea? And I was about to apologize for being nitpicky, but these really aren't nitpicks. These are all things either conceptually stupid (trying to get a chant against Lesnar in Minneapolis, putting someone who has flopped promo after promo at the announce table in TJ Perkins), or something that's been weeks/months in the making (Bayley/New Day's nosedives, trying to put Jericho over as a heel via comedy hence the crowd giving the pop of the night to a list) To think, a month ago I thought it felt wrong to like Smackdown so much more. They continue to not miss at worse, and knock it out of the park at best. The quality gap between the two shows is HUGE. Smackdown is almost as "can't miss" as NXT, and Raw might be the most painful block of wrestling on television. And it's not just this week, it's been the last month or so Raw has just been painful. A couple of silly game references here and there aside, TJ has been good at his promos and was he good at commentary. Maybe he did suck when he was in TNA, but all that seemed to finally pay off for him if he did because he's been good since arriving.
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Post by Matt on Oct 25, 2016 20:32:34 GMT -5
Only wrestler on the roster I can remember selling on a long term basis is Rusev. Owens did it. Like, he'd sell the effects of the ladder match at WM, and the Last Man Standing at the RR. He'd at least put in an effort to limp and make it look like he'd been in a war the previous night. Not even over several nights, just over a few minutes. Seth gets his ass kicked for 10 minutes but can pin both. Then they beat him up more and toss him into the stairs, but he's able to get right up, run up the ramp and jump on Owens. It is just awful how bad it is.
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Post by Powerline on Oct 25, 2016 20:49:36 GMT -5
I was just asking a friend on Skype how they screwed up this Raw on so many levels. Why is a clipboard more over than everyone...E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E...on the entire roster? How much further can New Day fall? Did they seriously come up with a segment that got Bayley a "boring" chant? GOD, have they screwed up with her debut. I'd tee off on this if I wasn't about to go back to bed. Who keeps thinking TJ Perkins can cut a promo? Was an awful promo in TNA, and isn't any better now. And likewise, why have Kendrick lose (even though Rich Swann is much closer to Kendrick's talent level than Perkins is)? Who the hell thought trying to get a Goldberg chant going in Lesnar's hometown was a good idea? And I was about to apologize for being nitpicky, but these really aren't nitpicks. These are all things either conceptually stupid (trying to get a chant against Lesnar in Minneapolis, putting someone who has flopped promo after promo at the announce table in TJ Perkins), or something that's been weeks/months in the making (Bayley/New Day's nosedives, trying to put Jericho over as a heel via comedy hence the crowd giving the pop of the night to a list) To think, a month ago I thought it felt wrong to like Smackdown so much more. They continue to not miss at worse, and knock it out of the park at best. The quality gap between the two shows is HUGE. Smackdown is almost as "can't miss" as NXT, and Raw might be the most painful block of wrestling on television. And it's not just this week, it's been the last month or so Raw has just been painful. A couple of silly game references here and there aside, TJ has been good at his promos and was he good at commentary. Maybe he did suck when he was in TNA, but all that seemed to finally pay off for him if he did because he's been good since arriving. I must've missed something (or we can chalk this up as "to each their own") but every promo I've seen of his has come off as awkwardly worded, awkwardly delivered drek.
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