Sephiroth
Wade Wilson
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Post by Sephiroth on Nov 5, 2016 19:04:17 GMT -5
That Don West/Mike Tenay high five gif wouldn't be a thing. Think about that, for a second Nor the Scott Steiner pogo stick gif.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Nov 5, 2016 19:13:06 GMT -5
Damnit now Dixie Carter is going to wake up tomorrow and go " Merry Christmas you old warehouse"
No Dixie it never was a Wonderful TNA
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Ragnal
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Post by Ragnal on Nov 5, 2016 19:36:33 GMT -5
When I think of TNA's existence I think of two things: Vince firing Jarrett on air and that PPV numbers guy fudging the buyrates back when the weekly show was on PPV.
First, Jarrett's firing. Obviously there's history as to why Vince didn't want him back on his roster, but imagine how things could have gone if JJ had been allowed to stick around in WWE even if it was to be in DDP's place for that Undertaker feud in the midst of the Invasion?
Second, that guy fudging the numbers and saying to Jeff the buyrates were going up? It caused Jarrett to put more money into the shows, and when he found out he was losing money because the buys weren't actually going up, plus one of his investors had to pull out because of an Enron-esque situation, I want to say? That made Dixie beg her daddy to invest fully into TNA, and well, here we are...
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SAJ Forth
Wade Wilson
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Post by SAJ Forth on Nov 19, 2016 3:41:38 GMT -5
This thread may see one FAN member travel back in time.
"Nice night for a walk, eh"? "Nice night for a walk".
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Reflecto
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Post by Reflecto on Nov 19, 2016 17:00:30 GMT -5
This leaves the WWA. According to Jerry Jarrett, Jeff loved Andrew McManus and wanted to work more closely with him. With TNA out of the picture, a lot of the post-"Oh shit! It's Vince Russo!" content would have been in a WWA ring. (Everything before that, like Cheex and the Dupps, was all Jerry.) By 2004, WWA is a regular occurrence booked by Jeff, Russo and Jeremy Borash. It might have taken a year or two longer, but I think WWA would have gotten an American TV show just like TNA did. The only real difference is that instead of mocking Dixie, we would be mocking Andrew McManus. I doubt that the WWA would have been able to fully be a competitor and replace TNA as the full one, even with that. Keep in mind from the roster, there were some bigger problems there since the Australian wrestling scene didn't have enough big talents coming through (and even on the WWA shows there weren't many coming up), and it wouldn't have helped until they had an Australian nucleus to build around. The WWA shows' only real Australian star was Nathan Jones- and with his look, WWE was going to eventually come calling and at that time period, WWA would have had little to no hope of keeping Jones. It wouldn't be for another 4-5 years until any Australian performers made any noise to make a nucleus, and even then the Australian women made more noise than the men did for a long time. With that in mind, WWA was due to fail on that regard- they built too hard around American performers and not around Australian performers- or even top Japanese performers who they would have had more of a fighting chance to keep on a regular basis. That was the worst thing for WWA to compete, because if TNA wasn't born, it would be a mere formality that eventually, an American promotion would have signed every WWA talent not nailed down to keep them Stateside (and that'd be the nucleus for the replacement to get an American TV show), and WWA would have eventually fallen by the wayside just like the other competitors did.
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Post by Ashy Larry on Dec 2, 2016 13:36:34 GMT -5
Sting would have had a brief run on Raw, who knows how that would have been handled. Before someone says he had a moral standing against WWE, the guy competed for TNA when they did raunchy stuff. It really is hard for me to picture Sting in a WWE ring Ruthless Aggression era. Orton would have probably RKO'd him and we would have gotten Sting vs HBK FOR SURE, or he would have had a super short stint on SmackDown having a fun feud with Undertaker. He would have kept his WCW theme. Kurt Angle would have probably wrestled for ROH post leaving WWE then come back and get burnt out by their schedule. Jeff Hardy wouldn't have had a redemption story (since if not for Victory Road, he wouldn't be clean like he is today). Chyna had her own request for a match in TNA so she would have probably have never come back to the wrestling business at all and would have still have been in a bad position. Christian wouldn't be as praised as he is today say he walked out in 05 and there was no TNA. Styles wouldn't have such a big resume. Russo wouldn't be bitching, but will still be "I was responsible for WWE's success bro". Scott Steiner would have drifted on the indy scene. Jarrett would have been an old school veteran making cameos on Sunday Night Heat. Indy feds would still be on TV, but it would be dramatically different. It's a domino effect, prevent TNA from being born and while you may get good stuff (like Sting vs HBK), you'd get a ton of bad stuff too. I like the timeline we're in no matter how imperfect it is. Matt Hardy without TNA in an alternate timeline would have done something really stupid if we're keeping some parts of this universe canon, but who knows? Maybe he would have been the popular Hardy in Pro Wrestling Earth 2.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 2, 2016 14:30:30 GMT -5
It be hard to say what would happen. The wrestling would world we had a ton of what ifs. We would had an unknown come in and built a better verison of TNA. The feds named could had more success like XWF or WWA mainly. The talent that TNA did sign would ended up where? The core home grown talent may been in WWE sooner or never discovered. AJ could been signed sooner and been in the Crusierweight division and guys like Monty Brown may never gotten the shot.
XWF was dead before TNA started and I don't know if without TNA they have a shot because Hogan and Perfect where already gone into the WWE spring of 2002. Most of the none name guys in the heavy weights like Hail and Ian Harrison where far to green to been taken on as must sees. So you had the Crusierweights which had Juvi, Psychosis and Kid Kash as names fans knew before hand, and well Vampiro, Vito, and Bagwell as you notables. Then you had LOD and the Nasty Boys. Piper was not active and suffered an accident that would taken him off camera for most of the year. Which lead to his weight gain originally. It would have been hard to make that work.
WWA seemed like had the better star power to do anything majorly. Being they where the first to had Sting wrestle since WCW ended. They did have Sting, Jarrett, Steiner, and Luger. Granted though Sting and Luger didn't happen until 03 or what was called the second tour.
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Post by alred1982 on Dec 2, 2016 15:30:41 GMT -5
I'd say the thing that needs to happen even if tna survives is see themselves as number 2 and work that way got no chance of denting wwe. So work as a alternative don't take shots so as the rock said know your role
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