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Post by Limity (BLM) on Dec 11, 2016 16:04:18 GMT -5
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Dec 11, 2016 16:08:12 GMT -5
Sounds like MTV is going the way of ESPN. I'll go several months at a time forgetting MTV even exists. I quit watching MTV 15 years ago though with some sporadic bursts here and there.
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Post by chrom on Dec 11, 2016 16:49:56 GMT -5
What does the M even stand for anymore?
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Dec 11, 2016 17:29:38 GMT -5
This thread caused me to think about MTV for the first time in....I don't even know. I haven't seen a single thing from the channel in at least 10 years.
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Post by edgestar on Dec 11, 2016 17:37:58 GMT -5
I used to watch regularly, when TRL was on, and VH1, for Pop Up Video, and The Big 80's. Now, I YouTube, for my 80's video fix, and boy band fix
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Post by arrogantmodel on Dec 11, 2016 17:41:55 GMT -5
MTV used to be awesome. The music and movie awards were must see. TRL was required viewing. The Real World still had kids from different backgrounds learning and growing from each other. Hell, I remember watching the "Sex in the 90s" specials. And of course, Beavis and Butthead and Liquid Television.
Spring Break, The Grind, Headbangers Ball, 120 Minutes, etc. All amazing.
Kennedy, Bill Bellamy, Idalis, Daisy Fuentes, Matt Pinfield, Kurt Loder, John Norris, Tabitha Soren, etc.
It really sucks and is sad to see the flaming shit pile its become.
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Post by Shai on Dec 11, 2016 17:45:12 GMT -5
MTV used to be awesome. The music and movie awards were must see. TRL was required viewing. The Real World still had kids from different backgrounds learning and growing from each other. Hell, I remember watching the "Sex in the 90s" specials. And of course, Beavis and Butthead and Liquid Television. Spring Break, The Grind, Headbangers Ball, 120 Minutes, etc. All amazing. Kennedy, Bill Bellamy, Idalis, Daisy Fuentes, Matt Pinfield, Kurt Loder, John Norris, Tabitha Soren, etc. It really sucks and is sad to see the flaming shit pile its become. I'm from NY near the city. We used to cut out on school early at least twice a month to go scream at Carson Daly. Especially if NSync, BSB or Britney was there.
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Post by Hassan bin Sober on Dec 11, 2016 17:53:52 GMT -5
Hey, remember when they brought back Beavis and Butthead for like 2 weeks?
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Post by Milkman Norm on Dec 11, 2016 18:01:20 GMT -5
I think the difference now as compared to other time in its history MTV has research and demographics that say "our viewer want A" When they started the idea of showing videos all day long was so foreign a concept that there was nothing to compare it to. As they moved away from just videos to wider programming from the late 80's to the mid 90's MTV really just threw thing against the proverbial wall to see if they stuck.
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Post by BRV on Dec 11, 2016 18:09:10 GMT -5
Right now, there is absolutely nothing that differentiates MTV from E!, Bravo, Freeform, or any of the other television networks that cater to a largely Millennial and female audience. Look at some of MTV's current crop of original programming: Catfish, Teen Mom, Girl Code, Ridiculousness, Teen Wolf, Scream ... not one of those has anything to do with music because MTV hasn't been about music in years.
Which brings me to my larger point of do we all remember how hugely relevant MTV used to be to the pop culture zeitgeist? In the 1980s and for much of the 1990s, it felt like true counter-culture, anti-establishment programming, almost like Rolling Stone magazine had gone from the printed page to the screen. The Video Music Awards, Spring Break, Live Aid, Beavis and Butthead, Headbangers Ball, Yo! MTV Raps, Total Request Live, Rock the Vote, MTV News, Unplugged, The Real World, and plenty more are examples that when things happened on MTV, the world took notice. It wasn't just a handful of ardent fans that were paying attention.
But now, MTV is just another channel among hundreds. It does nothing to stand out or be different. It's safe, homogenized, inoffensive programming that's easy to digest and doesn't challenge anyone to think too hard. It does nothing to capture today's youth and their ideals, unlike what it was in its heyday. Or maybe, sadly, it does capture today's youth, by knowing its audience is looking for quick blips of entertainment while they're looking up from their cellphones. It's a generation raised on Snapchat and Vine, so asking someone to dedicate 30 minutes of their lives to one means of entertainment is asking too much.
Remember, there was a time in the 1990s when the VMAs were maybe the second most important televised award show of the year, only behind the Academy Awards. The VMAs drew the big names, the big acts, got eyes, and had people talking. But over the last decade, the VMAs, like MTV as a network, has regressed to the pack and is no different than the countless award shows that air yearly. Nobody cares anymore. When's the last time something that happened at the VMAs captivated the nation? My best guess is when Kanye West stormed the stage and snatched the microphone from Taylor Swift in 2009. That's seven years ago. Since then, what have they given people to care about? And that's the problem with MTV as a whole right now and why ratings may be declining - because they've not given people anything to care about.
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Post by MiLB Fan on Dec 11, 2016 19:12:46 GMT -5
What does the M even stand for anymore? Moronic? Misguided? Meaningless? It doesn't really stand for anything now, since they dropped "Music Television" from the logo a few years ago. But it's such a well-known brand, so Viacom will just stick with it. I was more of a VH1 guy. Before "celebreality" turned the channel into absolute shit, I watched CardioVideo while getting ready for school. I enjoyed their countdown shows, like the 100 Most Shocking Moments in Rock & Roll, or the 100 Greatest One-Hit Wonders. I liked the "most awesomely bad song" series, even though I liked many of the songs that they made fun of. The promos for Insomniac Music Theater scared the hell out of me.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 11, 2016 19:33:27 GMT -5
Thank god that they decided to bring in MTV Classic. It may be one of the only benefits of everyone being obsessed with nostalgia now.
Of course, I figure in about 6 months they'll just make it an entire channel devoted to Taylor Swift, and that'll be it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 20:26:21 GMT -5
It's the same decline of every cable channel in the past fifthteen years, themed programming gets low ratings, original programming is expensive, all channels are losing their branding, so every channel plays the same eight movies and reruns of That 70s Show. No wonder people are cord cutting.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 11, 2016 20:48:07 GMT -5
Thank god that they decided to bring in MTV Classic. It may be one of the only benefits of everyone being obsessed with nostalgia now. Of course, I figure in about 6 months they'll just make it an entire channel devoted to Taylor Swift, and that'll be it. So essentially like Boomerang where they ran all their old cartoons and now you hardly get any of that unless you are a night owl and catch Flintstones at 4am. No more Wacky Races or Inch High Private Eye.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 21:29:54 GMT -5
Personally im a huge fan of the Scream TV Series
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Post by willywonka666 on Dec 11, 2016 21:57:26 GMT -5
It's the same decline of every cable channel in the past fifthteen years, themed programming gets low ratings, original programming is expensive, all channels are losing their branding, so every channel plays the same eight movies and reruns of That 70s Show. No wonder people are cord cutting. So they've thrown up their hands basically? It doesn't seem like they're making any effort at all. I remember behind the scenes specials and how much fun it looked. I can't imagine it's remotely fun or interesting now
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 22:39:50 GMT -5
It's the same decline of every cable channel in the past fifthteen years, themed programming gets low ratings, original programming is expensive, all channels are losing their branding, so every channel plays the same eight movies and reruns of That 70s Show. No wonder people are cord cutting. So they've thrown up their hands basically? It doesn't seem like they're making any effort at all. I remember behind the scenes specials and how much fun it looked. I can't imagine it's remotely fun or interesting now Pretty much. Ratings are so low these days it's cheaper to just play Fight Club. Kids these days can get better content thats at their fingertips with YouTube, any music video, viral programming with the latest internet celebs, channels like MTV are obsolete. There's no reason to stay up til Midnight on Sundays to watch Matt Pinfield play good indie rock on 120 Minutes.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Dec 11, 2016 22:59:10 GMT -5
I even loved the Making the Video specials, True Life, The Diary of J. Lo, Chris Rock, Britney Spears, etc. FANatic, and on and on.
Pander to the lowest common denominator.
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Post by King Boo on Dec 11, 2016 23:38:35 GMT -5
MTV Classic is such a colossal let down, I can't even begin to put it into words.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Dec 11, 2016 23:40:25 GMT -5
MTV had its place in time. It was revolutionary and game changing. It hasn't been "revolutionary" since the early 90's . It's a pop culture version of Food Network right now.
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