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Post by Garyspivey on Jan 12, 2019 8:49:48 GMT -5
After listening to this weeks show with Dr Death’s return idea. I can’t believe that Vince just kept the Tensai gimmick in the bullpen for like 15 years before he used it for real
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Post by chazraps on Jan 13, 2019 3:54:01 GMT -5
After listening to this weeks show with Dr Death’s return idea. I can’t believe that Vince just kept the Tensai gimmick in the bullpen for like 15 years before he used it for real Makes me wish they would have written Tensai off TV by bringing back Bart Gunn for a night to knock him out.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 13, 2019 14:38:16 GMT -5
After listening to this weeks show with Dr Death’s return idea. I can’t believe that Vince just kept the Tensai gimmick in the bullpen for like 15 years before he used it for real Wait what??
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 13, 2019 14:39:09 GMT -5
Royal Rumble 99 episode up now, Royal Rumble 2004 episode will probably be up next week
Followed by a biography of either Yokozuna or Sid the week after.
Not sure about Yoko but Sid deserves a full episode just for his insanity.
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Post by cjh on Jan 13, 2019 14:50:05 GMT -5
After listening to this weeks show with Dr Death’s return idea. I can’t believe that Vince just kept the Tensai gimmick in the bullpen for like 15 years before he used it for real Wait what?? On this week's show, Bruce said that in early-1999, the plan was for him to manage Steve Williams in a gimmick similar to Tensai. Bruce was going to paint his face white (like Akio Sato as Hakushi's manager) and cut promos in a Japanese accent. They apparently did one promo together at a Raw for the live audience, and that was the end of it. He also said Vince still wanted to use Williams after the Brawl for All loss but insisted he had to be repackaged, leading to this idea.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 13, 2019 14:59:38 GMT -5
On this week's show, Bruce said that in early-1999, the plan was for him to manage Steve Williams in a gimmick similar to Tensai. Bruce was going to paint his face white (like Akio Sato as Hakushi's manager) and cut promos in a Japanese accent. They apparently did one promo together at a Raw for the live audience, and that was the end of it. He also said Vince still wanted to use Williams after the Brawl for All loss but insisted he had to be repackaged, leading to this idea. Now that you mention it I remember watching Williams work with the mask in Memphis. Only Vince would think that shit would go over lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 15:15:28 GMT -5
On this week's show, Bruce said that in early-1999, the plan was for him to manage Steve Williams in a gimmick similar to Tensai. Bruce was going to paint his face white (like Akio Sato as Hakushi's manager) and cut promos in a Japanese accent. They apparently did one promo together at a Raw for the live audience, and that was the end of it. He also said Vince still wanted to use Williams after the Brawl for All loss but insisted he had to be repackaged, leading to this idea. when Williams returned after the Brawl-For-All, he was actually wearing a kabuki mask and orange jumpsuit with a yin-yang on it. At least that random ass outfit makes more sense now apologies for the crap quality, couldn't find a better version: Dr Death's return
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Post by chazraps on Jan 13, 2019 16:12:18 GMT -5
On this week's show, Bruce said that in early-1999, the plan was for him to manage Steve Williams in a gimmick similar to Tensai. Bruce was going to paint his face white (like Akio Sato as Hakushi's manager) and cut promos in a Japanese accent. They apparently did one promo together at a Raw for the live audience, and that was the end of it. He also said Vince still wanted to use Williams after the Brawl for All loss but insisted he had to be repackaged, leading to this idea. when Williams returned after the Brawl-For-All, he was actually wearing a kabuki mask and orange jumpsuit with a yin-yang on it. At least that random ass outfit makes more sense now apologies for the crap quality, couldn't find a better version: Dr Death's returnI think any footage of this counts as crap quality. Wow, that really, really sucked. Like, the mask is dumb, and the (as I'm sure they were described) "Japanese arm movements," and then after the attack the camera just stays for a long shot on dr. death as he's walking away seemingly out of character like he just doesn't give the faintest hoot. I have no memory of this, and seeing this now this has to be a bottom 5 all time re-debut.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 13, 2019 19:42:52 GMT -5
when Williams returned after the Brawl-For-All, he was actually wearing a kabuki mask and orange jumpsuit with a yin-yang on it. At least that random ass outfit makes more sense now apologies for the crap quality, couldn't find a better version: Dr Death's returnI think any footage of this counts as crap quality. Wow, that really, really sucked. Like, the mask is dumb, and the (as I'm sure they were described) "Japanese arm movements," and then after the attack the camera just stays for a long shot on dr. death as he's walking away seemingly out of character like he just doesn't give the faintest hoot. I have no memory of this, and seeing this now this has to be a bottom 5 all time re-debut. This. Jim Ross shoot promo on how bad the gimmick was legendary. There was money with using Dr Death, unfortunately Russo came with the stupid brawl for all, then Vince had the genius idea of turning him into that shit.
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Post by burdette25159 on Jan 13, 2019 20:40:10 GMT -5
On this week's show, Bruce said that in early-1999, the plan was for him to manage Steve Williams in a gimmick similar to Tensai. Bruce was going to paint his face white (like Akio Sato as Hakushi's manager) and cut promos in a Japanese accent. They apparently did one promo together at a Raw for the live audience, and that was the end of it. He also said Vince still wanted to use Williams after the Brawl for All loss but insisted he had to be repackaged, leading to this idea. Thank goodness It didn't make TV. This was 6 years after the controversy surrounding Yokozuna destroying "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan that led to it not being shown in the Los Angeles market.
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Post by theironyuppie on Jan 14, 2019 3:44:51 GMT -5
Thought it was a pretty interesting episode if not one of their best. Highlights for me were the digressions about Steve Williams being a broken man after Brawl for All (plus that idiotic attempt at a reboot) and the aside about WWF's astounding VHS business in 1998/99, with 8 out of the top ten best-selling VHS tapes at the time being WWF tapes.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 14, 2019 6:35:40 GMT -5
We go a few episodes without Conrad doing anything annoying, and then along comes the Rumble '99 episode.
Conrad: You just confirmed that Ryan Shamrock was hired from a strip club.
Bruce: No, she was dating a guy I knew who worked at the strip club.
Conrad: But she was hired from the strip club.
Bruce: She wasn't a stripper. She didn't work there. Her boyfriend worked there.
Conrad: You're so full of shit, this is why even your family don't like you.
I'm paraphrasing, but that was the gist of it, and shit like that just makes me want to rage quit the show. It's so goddamn aggravating.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 7:03:42 GMT -5
We go a few episodes without Conrad doing anything annoying, and then along comes the Rumble '99 episode. Conrad: You just confirmed that Ryan Shamrock was hired from a strip club. Bruce: No, she was dating a guy I knew who worked at the strip club. Conrad: But she was hired from the strip club. Bruce: She wasn't a stripper. She didn't work there. Her boyfriend worked there. Conrad: You're so full of shit, this is why even your family don't like you. I'm paraphrasing, but that was the gist of it, and shit like that just makes me want to rage quit the show. It's so goddamn aggravating. It's that salacious garbage and ridiculous fight picking that makes me not listen all that often
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Jan 14, 2019 7:12:18 GMT -5
We go a few episodes without Conrad doing anything annoying, and then along comes the Rumble '99 episode. Conrad: You just confirmed that Ryan Shamrock was hired from a strip club. Bruce: No, she was dating a guy I knew who worked at the strip club. Conrad: But she was hired from the strip club. Bruce: She wasn't a stripper. She didn't work there. Her boyfriend worked there. Conrad: You're so full of shit, this is why even your family don't like you. I'm paraphrasing, but that was the gist of it, and shit like that just makes me want to rage quit the show. It's so goddamn aggravating. There are times like this where they try too hard to create manufactured friction. And both of them have done it. Just makes the one starting the “conflict” look like a dumb motherf***er. And I know you read that last word in the Jim Cornette voice.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 8:25:16 GMT -5
On this week's show, Bruce said that in early-1999, the plan was for him to manage Steve Williams in a gimmick similar to Tensai. Bruce was going to paint his face white (like Akio Sato as Hakushi's manager) and cut promos in a Japanese accent. They apparently did one promo together at a Raw for the live audience, and that was the end of it. He also said Vince still wanted to use Williams after the Brawl for All loss but insisted he had to be repackaged, leading to this idea. So...........Brother Love ruined the Tensai gimmick?
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Post by horsemen4ever on Jan 14, 2019 21:13:54 GMT -5
In 1999, Vince still trying to heel up Japan. He wasn't even alive during WWII yet still, he can't let it go. If they did this with Dr. Death being a big Japanese fan, he be a face to me.
Another thing they talked about in the last episode, the Chyna hell turn 2 month before HHH turned. I have being trying to create my own kayfabe cannon for what happened. Chyna initial reason was to get the spotlight, only for HHH to join 2 months later and all of a sudden she is more of a background than she was in DX. So two possibilities.
1) Giving HHH some tough love, he has gotten too soft, and this was a wakeup call for him to get back to focus on the main goal for getting to the top.
2) HHH sent in her as a mole, to gage if the Cooperation had interest in him, in what they would pay him.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 16, 2019 16:32:05 GMT -5
Funniest Meltzer burial ever, read by Conrad.
“If you want to see the definition of not getting over, then watch Jeff Jarrett wearing the Mayan outfit.”
Bruce: Unfortunately I agree with Meltzer here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 7:36:18 GMT -5
Funniest Meltzer burial ever, read by Conrad. “If you want to see the definition of not getting over, then watch Jeff Jarrett wearing the Mayan outfit.” Bruce: Unfortunately I agree with Meltzer here. even Jarrett's 1st theme music in that Mayan outfit buried himself: "There's all the great WWF superstars, and then there's.... me!"
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Post by blissified on Jan 17, 2019 10:59:00 GMT -5
Anyone been to a live STWW and what exactly do they talk about that they can't on the podcast?
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Post by abjordans on Jan 17, 2019 12:25:54 GMT -5
Anyone been to a live STWW and what exactly do they talk about that they can't on the podcast? I have been to two and they don’t really talk about much they can’t talk about on the podcast. They only loosely stick to a topic, they mostly just bullshit about with whatever guest they have. The one at WM 33 was loosely based on WM24, but the one I went to last year in New Orleans I don’t even think had a topic. Or if it did, I missed it. They all seemed pretty hammered at that one to be honest.
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