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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 4, 2017 11:37:16 GMT -5
I gotta give it to Mr. TNA AJ Styles.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 4, 2017 12:35:13 GMT -5
Lashley. Either reign.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 4, 2017 17:56:20 GMT -5
AJ Styles Honorable mentions: Austin Aries, Kurt Angle, Robert Roode, Bubba Ray Dudley, Bobby Lashley, and Jeff Jarrett. Aries didn't have that good of a reign, but I think he had the best title win in the company's history. But then, I say that as far from a TNA diehard.
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Post by benstudd on Jan 4, 2017 19:59:46 GMT -5
I've seen the name of Samoa Joe but as great as he's been during some periods in TNA, I have trouble remembering anything in his run with the belt.
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Jan 5, 2017 2:47:14 GMT -5
I've seen the name of Samoa Joe but as great as he's been during some periods in TNA, I have trouble remembering anything in his run with the belt. Other than absolutely owning Booker T (After being constantly told that he couldn't beat Booker by his sudden buddy/mentor, Kevin Nash), there really wasn't much to say about Joe's title reign. He suddenly went from being portrayed as a bad ass to being whiny and undeserving of his title win. His title run really only amounted to the win and being the beginning of the Main Event Mafia storyline, as he symbolized the "no respect having young punks" of TNA.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jan 5, 2017 3:09:59 GMT -5
obviously its Jeff Jarrett. i mean you don't get six runs with the title without having the goods to back it up...unless there was some other reason he kept getting the belt. but what?
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jan 5, 2017 5:03:05 GMT -5
I've seen the name of Samoa Joe but as great as he's been during some periods in TNA, I have trouble remembering anything in his run with the belt. Other than absolutely owning Booker T (After being constantly told that he couldn't beat Booker by his sudden buddy/mentor, Kevin Nash), there really wasn't much to say about Joe's title reign. He suddenly went from being portrayed as a bad ass to being whiny and undeserving of his title win. His title run really only amounted to the win and being the beginning of the Main Event Mafia storyline, as he symbolized the "no respect having young punks" of TNA. He was the first champion to retain his title in the King of the Mountain match. Was there live, almost got hit by a ladder when Rhyno and maybe Roode were fighting near the barrier.
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Post by benstudd on Jan 5, 2017 5:08:43 GMT -5
I've seen the name of Samoa Joe but as great as he's been during some periods in TNA, I have trouble remembering anything in his run with the belt. Other than absolutely owning Booker T (After being constantly told that he couldn't beat Booker by his sudden buddy/mentor, Kevin Nash), there really wasn't much to say about Joe's title reign. He suddenly went from being portrayed as a bad ass to being whiny and undeserving of his title win. His title run really only amounted to the win and being the beginning of the Main Event Mafia storyline, as he symbolized the "no respect having young punks" of TNA. John Romita Jr. in his prime in your sig. *bow*
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 5:10:18 GMT -5
VACANT!!
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Jan 5, 2017 21:50:39 GMT -5
Other than absolutely owning Booker T (After being constantly told that he couldn't beat Booker by his sudden buddy/mentor, Kevin Nash), there really wasn't much to say about Joe's title reign. He suddenly went from being portrayed as a bad ass to being whiny and undeserving of his title win. His title run really only amounted to the win and being the beginning of the Main Event Mafia storyline, as he symbolized the "no respect having young punks" of TNA. He was the first champion to retain his title in the King of the Mountain match. Was there live, almost got hit by a ladder when Rhyno and maybe Roode were fighting near the barrier. Fair enough. I completely forgot about that, but unfortunately, that was the high point of a very short reign.
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Post by wingedeagle on Jan 6, 2017 3:17:42 GMT -5
A lot of people like to hate on Jarrett because most of them drink the WWE kool-aid. While some people like me were annoyed by Jarrett's Triple H-like reigns, they were a necessary evil because he was the biggest name in the company. It wasn't until Sting came to TNA to give them credibility that Jarrett gave the torch to him and hasn't been world champion since then which was 10 years ago!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 4:05:30 GMT -5
A lot of people like to hate on Jarrett because most of them drink the WWE kool-aid. While some people like me were annoyed by Jarrett's Triple H-like reigns, they were a necessary evil because he was the biggest name in the company. It wasn't until Sting came to TNA to give them credibility that Jarrett gave the torch to him and hasn't been world champion since then which was 10 years ago! Actually no. If I wanted too, I could probably name 10 people who were bigger name then Jarrett when he was champion. Also you forget that the only reason why Jarrett was champion was because he was booking the show. Once Dixie found her new shiny toy aka Kurt Angle and Jarrett started losing power, was when he stop been champion in TNA. It has nothing to do with people drinking WWE Kool Aid.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jan 6, 2017 5:47:38 GMT -5
He was the first champion to retain his title in the King of the Mountain match. Was there live, almost got hit by a ladder when Rhyno and maybe Roode were fighting near the barrier. Fair enough. I completely forgot about that, but unfortunately, that was the high point of a very short reign. Agreed. I just have fond memories because his title reign came right when I had enough disposable income and the ppvs were close enough for me to travel to two months in a row.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jan 6, 2017 15:50:12 GMT -5
A lot of people like to hate on Jarrett because most of them drink the WWE kool-aid. While some people like me were annoyed by Jarrett's Triple H-like reigns, they were a necessary evil because he was the biggest name in the company. It wasn't until Sting came to TNA to give them credibility that Jarrett gave the torch to him and hasn't been world champion since then which was 10 years ago! The first half year he spent after losing the title he wasn't even an on-air talent because he wanted to focus on growing TNA in a business capacity,, and the last eight of those years he's held zero power in the company due to the Karen fiasco and Dixie's power grab. The guy doesn't get "he didn't book himself to be champ" points during a period where he held zero power in the company.
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Post by wingedeagle on Jan 7, 2017 18:21:58 GMT -5
BS. WWE had gone out of their way to bury Jarrett the moment he left the company (as he was smart enough to get back the money that was owed to him like Warrior did) with their propaganda (the Kool-Aid) because the egomaniac doesn't like to get one-upped. Now, every time Double J gets talked about, somebody always has to bring up that retarded Mike Graham quote.
Ironically, Jarrett turned out to be a better world champion than most of the jokers in the WWE.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Jan 7, 2017 18:47:42 GMT -5
I don't need to drink kool-aid, I was watching Nitro in 2000 and as a 12 year old thought it was a joke Jarrett was the world champion. As an adult rewatching Nitro on the Network, it's even worse. Kevin Nash and DDP were on the TNA roster in 2004-5 and would've been more credible champions than Jarrett.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Jan 8, 2017 6:18:46 GMT -5
BS. WWE had gone out of their way to bury Jarrett the moment he left the company (as he was smart enough to get back the money that was owed to him like Warrior did) with their propaganda (the Kool-Aid) because the egomaniac doesn't like to get one-upped. Now, every time Double J gets talked about, somebody always has to bring up that retarded Mike Graham quote. Ironically, Jarrett turned out to be a better world champion than most of the jokers in the WWE. It has nothing to do with "Kool-Aid", in fact I'd reverse that charge. I mean you said they had no one else until Sting who was credible. But IMO that's a TNA fed statement. They had Rhino, who was still fairly young, talented, and had a known history and most importantly was over as rover, and even though he came from other places he was easily moldable into a TNA guy because of how he left the WWF and how he showed up in TNA. When he won the title it was an awesome moment that was immediately erased. That's who you need as a veteran, not somebody who reminds you their better days were elsewhere, but somebody who reminds you this place is new and different and gives deserving people a chance they didn't get elsewhere. Austin and Foley in the WWF, Hall and Nash in WCW, heck they even did that themselves later right for the most part with Christian. Raven was already established and over and Monty Brown, Samoa Joe and AJ Styles were ready. I mean Styles joined TNA a month before Cena appeared on RAW and Cena was built up to be a champion, so maybe that there says a lot about how TNA under Jarrett's cronies was cancered from the start. It's like Jarret had to be one up on Trips in the "I am burdened with being champion because nobody else is quite at my level yet, but keep trying guys we promise not to kick your legs out from you until you're white hot." That unfotunately is Jarrett's championship legacy. He is like diet Triple H. He is an excellent talent scout and behind the scenes guy, but their on screen personas cannot get anyone over who is not already over or make any new stars in the ring.
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Post by wingedeagle on Jan 9, 2017 11:13:36 GMT -5
Nash was injury prone and DDP was too injured to work that kind of schedule. Jarrett was a good worker, knew how to get heat, wasn't injury prone, and was reliable hence the main event run that he got and made it work. The fact you're STILL antsy about it only proves how good of a heel he is.
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Post by bob on Jan 15, 2017 11:46:22 GMT -5
the short list to me comes down to Jeff Jarrett, Christian, Kurt Angle, AJ Styles, Bully Ray and Bobby Roode
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 15:02:00 GMT -5
Nash was injury prone and DDP was too injured to work that kind of schedule. Jarrett was a good worker, knew how to get heat, wasn't injury prone, and was reliable hence the main event run that he got and made it work. The fact you're STILL antsy about it only proves how good of a heel he is. OR it could be because Jarrett was constantly undercutting people and destroying their momentum. Everything in the company came back around to him during that time period whether it made sense or not, and Monty Brown, Abyss, Rhyno, R-Truth, Raven, whoever, pretty much anyone who could have been something wound up either beaten by Jarrett at a time when they should've gone over him or randomly became his flunky for no reason. Oftentimes both. Also, when Jarrett was the top heel in WCW, I was around 9 at the time and personally, my response to him wasn't, "Boo, I want the belt off him, boo!", it was, "This guy lost to Chyna, wow WCW sucks, I'm going to watch Raw." And indeed I watched a lot less WCW after Jarrett got there than I did beforehand. Plus even now looking back on old Jarrett stuff, he just plain does not entertain me. There've been times he has, but only ever in a midcard role. The guy had no business being a main-eventer.
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