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Post by Juice on Dec 21, 2016 22:52:53 GMT -5
My wife told me Monday, "I didn't really notice with that little guy around, but Cass is cute. I'd teach him some things." FAN, what have I done wrong?
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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Dec 21, 2016 22:54:59 GMT -5
I just like big, beefy boys going hard
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Post by MichaelMartini on Dec 21, 2016 23:13:36 GMT -5
I became a fan in the 80s so I'm biased but it makes kafabe sense that in a sport where the objective is to pin someone for a three count or make them submit that most of the guys would be huge. A David vs Goliath story is one of the best storylines in wrestling and you can't do that with 2 small guys. I like to see the flashy moves cruiser weights bring to the table but I'm just as entertained watching a hoss do power moves.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Dec 22, 2016 5:57:33 GMT -5
The OP hates big things so much they even made their font size really small.
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Post by msc on Dec 22, 2016 6:19:05 GMT -5
In Star Wars, Darth Vader comes out of the fog of battle and wrecks shit. In Jaws, the shark clears a beach in minutes. In Jurassic Park, everyone is f***ing terrified of the T. Rex, even the Raptors.
It's an adrenaline thing which is part of human nature, monsters suddenly appearing to do harm. So in pro-wrestling, the part of the shark, the T Rex or Vader is played by your Undertakers or Kanes or Vaders or all the great monsters that wipe out everything. So when someone new threatens to do that, like a Braun, human instinct is to naturally react.
I love my technical wrestling, but goodness, few things excite more in wrestling than a monster heel destroying everything in their path. It's hardwired into the soul.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 6:32:00 GMT -5
Surprised that "big, sweaty guys" jobber gif hasn't been posted.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 22, 2016 6:37:53 GMT -5
Sometimes you want pizza, sometimes you want a steak. I love Jushin Liger or Tiger Mask, but if I am in the mood to see Brock Lesnar beat the f*** out of Zach Gowen, that scratches an entirely different itch. Plus, I just love that Braun is like a boss in a beat 'em up game. If Mike Haggar had to beat him up in a subway, you wouldn't bat an eyelash at that. My wife told me Monday, "I didn't really notice with that little guy around, but Cass is cute. I'd teach him some things." FAN, what have I done wrong? She just wants to show him how to spell "soft" correctly.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 22, 2016 6:49:47 GMT -5
The problem is that people hear "hoss" and it stirs negative feelings and judgment about a wrestler. Hoss are not all the Big Daddy/Giant Haystacks type. The big lumbering masses of humanity of a bygone era. They can have as much athletic ability and ring talent as their smaller co-workers. Some show off that talent. Others are told to perform the traditional big man style by promoters because that is what they want. Me, I grew up in the 80's. The Golden age of the big man wrestler. Yeah, a majority of them sucked. But the spectacle of 2 big men going hard in the ring was what the fans wanted. And fans still pop for that.
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Post by taker1990 on Dec 22, 2016 6:51:26 GMT -5
If they are good enough then Yes they can be as big as they want but don't just hire guys because of their height and physique, it just doesn't work anymore.
You need big guys as well as technical guys to get a good blend and appeal to all the masses.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 7:57:33 GMT -5
Because they can wreck people. nough' said.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 22, 2016 7:59:34 GMT -5
We just love big sweaty mans
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Post by MrElijah on Dec 22, 2016 8:05:38 GMT -5
I'm give an example: Sid. What did you want to see him do? Beat the shit out of someone. Face? Heel? Didn't matter, someone was gonna get the Power Bomb and we all marked for it.
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Post by chronocross on Dec 22, 2016 8:07:00 GMT -5
I'm partial to big monster smashing people too, I like technical matches too but we don't need a whole show full of them either.
And Braun is okay, not my all time favorite but he definitely fits the role of bruiser really well, plus seeing him do that kip-up against Big Show impressed me.
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Post by eJm on Dec 22, 2016 9:08:29 GMT -5
Sometimes you want pizza, sometimes you want a steak. I love Jushin Liger or Tiger Mask, but if I am in the mood to see Brock Lesnar beat the f*** out of Zach Gowen, that scratches an entirely different itch. Plus, I just love that Braun is like a boss in a beat 'em up game. If Mike Haggar had to beat him up in a subway, you wouldn't bat an eyelash at that. Pretty much this, along with the analogy. Braun is being booked to his strengths which is all you want from a big man wrestler rather than being booked like Khali who barely ever looked intimidating because his hits looked like being whacked like pillows. Basically, as a big man, if you can do a job at making your hits look like they're killing people and your opponent can do the same, you will go far in the same way someone who is more technical or flippy can.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 22, 2016 9:25:52 GMT -5
I never cared what size a wrestler was, so long as they had charisma and entertained me.
Sometimes I feel like watching a Rey Mysterio or Daniel Bryan match. Other days I wanna watch Stan Hansen, Brock or Vader just wail on dudes. Wrestling needs variety, I would never want it to be all monsters or cruisers.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 22, 2016 10:42:20 GMT -5
You know the minute that Braun and Harper start wailing away on each other in the Rumble, people are going to f***ing mark.
The Big Guys are a Sometimes Food something that sounds less suggestive.
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Dec 22, 2016 11:34:51 GMT -5
Corbin, while not a GREAT worker, is a better one after about 3 years in the wrestling biz than 90% of big men before him within their first 3 years. He's gonna improve too
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 16:56:17 GMT -5
Corbin looks like shit in terms of presentation (lack of muscle, thin build, hairline is laughable) but he's been a solid worker for quite a while. The End of Days is objectively a midcard goober finisher but he makes it work. He also has a good understanding of how to play a heel, but his look detracts from that a bit.
Braun is on his way to the top. Like, that was a meme around here for a while, but he honestly plays his role to the hilt. He smashes shit and moves on, and his bushy beard hides his soft looking face.
I feel like he needs something to stand out from other hosses, though. Something to round out his presentation. No, not a f***ing sombrero!
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Post by Dub H on Dec 22, 2016 17:20:02 GMT -5
Corbin looks like shit in terms of presentation (lack of muscle, thin build, hairline is laughable) but he's been a solid worker for quite a while. The End of Days is objectively a midcard goober finisher but he makes it work. He also has a good understanding of how to play a heel, but his look detracts from that a bit. Braun is on his way to the top. Like, that was a meme around here for a while, but he honestly plays his role to the hilt. He smashes shit and moves on, and his bushy beard hides his soft looking face. I feel like he needs something to stand out from other hosses, though. Something to round out his presentation. No, not a f***ing sombrero! To be fair,as much as the concept of the end of days can be silly,it can look f***ing incredible in the right people(Kalisto and Ziggler) Sadly,i didnt find the awesome Kalisto one. The problem is when he has to pull down the opponent.But the Ziggler one for example,it just seems he caught Ziggler so hard,he was mid-flip.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 18:06:18 GMT -5
Corbin looks like shit in terms of presentation (lack of muscle, thin build, hairline is laughable) but he's been a solid worker for quite a while. The End of Days is objectively a midcard goober finisher but he makes it work. He also has a good understanding of how to play a heel, but his look detracts from that a bit. Braun is on his way to the top. Like, that was a meme around here for a while, but he honestly plays his role to the hilt. He smashes shit and moves on, and his bushy beard hides his soft looking face. I feel like he needs something to stand out from other hosses, though. Something to round out his presentation. No, not a f***ing sombrero! To be fair,as much as the concept of the end of days can be silly,it can look f***ing incredible in the right people(Kalisto and Ziggler) Sadly,i didnt find the awesome Kalisto one. The problem is when he has to pull down the opponent.But the Ziggler one for example,it just seems he caught Ziggler so hard,he was mid-flip. Exactly what I mean. He knows what he's doing out there. He's not setting the world on fire but he's got good fundamentals for a relatively new big guy.
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