Would you like a LuchaUnderground Episode with no wrestling?

[Woo]

So we have had I think around three episodes (Aztec Warfare I, All Night Long, Six to Survive) that had no backstage cutscenes at all and just 1 match last the entire show, but how would you feel if for one episode there was no wrestling at all and we just had the cutscenes?

I ask because while the wrestling on this weeks show was alright (which makes it poor by Lucha Underground's incredibly lofty standard) it was the least interesting part when compared with the Reptile Tribe attacking Fenix and Aerostar in the bathroom Drago being held prisoner and Crane retrieving an Ouija board from Dario's office and providing us with more Catrina backstory. Also in Season 1 I was so into the backstage scenes that I was so disappointed whenever they would come back from commercials and just have a match.

I know there was talk about Lucha Underground hoping to make movies or whatever but I would love instead for them to just do a 1 hour episode with nothing but backstage scenes, perhaps the week before an Ultima Lucha.

How would you guys feel about an episode without wrestling on?

[MolotovMocktail]

Jim Cornette and I come to a T in the road on Lucha Underground, but I do agree with him that when wrestling fans tune in to a wrestling show, it should have wrestlers in a wrestling ring, wrestling. That being said, I wouldn't be opposed to a companion piece focusing just on filling in the gaps, either a webisode, more volumes of the comic book, or even a movie, as was rumored back in Season 1.

[Captain Patren Fenderbaum-X]

I would love companion pieces/side stories during the seasonal breaks...all depending on where they are at the end of said season like what CW does with Vixen.

30min broken up into 5 minute episodes.

Show us what Joey Ryans dirty cop antics get him up to

Son Of Havok with his Biker gang and what goes on in that club

It does not have to tie into what happens in the temple unless they want it but it would be a small way to further character development and give the talent something to do in the off season that still relates to LU.

["Playboy" Don Douglas]

Personally, no. I typically enjoy the segments within the context of a wrestling show, and they typically work within that context.

But I don't think it would hold my interest outside of it, with no matches to break things up as well as further them and start new ones.

At the end of the day, I'm watching a wrestling show because I want to watch wrestling.

[kidkamikaze10]

I wouldn't mind a webisode, but beyond that, no.

It is a wrestling show.

[Mayonnaise]

Ehh...not sure. Maybe if they did something where say, Catrina told the story surrounding Mil, her, Crane, Puma and the different twists and turns or Dario doing something similar with Matanza and the Temple it might work but I'd still think they'd at least needs some clips to tie it all together.

[2coldMack is even more baffled]

Wait, I'm a newbie to LU, there's a COMIC BOOK? Where do I get it, and when, in the chronology of the show, should I read it?

[Captain Patren Fenderbaum-X]

Dec 22, 2016 19:26:16 GMT -5 2coldMack is even more baffled said:

Wait, I'm a newbie to LU, there's a COMIC BOOK? Where do I get it, and when, in the chronology of the show, should I read it?

They are posted on sites to read will update a link if I can find it.

The comics should be read after you complete season 1 and before season 2.

[Starshine]

No.

Honestly some of their backstage choreography and acting are some of the weaker aspects of LU. They're a nice window dressing to the rest of the show, but a whole show focused on them alone would further expose their problems.

[Rave]

There was an episode of the third season of NXT that had absolutely no wrestling. It was awful.

A wrestling show should have wrestling, otherwise, what's the point?

[rnrk supports BLM]

I think LU could pull off a Final Deletion-esque extended, cinematic action sequence that does things that wouldn't be possible when performing in front of a live crowd. Honestly, I'm surprised they haven't tried it already, especially considering both TNA and WWE (remember the New Day at the Wyatt compound?) have now done it, and their versions were obviously inspired by LU. We've gotten cinematic backstage fights, but they're all short and heavier on plot than action, not big featured segments like Matt Hardy's opuses.

So in that sense, I can imagine eventually getting a LU episode that didn't have any conventional wrestling matches in a ring in front of fans, but only if they still featured big, competitive sequences of crazy action.

[Woo]

Dec 22, 2016 19:26:16 GMT -5 2coldMack is even more baffled said:

Wait, I'm a newbie to LU, there's a COMIC BOOK? Where do I get it, and when, in the chronology of the show, should I read it?

Yeah there were 4 comic books given out to fans attending the shows and then put online.

They fill in events from seasons 1 and 2 and give you a lot of background information and they also feature the death of a season 1 wrestler and show you who really killed him.

It's funny that I view LU as a fantasy sci-fi show that just so happens to feature wrestling and for me the wrestling is the weaker aspect of the show as it just gets in the way of the incredible backstage segments and fights.

Guess it's got a bit of everything for everyone.

[________ has left the building]

A tv show about pro wrestling without any pro wrestling actually happen is Vince Russo's wet dream. That South Park episode about pro wrestling was more accurate than we want to admit. Bad enough that Broken Matt Hardy proves Russo's idea of people will watch wrestling not any actual wrestling and be happy about it. I have no problem with skits, promos, or vignettes. I do when that is a majority of the show. TNA had a notorious episode years ago ( The post 10-10-10 show) where there was only 10 minutes of wrestling. That bombed. Not matter how much LU spins it and how good the stories being told, people watch wrestling for wrestling.

[Allie Kitsune]

An entire episode? No. A 15-minute Youtube video or as a "special feature" when they finally decide to work out a deal to put out DVDs/Blu-Rays (seriously, get on that, LU)? More reasonable.

[HisRoyalGreeness]

Six seasons and a movie.

[2coldMack is even more baffled]

How would a Lucha Underground movie...work?

[Captain Patren Fenderbaum-X]

Dec 23, 2016 22:11:37 GMT -5 2coldMack is even more baffled said:

How would a Lucha Underground movie...work?

Base it on the original Aztec war and blend it with events taking place in modern times with what we know about who was around during those times.

[Woo]

Dec 23, 2016 7:44:53 GMT -5 ________ has left the building said:

A tv show about pro wrestling without any pro wrestling actually happen is Vince Russo's wet dream. That South Park episode about pro wrestling was more accurate than we want to admit. Bad enough that Broken Matt Hardy proves Russo's idea of people will watch wrestling not any actual wrestling and be happy about it. I have no problem with skits, promos, or vignettes. I do when that is a majority of the show. TNA had a notorious episode years ago ( The post 10-10-10 show) where there was only 10 minutes of wrestling. That bombed. Not matter how much LU spins it and how good the stories being told, people watch wrestling for wrestling.

You say Matt Hardy proves that people will watching wrestling with no wrestling but then say people watch wrestling for wrestling? What is it.


It's been said many a time that the wrestling is the least important part of a wrestling show and I'd agree with that. The stories and characters are far more important and I think a lot of people actually watch for that. The fact we've moved away from the episodic television aspect of Raw and the larger than life characters of 15 years ago and the ratings have dropped massively shows that a lot of people were not watching for the wrestling.

[________ has left the building]

Dec 24, 2016 5:39:30 GMT -5 Woo said:

Dec 23, 2016 7:44:53 GMT -5 ________ has left the building said:

A tv show about pro wrestling without any pro wrestling actually happen is Vince Russo's wet dream. That South Park episode about pro wrestling was more accurate than we want to admit. Bad enough that Broken Matt Hardy proves Russo's idea of people will watch wrestling not any actual wrestling and be happy about it. I have no problem with skits, promos, or vignettes. I do when that is a majority of the show. TNA had a notorious episode years ago ( The post 10-10-10 show) where there was only 10 minutes of wrestling. That bombed. Not matter how much LU spins it and how good the stories being told, people watch wrestling for wrestling.

You say Matt Hardy proves that people will watching wrestling with no wrestling but then say people watch wrestling for wrestling? What is it.


It's been said many a time that the wrestling is the least important part of a wrestling show and I'd agree with that. The stories and characters are far more important and I think a lot of people actually watch for that. The fact we've moved away from the episodic television aspect of Raw and the larger than life characters of 15 years ago and the ratings have dropped massively shows that a lot of people were not watching for the wrestling.

Broken Matt doesn't need a ring for it to work. Most of the wrestling is done without any formal ring present. Matt could eliminate all of the actual wrestling aspects of his current gimmick and still just be as over. And cable ratings are dropping because more peope are cutting the cord from cable and satellite. Meltzer and others don't mention that because it takes away from their talking points. Walking Dead's ratings are down from previous seasons. NFL football is down across the board. Those titans are being affected by cord cutting. What was considered low is high due to the shift. Raw is still one of the top rated shows on cable even with them getting half the Nielsen numbers from 5 years ago. People are still watching wrestling. Just the ways to do so has change. And LU's overall Nielsen number is less than TNA's and WWE loses more viewers in one segment than they get for the whole show. Does that make Lucha Underground a failure?

Pro wrestling is character and story driven. It is a morality play with physicality. But without the actual in ring wrestling part, it is just a play like "Death of a Saleman". Even the play "The Elaborate Entrance of Chad Deity" has actual in ring wrestling portions. LU needs actual matches to help tell and boost the angles that are happening. It's like a romantic movie without romance. Won't work.

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Dec 22, 2016 22:15:46 GMT -5 rnrk supports BLM said:

I think LU could pull off a Final Deletion-esque extended, cinematic action sequence that does things that wouldn't be possible when performing in front of a live crowd. Honestly, I'm surprised they haven't tried it already, especially considering both TNA and WWE (remember the New Day at the Wyatt compound?) have now done it, and their versions were obviously inspired by LU. We've gotten cinematic backstage fights, but they're all short and heavier on plot than action, not big featured segments like Matt Hardy's opuses.

So in that sense, I can imagine eventually getting a LU episode that didn't have any conventional wrestling matches in a ring in front of fans, but only if they still featured big, competitive sequences of crazy action.

That's actually a great idea. I wouldn't want an episode that was just story, as the combo of story and great matches are what make LU great. Doing something along the lines of the Broken stuff though would be good, where it's still technically wrestling just way more over the top.