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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Dec 27, 2016 4:59:05 GMT -5
Did WWW drop the ball with him.
It's like someone in creative thought "How can we make everyone hate this dweeb?. I know, he can talk in nothing but video game references."
Really it's sad because he's a good wrestler but WWE have really made people want to see him get beat up.
They also made me want to see Swan get beat up for using Royal Sourpuss as an insult.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 5:07:46 GMT -5
I don't think the gimmick's done him any favors but I don't think it was some big missed opportunity. Perkins has been around for a long time and he's always been just a good hand everywhere he's been, not someone you build a company or division around.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Dec 27, 2016 5:10:33 GMT -5
I don't think the gimmick's done him any favors but I don't think it was some big missed opportunity. Perkins has been around for a long time and he's always been just a good hand everywhere he's been, not someone you build a company or division around. I never saw world champion in him but I thought he was going to be the main cruiserweight rather than a jobber. Also could have been a nice Midgard contender for the IC and US titles. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 5:14:26 GMT -5
Really, the biggest failing with TJP is... The guy comes off like a massive tool. Which is good for a heel, he's good at channeling that into being an obnoxious prick, but as a face he has this persistent, "Why would anyone root for this guy?" hanging over him.
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Post by sabretooth on Dec 27, 2016 6:29:22 GMT -5
I don't think the gimmick's done him any favors but I don't think it was some big missed opportunity. Perkins has been around for a long time and he's always been just a good hand everywhere he's been, not someone you build a company or division around. I never saw world champion in him but I thought he was going to be the main cruiserweight rather than a jobber. Also could have been a nice Midgard contender for the IC and US titles. TJP vs Thor?  |
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Dec 27, 2016 6:39:30 GMT -5
I never saw world champion in him but I thought he was going to be the main cruiserweight rather than a jobber. Also could have been a nice Midgard contender for the IC and US titles. TJP vs Thor? Gah, blame my phones autocorrect for failing to recognise Midcard as a word  |
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Post by . on Dec 27, 2016 6:48:13 GMT -5
I was very wtf with that sourpuss line, Then I learned Vince is writings for the cruisers and 205 live and it all makes sense.
A man that incredibly out of touch should not be within 1,000 ft of a division that should come off as new and exciting.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 27, 2016 7:56:49 GMT -5
Just make an obnoxious hipster heel.
On purpose of course.
TJP just needs a better hook than "I was homeless and play video games". Go all out and make him a meme loving, elitist video game playing, video pretentious music snob. Be like Mauro and drop pop culture references during moments it is not needed. Constantly say his opponents are inferior because they don't know puroresu and lucha libre. Claim he only do 5 star performances.
But if they are going to keep him as a face, let him not speak in geek speak. TJP isn't exactly a strong talker but doing gamer cliches is killing him, Smalls.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 8:17:19 GMT -5
I don't understand why he's face in the first place. I watched his intro and maybe his first match in the CWC and he was an arrogant dick bag. I didn't see him again till the end, but suddenly we were supposed to like him because he was homeless? Nah, son.
He still dabs and still dresses like a d-bag, and no amount of dollar store knockoffs of Megaman 2 songs is going to fix that.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 27, 2016 8:26:46 GMT -5
He just has the face of a little jerk.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 27, 2016 8:28:24 GMT -5
He just has the face of a little jerk. There's a reason why they kept putting a mask on him. |
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Post by Dub H on Dec 27, 2016 8:39:41 GMT -5
He just has the face of a little jerk. There's a reason why they kept putting a mask on him. I think he has a pretty boy face. Straight opinion for disclosures sake. It is as waste to put a mask on him . But I can see " entitled young prick" written over his face as a heel |
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Dec 27, 2016 8:43:31 GMT -5
Now with Kendrick, Neville and soon Aries, we already have strong heels, so TJP would kinda pale next to them
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 27, 2016 8:48:02 GMT -5
There's a reason why they kept putting a mask on him. I think he has a pretty boy face. Straight opinion for disclosures sake. It is as waste to put a mask on him . But I can see " entitled young prick" written over his face as a heel Some people just got punchable faces. Miz and Slater are two of them. TJP is good looking but fans tend to hate pretty boys. Mostly the straight male fans. |
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Post by horseface on Dec 27, 2016 8:57:20 GMT -5
You'd think they'd emphasize his genuine underdog win of the CWC, scoring like four upsets in a row over Gargano, Swann, Ibushi and Metalik. But I feel like they barely mention that anymore(Do they? I don't watch all the time so maybe I'm wrong). They also have grounds for a heel turn with the fans' kind of cold response to his win, like they wanted someone else.
It's just standard WWE dragging everything down a few notches.
I also think they greatly overestimated how many guys would be interested in signing on for their Cruiserweight division.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 27, 2016 8:59:18 GMT -5
You'd think they'd emphasize his genuine underdog win of the CWC, scoring like four upsets in a row over Gargano, Swann, Ibushi and Metalik. But I feel like they barely mention that anymore(Do they? I don't watch all the time so maybe I'm wrong). They also have grounds for a heel turn with the fans' kind of cold response to his win, like they wanted someone else. It's just standard WWE dragging everything down a few notches. I think part of the charm of Perkins was that, he was an underdog on CWC. There is not big names for him to play that part, they tried Brian Kendrick , but he ain't exactly a big name |
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 27, 2016 9:10:21 GMT -5
You'd think they'd emphasize his genuine underdog win of the CWC, scoring like four upsets in a row over Gargano, Swann, Ibushi and Metalik. But I feel like they barely mention that anymore(Do they? I don't watch all the time so maybe I'm wrong). They also have grounds for a heel turn with the fans' kind of cold response to his win, like they wanted someone else. It's just standard WWE dragging everything down a few notches. I also think they greatly overestimated how many guys would be interested in signing on for their Cruiserweight division. WWE signed just about everyone involved in the CWC expect the 2 who suppose to be the spotlight players: Ibushi and ZSJ. The problems with the cruiserweights are most of the crowd don't know them or gives a damn about what they did before and almost everyone does the moves the cruisers do. This isn't 1997 Nitro where only the cruisers did crazy highflying moves. The current WWE roster is probably the most athletic one in WWE history. Seth Rollins does a Phoenix Splash on different occasions. Roman does diving planchas. Owens do frog splashes. All they got left is character work and most of them lack any. Reason why Jack Gallagher is breaking out. |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 27, 2016 10:56:03 GMT -5
You'd think they'd emphasize his genuine underdog win of the CWC, scoring like four upsets in a row over Gargano, Swann, Ibushi and Metalik. But I feel like they barely mention that anymore(Do they? I don't watch all the time so maybe I'm wrong). They also have grounds for a heel turn with the fans' kind of cold response to his win, like they wanted someone else. It's just standard WWE dragging everything down a few notches. I also think they greatly overestimated how many guys would be interested in signing on for their Cruiserweight division. WWE signed just about everyone involved in the CWC expect the 2 who suppose to be the spotlight players: Ibushi and ZSJ. The problems with the cruiserweights are most of the crowd don't know them or gives a damn about what they did before and almost everyone does the moves the cruisers do. This isn't 1997 Nitro where only the cruisers did crazy highflying moves. The current WWE roster is probably the most athletic one in WWE history. Seth Rollins does a Phoenix Splash on different occasions. Roman does diving planchas. Owens do frog splashes. All they got left is character work and most of them lack any. Reason why Jack Gallagher is breaking out. From the beginning, it felt like the tournament was made for Ibushi to win and to get him over, to the point where Mauro and Graves were even basically SPELLING IT OUT that the tournament was Ibushi's to win, HHH's oeuvre to bring in another big Japanese star. But then Ibushi left Hunter at the altar, preferring to keep his freelance lifestyle going, and out of who was left, TJP was the only one immediately available. Vince and Dunn ultimately took control over the cruiserweight division after the tournament, and TJP went from "Kind of an underdog, but with a bit of an arrogant douchebag undercurrent" to "Geek-ass Goober-ass Geek who just stepped out of an anime convention and acts half his age". |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 27, 2016 11:06:33 GMT -5
They should of kept him heel but they saw he had a good story and decided to go with it. The character has its flaws but either switch the dynamic around or turn him heel and you'll have better results
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 11:10:04 GMT -5
All they have to do is turn him heel and he'd be fine. The problem is that he continues to be face.
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