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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 29, 2016 12:18:23 GMT -5
....yet is just as offensive? Let's think of examples here too.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Dec 29, 2016 12:36:59 GMT -5
This begins and ends with eddiesploitation
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Post by Woo on Dec 29, 2016 12:52:00 GMT -5
I can't think of a positive one off the top of my head.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Dec 29, 2016 13:30:28 GMT -5
I guess I'm interpreting "positively" as trying to be respectful and what not, but still being exploitative. I've always found the Von Erich Tribute shows, particularly the 1984 David Von Erich Memorial Show at Texas Stadium to get dangerously close to crossing that line of honoring the dead to using it to try and draw a big crowd out of sympathy/guilt.
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Post by oj32 on Dec 29, 2016 13:41:17 GMT -5
Would the inflatable Titanic Water Slide qualify?
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Post by 魔界5号 on Dec 29, 2016 14:47:32 GMT -5
Um.. I guess the only one I can think of is Connor Michalek. Since he passed they've done a hell of a lot to help other children affected by the same thing and set up Connor's Cure.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Dec 29, 2016 16:07:05 GMT -5
I can't think of a positive one off the top of my head. Bret vs Benoit in WCW - Owen Hart tribute. |
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 29, 2016 16:25:08 GMT -5
I can't think of a positive one off the top of my head. Bret vs Benoit in WCW - Owen Hart tribute. Yeah that was a mostly pure version. It's hard to put most tribute shows in this category...some are done for profit, others to get heat off of them for the wrestler dying on their watch. So while they look like good intentions, there is still a black cloud. What is your opinion about when a company sugar coats their relationship with the deceased? How sincere do you think it can be? |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Dec 29, 2016 16:27:39 GMT -5
I can't think of a positive one off the top of my head. Bret vs Benoit in WCW - Owen Hart tribute. For that matter, any of the numerous "memorial" cards that have been held over the years, from the Brian Pillman to the Eddie Gilbert shows to many, many others. |
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 29, 2016 16:27:49 GMT -5
I guess I'm interpreting "positively" as trying to be respectful and what not, but still being exploitative. I've always found the Von Erich Tribute shows, particularly the 1984 David Von Erich Memorial Show at Texas Stadium to get dangerously close to crossing that line of honoring the dead to using it to try and draw a big crowd out of sympathy/guilt. Sadly, the selling of "autographed" David memorabilia would end this argument before it began. /By "autographed," apparently by Fritz, not David. |
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 29, 2016 16:31:40 GMT -5
Bret vs Benoit in WCW - Owen Hart tribute. For that matter, any of the numerous "memorial" cards that have been held over the years, from the Brian Pillman to the Eddie Gilbert shows to many, many others. Yeah, the Pillman shows would be an aversion....I haven't heard anything negative come out about them. Barring the Kevin asking for $1000 payment, the GWF had a good one for Kerry too, and it funded Holly and Lacey's scholarships. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 17:08:33 GMT -5
Wouldn't the Cornette story about the Ron Wright-Whitey Caldwell feud in Knoxville count?
Those two feuded until Whitey died in a car wreck. Ron takes the ball and vows to avenge Whitey's death against those he feuded with.
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Post by Woo on Dec 29, 2016 18:11:12 GMT -5
I can't think of a positive one off the top of my head. Bret vs Benoit in WCW - Owen Hart tribute. Excellent choice. Also whenever they hold tournaments in honour of wrestlers. |
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Dec 29, 2016 18:34:50 GMT -5
[quote author=" James Fabiano" source="/post What is your opinion about when a company sugar coats their relationship with the deceased? How sincere do you think it can be?[/quote] The only recent example I can think of is WWE and Ultimate Warrior. The creation of the Warrior Award, and revisionist history making him seem like an all-round good guy and the biggest star of the 80s. All very positive but a lot is being overlooked, including Warrior's published opinions on many things, his fall outs with the McMahon family, litigation and multiple walkouts . Not sure if it is insincerity on WWE's part, or simply that both sides had rebuilt enough bridges to enable WWE to focus on his best contributions only. Having said that, their support of Warrior's family feels genuine. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 30, 2016 4:20:15 GMT -5
[quote author=" James Fabiano" source="/post What is your opinion about when a company sugar coats their relationship with the deceased? How sincere do you think it can be? The only recent example I can think of is WWE and Ultimate Warrior. The creation of the Warrior Award, and revisionist history making him seem like an all-round good guy and the biggest star of the 80s. All very positive but a lot is being overlooked, including Warrior's published opinions on many things, his fall outs with the McMahon family, litigation and multiple walkouts . Not sure if it is insincerity on WWE's part, or simply that both sides had rebuilt enough bridges to enable WWE to focus on his best contributions only. Having said that, their support of Warrior's family feels genuine. [/quote] I guess they figure they came down hard enough on him in the Self Destruction stuff to not want to harp on that anymore. |
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Post by Mackenzie Gorn on Dec 30, 2016 4:42:10 GMT -5
ECW 48 times this year.
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Post by Ted Sheckler on Dec 30, 2016 5:03:14 GMT -5
I have a question about the tribute shows. If you do a tribute show for a wrestler that has died without permission from the persons family can any legal ramification come from it?
For example what is stopping the local indy that draws 25 people approaching Lanny Poffo, booking him for an event and doing a "Randy Savage Memorial Cup Tournament" show in an attempt to draw more money?
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Post by willywonka666 on Dec 30, 2016 9:19:03 GMT -5
I guess I'm interpreting "positively" as trying to be respectful and what not, but still being exploitative. I've always found the Von Erich Tribute shows, particularly the 1984 David Von Erich Memorial Show at Texas Stadium to get dangerously close to crossing that line of honoring the dead to using it to try and draw a big crowd out of sympathy/guilt. Sadly, the selling of "autographed" David memorabilia would end this argument before it began. /By "autographed," apparently by Fritz, not David. OMG you're kidding. What else is there to this story and event? |
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