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Post by ronin705 on Oct 5, 2019 21:55:14 GMT -5
I know it's fanservice, but i do like the direction of Dragonball Heroes going multiversal. Cumber, Golden Metal Cooler, and the SSJ4 cameos have all been dope.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 23:50:31 GMT -5
One of my main issues with the current manga story arc is the fact that it emphasized new combatants to deal with the Moro threat, but instead shovels them away so we don't have to worry about anyone potentially threatening the Goku/Vegeta dynamic. {Spoiler}Especially given that Merus is an Angel and incapable of actually participating in conflict, and all of the Daikaioh's true powers were given to Kid Buu and therefore are residing within Uub, who won't factor into this story for obvious reasons. So, if it wasn't for an interesting villain, we'd just be dealing with the same old, same old.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 10:57:10 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Well, Merus, I'd care more about your sacrifice and self-destruction if it wasn't just so ol' Goku got stronger. But the latest chapter felt more like kneecapping Moro more than helping Goku finally perfect Ultra Instinct.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2020 11:26:50 GMT -5
Latest Chapter: {Spoiler} Goku has finally perfected Ultra Instinct, and has shown Moro no mercy. But, because he is in Ultra Instinct, he has decided he will be the one to execute Moro, which worries even Beerus.
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Post by chrom on Sept 18, 2020 12:07:15 GMT -5
Latest Chapter: {Spoiler}{Spoiler} Goku has finally perfected Ultra Instinct, and has shown Moro no mercy. But, because he is in Ultra Instinct, he has decided he will be the one to execute Moro, which worries even Beerus. They need to finish this arc already, its been going on a long time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2020 12:38:06 GMT -5
Latest Chapter: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Goku has finally perfected Ultra Instinct, and has shown Moro no mercy. But, because he is in Ultra Instinct, he has decided he will be the one to execute Moro, which worries even Beerus. They need to finish this arc already, its been going on a long time. Ah, at this point, they're just smelling their own farts. I said almost a year ago this arc had a lot of great potential but they didn't want to upset the dynamic they have had for decades, and it looks like we're going to be heading towards something that involves the same two characters once more.
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Post by ronin705 on Sept 19, 2020 16:25:13 GMT -5
As I stated before, Heroes is my preferred canon at this point due to this new arcs dragging of its feet. Plus, Toriyama needs to stop hating on 'GeetZ
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Sept 19, 2020 19:52:45 GMT -5
They need to finish this arc already, its been going on a long time. Ah, at this point, they're just smelling their own farts. I said almost a year ago this arc had a lot of great potential but they didn't want to upset the dynamic they have had for decades, and it looks like we're going to be heading towards something that involves the same two characters once more. Pandemic means I stopped paying attention. Last I knew it looked as though 3 things were being built towards: 1) Gohan was going to level up to severely thin out Moro’s forces and take the fight to Moro himself 2) that rogue angel would help Goku finally perfect ultra instinct. I expected that would prove sufficient to keep Moro at bay but insufficient, after absorbing Gohan’s power, to actually defeat Moro. 3) Vegeta would finally arrive having actually perfected ki control. He slaps around Moro, but Moro is faking him out hoping to trick Vegeta into dropping his guard so he can steal his energy so he could have enough to beat UI Goku. Unfortunately for Moro, that will be what Vegeta was wanting him to try. When Moro made his move, Vegeta used the connection and his control over ki to drain Moro dry. At that point, anyone can take out Moro, which will be good because Vegetawould be busy try to contain all of the energy he absorbed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 9:48:18 GMT -5
So, as a tradition, Toyataro shows a preview of the latest chapter in its sketch form before it becomes released. {Spoiler} And Goku decides to make it a fair fight for Moro by giving him a Senzu bean if Moro wants to live. I mean... if Goku can kill him at full strength, okay, but what's stopping Toriyama and Toyataro from pulling off another ass pull with Moro? I like Moro as a character, but I feel like we really need to wrap things up and focus more on the side effects of Goku perfecting Ultra Instinct instead.
Naturally, Twitter has had a field day with this.
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Post by chrom on Oct 13, 2020 9:55:26 GMT -5
God damn it
They really have butchered Goku's character in Super.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2020 12:49:38 GMT -5
Ever have one of those moments where you ask "why am I still reading this?"
Today was that moment.
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Post by chrom on Oct 23, 2020 14:54:46 GMT -5
Frankly I blame TFS for causing everyone, even Toriyama to think that Goku is an idiot who would recklessly put and endanger the lives of others over the sake of a good match.
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Post by eJm on Oct 23, 2020 14:55:47 GMT -5
Frankly I blame TFS for causing everyone, even Toriyama to think that Goku is an idiot who would recklessly put and endanger the lives of others over the sake of a good match. ...I mean, it came from the actual source material so...
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Oct 23, 2020 21:00:19 GMT -5
Frankly I blame TFS for causing everyone, even Toriyama to think that Goku is an idiot who would recklessly put and endanger the lives of others over the sake of a good match. ...I mean, it came from the actual source material so... Yeah, TFS turned that to an 11, but it was already at a 9.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Oct 23, 2020 22:16:43 GMT -5
God damn it They really have butchered Goku's character in Super. At this point it's not even a curve ball. You know this is how this plays out. I'm not done with it and I'm still with it for the most part. I can just see where bad booking took over. I could go on for days about this. We had so much promise with Vegeta ascending, Buu being relevant, and the potential of Broly. If Goku can go from base form to MUI, what is the point. The one thing stopping him from stomping a villain's ears together is his apprehension to finished the fight when he should. And that it isn't fun. It makes new techniques and character sacrifices pointless.
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Post by dav on Oct 23, 2020 22:54:22 GMT -5
Frankly I blame TFS for causing everyone, even Toriyama to think that Goku is an idiot who would recklessly put and endanger the lives of others over the sake of a good match. ...I mean, it came from the actual source material so... This was the guy who threw his first born son to the wolves for the sake of a good fight after all.
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Post by RKTaker on Oct 24, 2020 11:04:22 GMT -5
Frankly I blame TFS for causing everyone, even Toriyama to think that Goku is an idiot who would recklessly put and endanger the lives of others over the sake of a good match. are you really gonna forget about Goku not wanting to kill Vegeta at the end of the Saiyan Saga, or giving Frieza his energy after Frieza was cut in half. it's not a TFS thing
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Post by lionheart21 on Oct 24, 2020 11:50:13 GMT -5
...I mean, it came from the actual source material so... This was the guy who threw his first born son to the wolves for the sake of a good fight after all. I’ve honestly been done with Goku ever since that. I mean, say what you will about Vegeta’s arrogance allowing Cell to achieve Perfect form, but he was fighting that battle himself. He didn’t do that so that Trunks could have that. Also, that may be my personal favorite moment in DBZ Abridged, where Gohan basically is wondering what the hell is wrong with him
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Post by ronin705 on Oct 24, 2020 12:53:32 GMT -5
Frankly I blame TFS for causing everyone, even Toriyama to think that Goku is an idiot who would recklessly put and endanger the lives of others over the sake of a good match. This is honestly why I'm so shocked that tori and FUNimation loathe TFS. In reality, the series resurgence in popularity in the west IS because of them smh
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Oct 24, 2020 14:06:02 GMT -5
This was the guy who thr pasthis first born son to the wolves for the sake of a good fight after all. I’ve honestly been done with Goku ever since that. I mean, say what you will about Vegeta’s arrogance allowing Cell to achieve Perfect form, but he was fighting that battle himself. He didn’t do that so that Trunks could have that. Also, that may be my personal favorite moment in DBZ Abridged, where Gohan basically is wondering what the hell is wrong with him I prefer the moment where Goku is trying to convince Gohan to quit toying with Cell and just kill him, to which Gohan responds by unloading on Goku about his choices in the past, culminating with, “I should give him a goddamned Senzu bean and let YOU fight him!”
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