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Post by romanstylesiii on Jan 14, 2017 1:11:37 GMT -5
Anyone else get tired of these? Rewatching old Nitro's, and this went on for years.
As the Cruiserweights got more popular, it started happening in their matches. And these beatdowns featured people from the NWO B team. Did Scott Norton, Virgil and Bryan Adams really need to beat up cruiserweights every week?
The mid-card never even got revenge, it just goes on and on with no rhyme or reason.
You think after one year of this happening every week they would have figured out something else to do with the dozens of members they had.
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Post by sfvega on Jan 14, 2017 7:50:18 GMT -5
It's truly amazing how many Nitros ended in a clusterschmazz just because that was the only idea they really cared to go with. Because they came up with some decent stuff for DDP and Sting and some other upper card guys, but the main event always ended with shenanigans out of sheer laziness.
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Post by chronocross on Jan 14, 2017 8:07:10 GMT -5
The first 6 months were mostly nWo beatdowns until early 1997 when WCW started fighting back with guys like DDP outsmarting the Outsiders, etc. I think X-Pac mentioned in an shoot that's how Kevin Sullivan booked heels to the point where they were nearly unstoppable before having the tide shift in the faces' favor.
There was one Nitro on the Network 12/9/96 where they showed the nWo getting ran off by the Horsemen/Piper/Kevin Greene and I wish that made the air as the nWo was untouchable at that point on TV.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jan 14, 2017 8:40:25 GMT -5
I think they achieved a pretty good balance by 1997 with Piper, DDP, Giant, Luger, Flair, Sting etc resisting that they carried through until the reformation in 1999. But yeah those early days of the NWO were miserable. They were outstanding at building the NWO as mega uberheels, but it was beyond frustrating to watch. They always were left standing at the end for about 6 straight months. That's why I vehemently disagree when people make the argument that Luger shouldn't have won the title or WCW shouldn't have won some of the PPV main events that they did so that Sting's big triumph would've been that much bigger. That sounds great in theory, but that's nearly 18 months of miserable TV that leaves you feeling sad and frustrated at the end. It might've killed the buzz before you ever got to Sting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 12:44:44 GMT -5
You can see in early 1998, when a main event was just getting interesting, watch the fans. They would turn their heads just EXPECTING somebody to run in.
9 times out of 10, they were onto them.
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Post by romanstylesiii on Jan 14, 2017 15:32:22 GMT -5
You can see in early 1998, when a main event was just getting interesting, watch the fans. They would turn their heads just EXPECTING somebody to run in. 9 times out of 10, they were onto them. I get WWE has perfected how to time live TV, but like 99% of Nitros ended with a SHMAUZ, or during a match because they ran out of time. For every interesting thing WCW did, they have another 5 things that hurt it. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 14, 2017 15:55:09 GMT -5
For a while it added to the 'anything can happen' atmosphere that made Nitro a must see program, but there came a tipping point where it became detrimental to the product, much like Hogan's heel turn. You can't go that long with the heels running roughshod over everyone before the fans start to feel shortchanged and switch to something else.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 15, 2017 7:00:36 GMT -5
I think they achieved a pretty good balance by 1997 with Piper, DDP, Giant, Luger, Flair, Sting etc resisting that they carried through until the reformation in 1999. But you also had shit like the feud with the Horsemen where the nWo makes fun of them, the Horsemen don't stop it, and in the WarGames match, the nWo once again outsmarts WCW and wins. And then there was World War 3, where once again the nWo outsmarted everybody and won. |
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Post by Glitch on Jan 15, 2017 7:29:29 GMT -5
The worst of this (at least for me) was the nwo interrupting a tag match with Meng. This guy that they made to look like an unstoppable machine was easily beaten down by like two nwo members with no effort. It wasn't like a huge chunk of the nwo focusing on him. Just like Buff and Vincent easily punching Meng, and down he went.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jan 15, 2017 9:05:06 GMT -5
For a while it added to the 'anything can happen' atmosphere that made Nitro a must see program, but there came a tipping point where it became detrimental to the product, much like Hogan's heel turn. You can't go that long with the heels running roughshod over everyone before the fans start to feel shortchanged and switch to something else. Kinda like how people got sick of The Authority in WWE almost always coming out on top without any real resistance. Nobody watches wrestling to see the bad guy win all the time. You tune in to see them get their comeuppance eventually. |
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Post by chronocross on Jan 15, 2017 9:10:01 GMT -5
The worst of this (at least for me) was the nwo interrupting a tag match with Meng. This guy that they made to look like an unstoppable machine was easily beaten down by like two nwo members with no effort. It wasn't like a huge chunk of the nwo focusing on him. Just like Buff and Vincent easily punching Meng, and down he went. I could be wrong, but I think it may have been the entire group out there attacking Meng/Barbarian with Bagwell/Vincent adding to the beatdown. I think it may have been the 11/25/96 Nitro. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 15, 2017 10:24:46 GMT -5
For a while it added to the 'anything can happen' atmosphere that made Nitro a must see program, but there came a tipping point where it became detrimental to the product, much like Hogan's heel turn. You can't go that long with the heels running roughshod over everyone before the fans start to feel shortchanged and switch to something else. Kinda like how people got sick of The Authority in WWE almost always coming out on top without any real resistance. Nobody watches wrestling to see the bad guy win all the time. You tune in to see them get their comeuppance eventually. During the Monday Night Wars, the alternative to the neverending NWO had an idealised everyman giving the evil boss his comeuppance so there was a sudden drop as people swapped to the show that wasn't working against the fans. In the modern era, the Authority angle has been wish fulfilment for the McMahons only, with no real wrestling alternative so the decline has been a slow bleed. |
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jan 15, 2017 10:29:20 GMT -5
Plus at one point, the foil to the Authority became an unlikable pretty boy whose goodwill was damaged due to being the focal point a forced push by management.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 15, 2017 10:49:05 GMT -5
Plus at one point, the foil to the Authority became an unlikable pretty boy whose goodwill was damaged due to being the focal point a forced push by management. They tried it three times, Batista, Orton then Reigns... Third time wasn't the charm. |
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