WCW Collision In Korea

[Session Moth is over]

Is there a reason this PPV isn't available on the Network? This show took place in North Korea of all countries in the largest stadium in the world over two nights and had a reported 100,000+ crowd both nights. Would like to see it as it seems so surreal that it even took place.

[Blindkarevik]

I know it was a joint effort between a ton of parties, I know Antonio Inoki was the main guy in charge of the show so while WCW did air the PPV, NJPW may own the rights to it. That's just my guess, though.

[Session Moth is over]

Yeah that would make sense and more than likely is the reason.

Still such a strange place for a show, I wouldn't have thought North Korea would be a wrestling hotbed!

[SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts]

www.si.com/extra-mustard/2015/04/27/muhammad-ali-ric-flair-oral-history-pro-wrestling-north-korea

According to a oral history with Flair, Bischoff and others, it wasn't. They were more confused by what they were watching.

[fg]

Wasn't this special available on Demand on their old On Demand service? In 2004, when WWE launched it, of course they ran ads. During one of them, Tony Schivane says: "Welcome to Collision in Korea."

[lws]

Yes, this was definitely available on WWE 24/7 for a time. By my memory, only the women's match, Steiner match, and main event were particularly worth watching, but the crowd is a sight to see. Quite unsettling though, knowing that the vast majority were there at the threat of execution or whatever the Korean government does to dissenters.

[Nickybojelais]

Don't shoot the messenger (wow I feel like Just Joe), but a rumour I heard was that WWE didn't want to show this on the network because it dwarfed the attendances for their biggest shows like Wrestlamania 3,6,32 and Summerslam '92. They didn't want to show a WCW event bettering anything that they had ever done.

I'm not saying it's true or false, just presenting a theory I have heard regarding its absence on the network.

[Mozenrath]

Jan 16, 2017 13:59:19 GMT -5 Nickybojelais said:

Don't shoot the messenger (wow I feel like Just Joe), but a rumour I heard was that WWE didn't want to show this on the network because it dwarfed the attendances for their biggest shows like Wrestlamania 3,6,32 and Summerslam '92. They didn't want to show a WCW event bettering anything that they had ever done.

I'm not saying it's true or false, just presenting a theory I have heard regarding its absence on the network.

It's possible, but doesn't seem likely to me. I think there could be an orange trash can at Titan Towers, and someone would claim it meant Vince's masculinity was challenged by brown ones.

[Deleted]

I recorded it off 24/7 it was cool to see but the show wasn't anything special.What an odd announce team Eric Bischoff,Sonny Onoo and Mike Tenay.

[Deleted]

Jan 16, 2017 12:31:09 GMT -5 Session Moth is over said:

Yeah that would make sense and more than likely is the reason.

Still such a strange place for a show, I wouldn't have thought North Korea would be a wrestling hotbed!

I would be a wrestling fan with threat of imprisonment or execution.

[thetower52]

I have it on DVD. It was weird as shit

[N E O G E O B O Y S]

Are there shots of the show? I have always been curious about how the stadium looked, or the crowd.

And honestly, I think that the WWE problem with the PPV is that they don't want to show an spectacle were is implied that must of the crowd was under the threat of execution if they don't went there. In this era were anything has the chance of exploding on social media, you can't have a show with those conditions airing there.

The "Vince doesn't want you to know that Wrestlemania wasn't the biggest crowd in history" is a viable option though

[2coldMack is even more baffled]

Didn't Flair and the Steiners do an interview about this trip years later, and talk about how surreal it was?

[Reflecto]

Jan 17, 2017 6:51:40 GMT -5 N E O G E O B O Y S said:

Are there shots of the show? I have always been curious about how the stadium looked, or the crowd.

And honestly, I think that the WWE problem with the PPV is that they don't want to show an spectacle were is implied that must of the crowd was under the threat of execution if they don't went there. In this era were anything has the chance of exploding on social media, you can't have a show with those conditions airing there.

The "Vince doesn't want you to know that Wrestlemania wasn't the biggest crowd in history" is a viable option though

Even then, the "Vince knows Wrestlemania was the biggest crowd where people CHOSE to be there" is a good option (since North Korea's, and the Iraq shows that also outdid them with Andre the Giant fighting, were both mandatory attendance IIRC.)

Either way, the weird thing is what happens with the current expansion to other countries, and the fact WWE Network hasn't put up the Royal Albert Hall shows from the UK in 1989-91 while hyping the UK tournament likely says they won't for this. If they did that, it'd likely say the Collision in Korea will go up when the Asian expansion does.

[Hulkshi Tanahashi]

Jan 17, 2017 6:51:40 GMT -5 N E O G E O B O Y S said:

Are there shots of the show? I have always been curious about how the stadium looked, or the crowd.

And honestly, I think that the WWE problem with the PPV is that they don't want to show an spectacle were is implied that must of the crowd was under the threat of execution if they don't went there. In this era were anything has the chance of exploding on social media, you can't have a show with those conditions airing there.

The "Vince doesn't want you to know that Wrestlemania wasn't the biggest crowd in history" is a viable option though

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Vince was more concerned about the fact that the show had biggest crowd in history over any of their biggest shows rather than the fact that attendance was mandatory under threat of execution.

[Mozenrath]

Jan 17, 2017 19:36:48 GMT -5 2coldMack is even more baffled said:

Didn't Flair and the Steiners do an interview about this trip years later, and talk about how surreal it was?

Probably, though I'd be surprised if Flair was around Scott, unless they made up and I wasn't aware of it.

[chazraps]

Jan 17, 2017 19:36:48 GMT -5 2coldMack is even more baffled said:

Didn't Flair and the Steiners do an interview about this trip years later, and talk about how surreal it was?

I believe their tale of it was in an extensive website's story, but plenty of wrestlers have gone on record since then telling stories of it. Norton's story is by far the scariest.

I will say that the chapter on Collision in Korea is the absolute best part of Eric Bischoff's book and worth picking up just to read about it in detail from his perspective as the guy who put it together. If a movie were to be made on it, this would be the one to do it.

[2coldMack is even more baffled]

Sidebar, but Wikipedia says this is "one of sixteen PPV events" not on The Network. What are the other 15?

[chazraps]

Jan 18, 2017 23:46:01 GMT -5 2coldMack is even more baffled said:

Sidebar, but Wikipedia says this is "one of sixteen PPV events" not on The Network. What are the other 15?

I believe it's someone being liberal with what constitutes a pay-per-view and is including the live audio-only pay-per-listen events WCW's website did, or the pay-per-chatroom coverage WWF AOL did, and then maybe stuff like the UWF, When Worlds Collide and Legends of Wrestling pay-per-views.

EDIT: Found it. What Culture with the list: whatculture.com/wwe/16-ppvs-not-on-the-wwe-network?page=1

SPOILER: Click to show

{Spoiler}
AWA Superclash
When Worlds Collide
WCW Nitro Girls Swimsuit Calendar Special
Three WCW New Japan Supershows
Collision in Korea
WCW Millenium Final (German Only Pay-Per-View)
No Holds Barred: The Match / The Movie
WWF UK Rampage 80
WWF UK Rampage 91
WWF UK Rampage 92
WWF UK Rampage 93
WWF Battle Royal at Albert Hall (UK Only PPV)
WWF Xperience (1996 AOL Chat Room only PPV from Toronto Sky Dome on the 10th anniversary of The Big Event. You've seen fancam footage of this, the famous Goldust-Shawn Michaels golden ladder match)
WWF Mayhem in Manchester (98)
WWF Global Warning (2002 Austrailia only Pay Per View, worth seeking the DVD out. Michael Cole has a notably great performance all night)

[chronocross]

Mayhem in Manchester I believe was a house show that they showed clips from on a Home Video release back in 1998.