Random Mania Observations

[jason1980s]

It may speak more to the lack of good characters or stories at the time, going back to a feud from two years ago but it was pretty cool how the King/Hitman feud started up again in 1995. It never really had a finish in 1993 due to the King trial so I guess it had to end somewhere, some year. It was like the Gorilla/Brain feud, one that really heated up due to the heel's commentary.

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Wrestlemania XII

It's still 93 and time for wrestlemania

Vader vs. Yokozuna should have taken place at Mania instead of this six-man tag

Combined weight of 1211 pounds? Nah....

Yoko's music jobs to Jake's...oh okay, it was an early "mash up" of all 3

Oh right, Mr. Fuji had a brief face turn

Jake was kinda like the Mikey Whipwreck of the WWF at this time

Ahmed Johnson proves that it's not better to burn out than fade away

The whole point of this match is that if the faces win then Yokozuna gets five minutes alone with Cornette. So of course they lose.

This just made me realize how many Wrestlemanias Piper was actually at after retiring in 1987

Shame that this was just a replacement for Goldust/Razor in the same match

I never understood the point of Piper spraying the car with the hose

I'm embarrassed to admit that I didn't realize who Goldust really was for a long time

Honestly surprised Goldust went into a fight with a maniac holding a weapon and didn't have some kind of weapon himself

Does anyone know when or where the backlot thing was taped? I wonder if Dustin suggested doing it on the back of a flatbed truck instead of this

The dumpster caused more damage than the car did

Was that supposed to be Piper's car or did he steal someone's?

as soon as they dropped The Ringmaster gimmick they probably should have dropped the Million $ title

I wonder how much it cost Roddy Piper to call the arena on a cell phone at this point

You know your match is important when they keep cutting to fake car footage

What a complete shitfest the end of this match is

Tim White gets a soda thrown in his face by DiBiase

I thought Diesel seeing himself in the casket was one of the coolest things as a kid

Hunter's music gets a big pop only because Warrior was coming back

Vince going gaga over Sable made it obvious that there was more to this one than the other girls

Warrior used "Hulk Up" It's very effective

Marc Morrow is here!

"I'm the shit, I'm tellin ya!"

This is a decent big man match

The Tombstone on Diesel is the most impressive one so far

Paul Bearer turning on Taker so soon after this is still bizarre to me

Not sure how Piper was able to catch up to Goldust without getting pulled over

"Roddy Piper's back there!" No that's Pat Patterson and Diesel

Piper trying to tape his fist but it just looks awkward with the roll of tape bouncing everywhere

I think the whole match should have taken place in the arena with no referee much like the famous "Alley Fight." They're all beat up by the time they get to the ring but there was such a huge gap that it lost some of its effect

Just realized that this is essentially an updated version of the Piper/Adonis feud. With 150% more dick grabbing.

"Cover him!" "What do you mean by that?" Good line from Vince

This is gonna be controversial but I personally think the Ironman Match is one of the most boring Wrestlemania matches ever. It's 40 minutes of rest holds.

Fink: Taking the place of Shawn Michaels is Jose Lothario!

When Jose stands on the rope there's some guy in the crowd who looks like Crow Sting and this was like 7-8 months before Crow Sting debuted

I wonder why they couldn't have Shawn zipline into the actual ring

Whenever someone's music restarts I always wonder why they don't have an extra long edit where the chorus just repeats for like 40 minutes just in case

Bret should have come out riding a giant pink and black submarine

"This is an Arn Man match!"

Referee: This would probably be a good time for me to mention what will happen in the case of a tie but I'm not going to bother because what are the odds of that happening?

Referee: Any questions?

Bret: Yeah, what happens in the case of a tie? Do I retain or is there a sudden death?

Not even 4 minutes in and it feels like 8

Shawn just killed the timekeeper

"IT'S NOT A STARING CONTEST!"

This definitely need a few falls during the match.

It took Jose Lothario getting hit to wake the crowd up

Lawler shouting "Bret Hart wins!" at the end of the 60 minutes is weird. You'd think he would have been pulling for Shawn

I almost feel like the ending needed to be sudden, with a small package or something. Two superkicks was a bit much

I almost wonder if Shawn was telling Earl to tell Jose to get out of the ring and Bret assumed he meant him

Bret gets a Canadian flag thrown at him and he tosses it like garbage

Shawn Michaels' dream of filming a movie for 11 years had come true

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At least Ahmed didn't botch anything.

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Wrestlemania XIII

I had really assumed Bret/Austin for the title was going to be the main event here

Can Vince just buy "Don't Go Messin' With A Country Boy" already? I mean it's not like it's "Thriller" or something

Barry Windham looks like he's wearing a fake mustache

I almost said that I didn't think anyone in this match deserved to be in the Hall of Fame, forgetting that Windham is already in and Bradshaw is definitely deserving

Let's get two of these teams out simultaneously to save some time

Did White Zombie ever play with Tony Bennett?

Another parade of Old Timers while Honky Tonk Man poses for the crowd

According to Sabu they wanted him for the Sultan gimmick and he turned it down.

I wonder what kind of Hershey's Kiss they used for Sultan's hat

Rocky's music was awful

Tony Atlas looks the same 20 years later

I loved the floatover DDT

The Sultan did the job for the Rock, he did it for the people

It's funny how they mention Rocky Johnson but then don't immediately recognize him when he gets in the ring

Surprised we didn't get Rocky/Rocky vs. Sheik/Sultan

Ken Shamrock looks like a legit psychopath at times

Hunter in a weird era between blueblood and degenerate

I think Marlena was my favorite female at the time

Tons of horse and ugly jokes directed at Chyna

Marlena looks like her neck should be broken from getting shaken around

Shawn Michaels looks like a chimp at a typewriter

I wanted Mankind and Vader to win the titles here so Owen and Bulldog could finally feud

Why does a team need a leader? Can't they just coexist?

No contest here kinda killed everything

At least the audio is fixed for this match. That version on one of the DVDs where everything is about a second off is way too annoying to watch

Bret gets to walk through a shit ton of broken glass to get to the ring

Bret Hart IS a whiner

"It's not about posing and covering a bald spot." Terrible.

Bret's daughter hiding her face should be used during TNA threads

I think as soon as Austin got busted open they should have went for the finish. It keeps going a bit too long for me.

Austin breaking the sharpshooter but not breaking it is kind of an awkward spot

Austin lays there dead and no one bothers to check on him

Colt Cabana joins the Nation in shocking fashion

This is almost like the WWF doing an ECW match sketch

At one point it sounds like someone gets shot

I don't understand why Crush didn't wear Nation colors

D'Lo literally hanging Ahmed now

Shawn shows up for the main event, sounds like a scam about to happen...

Taker wearing his throwback jersey

"Sid Fears Taz" is probably what would have eventually happened had Sid stuck around in ECW

Bret the Whiner is here. Vince hugging Shawn so he doesn't get into the ring with him

This actually would have been an interesting time for Warrior and Papa Shango to do run-ins for shits and giggles

"I'M ON VACATION" Shawn Michaels auditioning for the role of Axel Foley

"GODDAMNIT!"

Batshit Bret is back to hit Sycho Sid with a chair

Slowest 3 count ever at the end

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Feb 26, 2017 21:26:44 GMT -5 lildude8218 said:

Wrestlemania XIII

I had really assumed Bret/Austin for the title was going to be the main event here

Can Vince just buy "Don't Go Messin' With A Country Boy" already? I mean it's not like it's "Thriller" or something

Barry Windham looks like he's wearing a fake mustache

I almost said that I didn't think anyone in this match deserved to be in the Hall of Fame, forgetting that Windham is already in and Bradshaw is definitely deserving

Let's get two of these teams out simultaneously to save some time

Did White Zombie ever play with Tony Bennett?

Another parade of Old Timers while Honky Tonk Man poses for the crowd

According to Sabu they wanted him for the Sultan gimmick and he turned it down.

I wonder what kind of Hershey's Kiss they used for Sultan's hat

Rocky's music was awful

Tony Atlas looks the same 20 years later

I loved the floatover DDT

The Sultan did the job for the Rock, he did it for the people

It's funny how they mention Rocky Johnson but then don't immediately recognize him when he gets in the ring

Surprised we didn't get Rocky/Rocky vs. Sheik/Sultan

Ken Shamrock looks like a legit psychopath at times

Hunter in a weird era between blueblood and degenerate

I think Marlena was my favorite female at the time

Tons of horse and ugly jokes directed at Chyna

Marlena looks like her neck should be broken from getting shaken around

Shawn Michaels looks like a chimp at a typewriter

I wanted Mankind and Vader to win the titles here so Owen and Bulldog could finally feud

Why does a team need a leader? Can't they just coexist?

No contest here kinda killed everything

At least the audio is fixed for this match. That version on one of the DVDs where everything is about a second off is way too annoying to watch

Bret gets to walk through a shit ton of broken glass to get to the ring

Bret Hart IS a whiner

"It's not about posing and covering a bald spot." Terrible.

Bret's daughter hiding her face should be used during TNA threads

I think as soon as Austin got busted open they should have went for the finish. It keeps going a bit too long for me.

Austin breaking the sharpshooter but not breaking it is kind of an awkward spot

Austin lays there dead and no one bothers to check on him

Colt Cabana joins the Nation in shocking fashion

This is almost like the WWF doing an ECW match sketch

At one point it sounds like someone gets shot

I don't understand why Crush didn't wear Nation colors

D'Lo literally hanging Ahmed now

Shawn shows up for the main event, sounds like a scam about to happen...

Taker wearing his throwback jersey

"Sid Fears Taz" is probably what would have eventually happened had Sid stuck around in ECW

Bret the Whiner is here. Vince hugging Shawn so he doesn't get into the ring with him

This actually would have been an interesting time for Warrior and Papa Shango to do run-ins for shits and giggles

"I'M ON VACATION" Shawn Michaels auditioning for the role of Axel Foley

"GODDAMNIT!"

Batshit Bret is back to hit Sycho Sid with a chair

Slowest 3 count ever at the end

I watched this PPV a few years back. During Rocky vs. Sultan I thought, why the f*** did they give them like 45 minutes for this match? It's freaking awful. Looked up the match time on Wikipedia, under 10 minutes.

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[James Fabiano]

Feb 23, 2017 17:21:37 GMT -5 lildude8218 said:

Happy Jack the Clown should have formed a stable with Doink

If you mean this one, he'd be better off with the Matt Borne Doink, if you know what I mean:

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Some of my thinking for WM13 as I was there.

-We're here and...ugh, we're being sandwiched in. No walking out if this sucks.
-Checked the merch stands. All the Austin 3:16 shirts in XL are sold out. Eh, if they don't have any inside, I'll make do with a Mankind one.
-Bro, what time is it? We been here an hour.
-Yay, they opened the doors! Oh hell, they're checking signs. I get through without a check. Odd.
-Merch stand right inside. YES! LAST AUSTIN SHIRT IN MY SIZE! $20. (I'm suspect now. We were one of the first in the door.)
-4th row behind the hockey boards. Nice.
-Hey look, the blimp! Nice touch.
-Todd Pettingill, get on with the show!
-We're gonna kick things off with...Billy Gunn. Oh boy. Wonder if he's facing Marc Mero; he wasn't listed for the main show.
-"FLASH, YOU ARE SOOOOOOOO FUNKY!" Shit, I forgot Flash wasn't listed either.
-Decent match. Crowd still filing in, hence the lack of heat. Lot of people getting drinks and stuff.
-Todd Petting-zoo [Sunny], go away!
-We kick off with a Four-Way tag. Winner gets a title shot at the next PPV.
-This keeps with Vince's dumb logic the Godwinns have to stink up the first 10 minutes of EVERY show, not just Raw.
-The New Blackjacks. Bradshaw is a step below Yosemite Sam on the subtle scale.
-Oops, Barry shouldn't have done that.
-What the hell, Furnas got counted out?
-"LET'S TAKE THE TWO BEST TEAMS AND ELIMINATE THEM FIRST!"
-Merciful God, please don't let the Godwinns win this match.
-Headbangers get the duke. "And the crowd goes wild!" [Tom Servo] "yay." [Joel and Crow]
-Huh, Brian Pillman's there in the back plugging the 900 line...WITH SUNNY! WHY ARE THEY IN THE BACK?!
-Oh boy, it's the Sultan, led by the Sheik and Backlund.
-"Remember that WCW show where the Sheik spit on us?" "Yeah, that was funny. Dad was jealous."
-Crowd going mild for Rocky. Boy this show is stuck in first gear. Hope it gets better.
-Sheesh, this is one dull match. Wish we could hear commentary. That would make it somewhat tolerable.
-Rocky wins. Crowd isn't exactly wild about it.
-Post-match attack. Rocky Johnson makes the save. I don't think anybody cared.
-I like Helmsley's entrance. I'm half-expecting him to carry the Olympic torch.
-Dang, that girl is huge.
-Pretty decent match. What the hell, Marlena? Get back on the floor...oh SHIT! That Amazon just shredded Marlena! Hope she's okay. That was brutal!
-Goldust cries over Marlena as Hunter's music plays. "The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat." [Jim McKay]
-Why is Jim Ross at the tunnel? Oh, it's Owen and Bulldog he's talking to. Jim, stop starting shit!
-"OWEN WE WANNA TOUCH YOUR SLAMMY!" Hilarious!
-Me: "Why does Owen have 2 Slammys?" Bro: "He won it last night." Me: "I forgot that was on, I was watching something else and fell asleep."
-"I watch every week, I still don't understand why Vader and Mankind teamed up. I doubt they're getting the belts."
-I like Mankind, but Bulldog's my guy. So I hope Bulldog wins.
-Another double-countout? What the hell? This match seemed like it was going good. Crap.
-My brother needs a Sprite. So we get up to stand in line.
-I grab my sign dedicated to a friend and run down to ringside. Street fight coming up.
-"And NOW INTRODUCING from the Ultimate Fight World!" Shit, got the wrong sign. Run back up, get my better sign, get lost in that sea of others which includes the guy with the heart-shaped "Follow Your Hart" sign.
-Back in my seat, hey cool. Austin's got his logo on the tunnel. (Breaks) WOW, THAT'S BADASS!
-Bret doesn't look happy. Either he's ready to throw down or he's pissed he isn't in the title match.
-This is gonna be the shit. Crowd has really bought into this feud. I like both guys, but I'm with Austin here. I sympathize with him.
-Pretty sad Lou Albano and Tony Atlas had to pay to get in.
-Oh of COURSE, you fight up the COMPLETE OPPOSITE CORNER FROM US!
-Shamrock looks like he's about to drop a couple guys getting in the way.
-Yay, they're back in the ring. Now we can all see.
-Bro: "Is Austin bleeding?" Me: "Whoa!"
-"REMEMBER THAT OLD SAYING! WHAT THE HELL, USE THE BELL!" [Bobby Heenan]
-Me: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO STEVE! DON'T QUIT! DON'T QUIT! DAMMIT!"
-"Bret you asshole! Leave that guy alone! THANK YOU KEN!"
-I'm chanting for Austin to get up. Crowd is...chanting along? Wow, that's pretty cool!
-Referee knows better that to help Steve. Dumbass.
-Street fight. This is going to be fun. Crowd hates Faarooq and the Nation. At least I THINK that's why.
-Hahaha, PG-13. (My brother doesn't know what to think, he doesn't watch the USWA at 5am on Saturday morning like I do. I tried to take my last break at 5 so I can watch it in the break room.)
-I want somebody to punch Jamie Dundee in the mouth.
-Ahmed looks like a badass in those LOD spikes. Crowd going batshit over these three.
-Pretty fun match so far. Lot of action going on everywhere. Our corner is where the French announce table was.
-"RUN RAYMOND (Rougeau) RUN! GET OUTTA THERE!"
-"Who sprayed that stupid fire extinguisher? I can't see shit now!"
-"Okay we can see again...DAMMIT HAWK! STOP THAT SHIT!" [My dad]
-They're using a noose. This isn't politically correct.
-Oh damn, Faarooq just did a header to the floor! Hope he's okay!
-LOD win in Chicago? Color me stunned.
-Main event time. There is a dude selling Undertaker foam Tombstones up the aisles. My brother buys one for our disabled friend at home, who is a Taker fan. (He LOVES Sting. We kid with him about that when we watch the WCW PPVs with him.)
-Hey, Shawn found his smile again! Why is he here? (I'm on TV at this point as the cameras pan around to all the signs, I didn't know until I saw the tape. I'm the guy with "Chicago Is Stone Cold Country". My brother is next to me looking..."thrilled to be there".)
-Sid's entrance is pretty neat.
-When Bobby jokes about Taker's entrance, "Did it just get colder in here?", he's not joking. It does get cold in there. (I think they crank the AC up.) Nice little touch.
-Oh shit, here comes Bret. GET OUT OF HERE! "Shawn Michaels, Boy Toy, take your pussyfoot injury and go find your smile. Stay the hell out of this match!" Okay, that was funny.
-This match is sure taking a long time. I'm checking my watch...only to realize I left it on the bathroom counter at home. (Eh.)
-BRET, GO THE HELL AWAY!
-Undertaker wins the title! And it gets cold again! (A live title change. Never saw one before.)
Show was pretty good. Now we get to sit in our cars for an hour waiting for all the $250 seat holders to get their chairs. Get home about 11pm, what's my dad watching on TV? The 1997 Slammy awards on USA.

[Mid-Carder]

Bret and Shawn are two of my all time favourites but I'm not a fan of the Iron Man. It was booked completely wrong. And if it ends 0-0, Bret retains his title. There was no need for it to go into overtime. No wonder Bret became so angry! That was the REAL Screwjob!

[msc]

Feb 21, 2017 15:41:03 GMT -5 @knapp said:

Feb 18, 2017 20:06:16 GMT -5 lildude8218 said:

Wrestlemania 7

Heenan was always obsessed with Taker's gloves

And death puns. "UH OH DEATH TAKES A HOLIDAY!!!" ...what?

His startled call as the match ended has always stuck with me - "I don't believe it... that was Superfly Jimmy Snuka!" I mean, Snuka was a glorified jobber at that point but you still believed he meant something with Bobby's exclamation...

I love that call. It's a complete squash match with an over the hill guy, and yet, Brain makes it seem a major passing of the torch type Major Mania Moment. It's the stunned incredulity which makes it.

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Feb 23, 2017 17:21:37 GMT -5 lildude8218 said:

Wrestlemania X

It's '93 it's time for Wrestlemania! wait....

Still not as bad as namedropping Survivor Series in the Summerslam Jam, though...

Lawler botches his first joke at WrestleMania

A sign of woeful things to come...

Gratuitous parade of old timers. Mae Young's first WWF appearance, to the best of my knowledge.

At least it lasted, like, 4 seconds.

I met Captain Lou 10 years later, the day before WM20. He was telling someone with him that Vince invited him to the event, but he said "....nah...." Considering it was living locally, IIRC, that snub always stuck with me...

If Earthquake vs. Adam Bomb was going to be this quick they shouldn't have even bothered with the match.

I had such high hopes for it (Adam Bomb was a fave when I was a youngster, he's a disappointing thing to be nostalgic about though) too...

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Wrestlemania XIV

The cover makes it look like Austin and Tyson are taking on Shawn and Taker or a combination of singles matches

HBK in tight shorts = buyrates

Still 93, still time for Wrestlemania

Scratch logo in the intro, old logo on the sign on the walkway

I'm actually a big battle royal mark but there were way too many thrown together teams in this one.

LOD had only been gone for a few weeks, not sure why it was such a huge deal. Other than Sunny being with them for no reason.

Sniper or Recon, not sure which, looks like Barry Darsow in this.

What a cluster already. Kurrgan does something and then Barry Windham does something else. Neither are in the match.

I had forgotten that the Rock n Roll Express ever wrestled at Wrestlemania

Mark Henry still in the ring even though his partner was gone long ago

Remember when Well Dunn got that mini push in 1998? Oh wait, that's the New Midnight Express

Animal in shorts just looks wrong

Oh yeah, South Park signs were a thing

"Jeff Whitehead is Aguila" Alright then

and a Taco Bell joke

With that shirt The Rock could stare in a remake of Coming to America

Gennifer Flowers jokingly asking The Rock what he would do as President, meanwhile Dwayne Johnson running for office now doesn't really seem that bizarre. Not being political, just actors go into politics all the time.

They cut the DX Band version of the Star Spangled Banner but we get the terrible live version of the DX song still.

Triple H still in a bluebloodish robe.

Red M&M sighting

Owen and Triple H were probably my two favorite wrestlers of this era but I wish they hadn't both turned so soon after this

Managers handcuffed to each other at ringside is so "southern wrestling."

"Need Tickets?" is a funny sign

I feel like Owen needed the win here. Triple H didn't need the European Title. Owen did.

oh that's right, a low blow was called the Golota for a while

This mixed tag was weird. It was 3 heels and a babyface.

I think I was one of the only Artist Formerly Known As Goldust marks

Only the 3rd mixed tag and Luna had been involved in two of them. And a Rhodes had been involved in 2 of them.

Mero debuted two years prior but somehow was only making his Mania debut on this night

Yet another low blow

Lots of high flying type moves for two bigger guys

If Sable didn't see Luna coming off the top for that splash then she would have needed glasses

Luna kicks out of the powerbomb, that seems like a mistake

Jeff Jarrett comes back as NWA North American champion and then reverts back to Double J for no reason and then becomes serious Jarrett before the end of the year

Gennifer's cheat cards are gigantic

Shamrock completely dominates Rock and wins the title then can't control himself for no apparent reason and gets the decision reversed. Dumbass.

I thought this was a "Don't try this at home" spot but it's just "We're bad asses, you can't touch us."

Terry Funk doesn't even bother wearing his Chainsaw Charlie mask

Road Dogg doing a mic check with a live microphone during their opponents' entrance

I'll admit, I fell for the dumpster angle. The fact that everyone was out there and Sunny was crying made me think they were really hurt.

"Calling Cactus Jack stupid is an insult to stupid people."

Ladders are apparently legal in a Dumpster Match

Outlaws forget the rules of the match and instead of getting Cactus into the dumpster they take him backstage for some reason

Thank God there just happened to be another dumpster in the back

The whole "wrong dumpster" thing was a lame way to get the belts back on the Outlaws the next night

"KANE TOLD ME!"

"I will never fight Kane" Once in a lifetime!

Let's light shit on fire for the next four minutes!

Pete Rose makes his first Wrestlemania appearance

"HOW BOUT IT?!?!?"

I never realized the whole "Big Red Machine" connection until years later

sounded like JR said "two 7'3" hundred pounders"

I wonder if anyone thought that Kane would be around for 20 years and a definite future Hall of Famer

Paul Bearer distracts the referee so Kane can use the ring steps. Now people just use them whenever they want.

Taker's dive into the announce table is scary

Kane fails to cross Taker's arms on the Tombstone pin. That's why he kicked out.

Paul Bearer seems to be melting

The ending of this match takes way too long. We get it, Kane's a monster. It should have just been three Tombstones without the stuff in-between

Kane kicks out just after 3 and then gets his heat back after the match to continue the feud

Pat Patterson is the only one left alive in this Old Timers video

Ernie Ladd dressed as Uncle Elmer for some reason

Shawn Michaels has to survive a Taped Fist match before heading out here

Austin/Tyson would have been a hell of a buyrate

Tony Garea was a proto-Stooge

The shots of Austin walking backstage make it seem like he's gonna get jumped pre-match

Shout out to Baby Earl.

DX Band again....ugh

Shawn's braids look ridiculous

Was there any doubt that Austin wasn't winning here? Even if Shawn wasn't injured it would have been completely irresponsible

This is the era of "This match is now No DQ for some reason"

HBK gives Mike Chioda a stinkface late in the match

Tyson doesn't even hesitate counting the 3

Shawn completely torn up at Tyson turning on him

Middle fingers up to end the show. This is like a nu metal show.

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Wrestlemania XV


I guess they figured Freddie was going to die soon and filmed like 6 hours of him talking for use on future things because the footage of him is from the previous years video. He stuck around for another 4 years.

Some weird remix of the DX theme as the opening song

I hated how Billy Gunn and Road Dogg were swapped for no apparent reason just before Wrestlemania. Road Dogg fit in with the Hardcore scene better and Billy Gunn fit in with the Intercontinental scene better

Hardcore Holly gets the title and balance is restored

I hated Ivory, so annoying

Debra's outfit was fantastic

I liked the random tag team gimmick but thought they should have won the titles otherwise it seemed pointless

did Test and D'Lo arguing ever lead to anything?

PMS is the cause of everyone's problems

I wonder how much Butterbean got paid for this appearance

Rodney and Pete Gas spawn an extra 4 posse members by the end of the night

Vinny Pazienza with his 2nd straight Mania appearance, even though he was in the crowd last year.

When Fink said "he boxed Ali and wrestled Andre" I thought he flubbed his lines and was talking about Monsoon since Monsoon had a boxing match with Andre and sorta wrestled Ali

It's sad seeing Monsoon look so frail

They just use the Brawl for All theme for both men instead of making it interesting and giving them both music

And I just realized that THIS match was Monsoon's last appearance. Too bad it couldn't have been something better.

And now the San Diego Chicken in Philly for no reason. Guess the Phanatic was busy that day

What music was Big Show using that they had to have Fink do a new dub of his intro?

First time I ever heard Mick's car crash music I thought Razor Ramon had returned

I figure they didn't want Show in the singlet because of the Andre comparisons but he just doesn't look right in trunks here

Big Show with the quickest face turn ever?

I still boggles my mind that Val Venis was ever a face. He always seemed like a sleazy jerk who talked about how big his package was and how every woman wanted to be with him. How could people cheer that?

Should've been a "Ryan Shamrock on a Pole" match

"RING THE BELL!" But he already rang it!

Never was a fan of multi-man matches where you had to tag in. It makes sense for tag matches but in singles it just wastes time

"Clean his clock" is a phrase you can easily screw up when Goldust and Val Venis are involved

This should be referred to as the Era of the Pumphandle Slam

Shamrock and Venis both counted out. Very anticlimactic

Road Dogg somehow reverses a power slam into a pin

"You need a haircut too, Bob....Bob Newhart!"

That chicken's gone rogue!

I remember being mad that Triple H wasn't in DX colors. Although I guess it was a subliminal hint at his turn later in the show

Awkward dive by Kane

Chyna is here with literally no burns anywhere on her face

Kane was being forced to be part of the Corporation. Chyna turned heel to join the Corporation but aligned with Kane so she was still kind of a face. Then she turned on Kane to go back with Triple H but then it's revealed that Triple H had joined the Corporation. So Chyna never turned but in doing so sorta did. Also hitting Kane caused him to win the match anyway so attacking Triple H and then turning would have been the better option.

Something about Sable's gear and her grinding made me completely turned off to her when I was younger

Tori looked like a lunatic in that outfit

Test looks like he just learned how to walk that day

This was definitely Shane McMahon's "coming out party" so to speak

"Triple H and Chyna just screwed X-Pac" I knew about Chyna but....

Kane comes out in a green suit. Click here for pictures!

I enjoyed Ministry Taker but the whole "Vince was in on it all along" took away a lot of the interest. A heel vs. heel feud going on simultaneously while that same heel was feuding with a face was interesting and that all got thrown away.

Outside of the whole hanging thing this really didn't need to be a Hell in a Cell match.

"What the? King...what the?"

The Brood always felt shoehorned into the Ministry

Bossman was a trooper for letting them do that stunt. I wouldn't want to hang from my neck.

Was the Rage Party televised? I can't remember but I think it would have had to have been if they shot skits of Patterson and Brisco trying to sneak in.

Val Venis introduces Cherry Poppin' Daddies....get it? GET IT?!?!?

Surprise Jim Ross sighting. I think he came back a bit too early though. His Bell's Palsy was still pretty bad

HBK's commissioner role is really hazy to me. I remember him being face and heel randomly throughout for no reason

I guess it's a good thing the Hardcore Title match wasn't too crazy since the main event goes all over the arena basically

"Austin going to work on Austin!"

"The rattlesnake will never quit" irony....

Of course Mankind comes back, at least Big Show didn't somehow come back in a stolen police car

Austin wins, duh

Everyone gets drunk to end the show

"Austin has become the World Wrestling Federation!"

[cjh]

Finkel's voice being dubbed in for Big Show's entrance is because Finkel said "WWF" in the original intro.  It was an edit done for the 2005 WM Anthology DVD set, and they apparently didn't remove that now-unnecessary change on the Network.

And yes, the Rage Party aired on USA two nights before WM.

[jason1980s]

Does anyone remember the sweater wearing security guy from the first WrestleMania. Seemed like a real jerk, swatting fans hands away from the wrestlers coming through the aisle. Maybe he was just overzealous. Someone in WWF remembered him, I was surprised, they pictured him with a description in one of the recent WWF WrestleMania retrospective magazines. I'm guessing he was a Madison Square Garden employee they used as an escort because I don't recall him outside that event. I wonder who he is and how important he felt that day. He's probably long dead by now, had to be in his late 50s or early 60s even then.

[lildude8218]

Wrestlemania 2000

I still remember the Wrestlemania All Day Long special that aired before this Wrestlemania. I taped the whole thing but looking back it was probably something they should have saved for Wrestlemania 20

Lilian makes her Wrestlemania debut. Who knew how many times she would mess up over the next 15 years?

The McMahon Powers....EXPLODE!

The Big Show? You mean Steven Richards, right?

Imagine if Ice-T sang "America the Beautiful"

Now I'm imaginging JYD's song as GRAB THEM BITCHES! Is that how you do?

This could have been pitched as a Father/Son match

Godfather's hair looks awful

An XFL mention that made it sound like the league was already done

The engineer of the Ho Train? is that like the Architect of the Shield?

Shocked that the heels win. Thought they would have the faces go over so Ice-T could perform again.

Stephanie's top is the early 2000s in a nutshell

I honestly thought Tazz was leaving here with the Hardcore Title

It's kind of nice that Mabel was able to completely reinvent himself with the Viscera look

I think The Headbangers were better with the band shirts instead of this nonsense.

Shouldn't everyone be going after Crash instead of fighting random people? The point was to win the title. Furthermore shouldn't Tazz play some defense instead of heading right into the fray after winning?

Faarooq holding a lead pipe and not doing anything with it is really scary for some reason

I'm honestly surprised that one of the referees or a cameraman or something didn't win the hardcore title during this match

Viscera's had this a little too long now

Kaientai gets the pin and Fink just decides Funaki is champion

I'm thinking 10 minutes would have been sufficient for this match

Tazz going for a pin even though he's the champion

Tazz kicks out but Crash somehow gets a 3 count anyway

Hardcore takes too long to use the candy dish then pins but doesn't pin Crash. Fink reluctantly announces Hardcore as the winner. They fix this the next night by having Crash win it back. Such a disaster.

I thought Val Venis was Dolph Ziggler for a second

So many new faces in the span of a year

Baby Coachman

How did Terri never have a boob completely pop out of one of those tiny shirts?

Let's watch the botched ending YET again

Fart joke to closeup of tits in half a second

I still don't know why Snow wanted to call the team Head Cheese. I understand the Head part but why Cheese for Blackman?

Everyone's music is so boring

Love that faulty audio equipment there

The Artist Formerly Known As Prince Albert

Snow and Blackman lose the match and blame the Cheese for some reason. This should have been a full-fledged heel turn

I wonder if Kat was actually nude or had coverings during this skit with Mae Young. Also she's hiding that she went back to blonde but you can clearly see her hair sticking out of the towel

Hardys go under several ladders. Guess that explains all the bad luck they've had over the years.

The Proto-TLC Match begins

JR still can't tell Edge and Christian apart

Jeff and Christian get to take the unsafe bump off the top of the ladder over the top and to the floor

Let's go for tables instead of trying to grab the belts!

All the time it takes to set up some of these spots takes some of the realism away

How Jeff didn't literally break his ass on the Swanton off the huge ladder is beyond me

Edgin' Christian! Edgin' Christian!

Lawler's crown is "bowling shoe ugly"

Was definitely smart placing the Kat Fight right after the Ladder Match

The referee towel looks like it just has black stripes taped on it

Bret gives Moolah's outfit a 4 out of 10

This is the only one on one match we've had tonight. Surprised it wasn't a tag with the old broads involved.

Oh, right. It was some sort of battle royal rules.

Val misses Kat winning twice. Mae holds him off and Terri wins, not sure why Kat didn't have time to get back in before that

Even though Terri's outfit was see through, Moolah tries to cover up Terri's ass after her bottoms are ripped off

The way this backstage thing is shot makes it look like they cropped Benoit out of the Radicalz

More generic garbage music

Chyna was at her peak attractiveness here

You know, even though Chyna had that program with Eddie, I think it would have been more logical for Too Cool and Rikishi to take on The Radicalz and have Kane and Chyna take on DX

Random Bob Backlund appearance

Angle was so good so early into his career

Arguably the 3 best workers in the company at the time in the same match

Benoit actually gets the pin with the diving headbutt for once

Benoit REALLY upset about not getting 2 belts. I would've just been like "meh, whatever"

It's very smart booking having Angle lose both belts without being pinned either time. It keeps him strong for what was to come

Babyface Vince

Oh right, the crappy Run DMC version of the DX Theme

Tori doesn't look like a psychopath this time

Fisherman Dogg

Evil Paul Bearer as a babyface is weird

Like I said earlier this just seems like a complicated way to get Rikishi a dance spot and get the Pete Rose spot in

Why assume Pete was the chicken again? Wouldn't that be too obvious?

At least the Chicken being in Anaheim made more sense than Philly

Paul Bearer doing the crotch chop is frightening

Pete corpsing during the Stink Face. Send for the man!

"After every run-in and every backstab" Well there's gonna be a few more, Rocky

Dustin Diamond almost gets no-sold

Sounded like JR called Foley a "sentimental hick"

Keep saying it's Foley's last night so we know he has 0 chance of winning here

Shane McMahon looks like an adult who got a spell put on him and he deaged into a child while wearing a suit. The thing looks huge on him

This is my favorite Triple H theme but I prefer it without the lyrics

Big Show going out first was a huge shock

Foley gets stupid and goes for the Mandible Claw on the Rock instead of focusing on getting Triple H out of the match

Match has a little too much downtime. Need to see an elimination soon.

Pedigree on a chair for the pin seems a bit tame for what Foley had taken in the past

I figured it was a foregone conclusion that Rock was walking out with the title. Guess I was wrong

Oh hey, it's Pink Shirt Dude and Green Shirt Wife

Piledriver on the steps, yikes

Vince attacks Triple H, which makes the ending make even less sense.

Shane comes back to attack his father

This whole thing is extremely overbooked now

Vince McMahon comes back and hits the Rock for some reason

For some reason Vince went through all the trouble of getting Rock in this match just to have Triple H keep the title. Wouldn't it have made more sense to keep Rock out of the match?

Earl Hebner sneaking into the ring after Stephanie gets the Rock Bottom for no apparent reason

Stephanie basically no sells the People's Elbow

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Hey, I liked that Run-DMC tune. What I didn't like was 3/4ths of the other songs off that album.

[chronocross]

Triple-H in early 99 was wearing non-DX colors on Raw prior to Mania, he wore red and blue on a few occasions.

As for WM2000, I thought for sure it was going to be Rock or Foley winning and when they did the three count, I thought for sure Linda was coming out to restart the match.

[Citizen Snips]

Feb 26, 2017 17:40:35 GMT -5 lildude8218 said:

Vader vs. Yokozuna should have taken place at Mania instead of this six-man tag

I just recently read that was the original plan, but McMahon rushed Vader back from shoulder surgery and switching it to the six-man took a lot of the pressure off him.

[lildude8218]

Wrestlemania X-7

Welcome to people somehow watching Wrestlemania in tiny TVs and in shacks.

Let's go down to the TV store and watch Wrestlemania for free on the sidewalk

Snickers and Limp Bizkit present Wrestlemania

I used to jokingly sing "My way or the Hizzay!" to make it sound even dumber

This feels like the first real "big" Wrestlemania since Wrestlemania 3. The others look like regular PPVs or episodes of Raw by comparison

Paul Heyman looked like he was constipated in the opening

Kinda weird jumping to a video package in the middle of someone's entrance

Shoulda never made him Doink

Jericho wins in a very underwhelming match for a Mania opener

Jacqueline was like the young version of Mae Young

Bradshaw cutting a JBL-like promo

I never really understood why The Goodfather didn't stay a reluctant member of the Right to Censor. He just kinda went "oh well, I'm a dick now"

They tried soooo many times with Bull Buchanan

Catatonic Linda McMahon reminds me of the Christmas episode of ALF when they thought he was a stuffed toy

Hobo Raven with his shopping cart

The Hardcore Title scene definitely changed in the span of a year

Why the hell did the referee call for the bell if all the competitors weren't in the ring yet?

I hope those walls were all temporary and the company didn't have to pay for damages

This is like a live-action version of Rampage

Kane almost kills Raven for real

They just destroyed all of those bottles of Snapple and now no one has anything to drink!

Just once there needs to be a gorilla in Gorilla

Kane with an elbowdrop that JR calls a leg drop

Saturn's hat is the dumbest thing ever

Is this the most recent Wrestlemania match featuring two guys who have died?

Dumb little thing I noticed. Eddie and Saturn were both in ECW and then Test was later in the revamped version

Saturn looks like mini Albert from the back

Man, Test could have just laid down and saved us some time.

Can you imagine a man broadcasting Wrestlemania wearing a hat?

Benoit looks like his nose is bleeding as he walks down the aisle

"Don't tell me why I'm a fan of the Briscos!"

I remembered this being a really exciting match but I'm just not feeling it right now

Just once I would like a guy to tap purposely just because the referee is down and mock his opponent over it

Cole: Commissioner Regal, who's gonna pay for all the damage Big Show, Kane and Raven caused?

I just said "What the f*** is Kamala doing here?" completely forgetting about the Gimmick Battle Royal

I like how they used the Million Dollar Corporation picture of Nikolai Volkoff in the graphic for some reason

Biker Taker with long hair didn't really work for me. The short hair made more sense. I wish he could somehow combine Biker and Deadman now just so he can be more witty at times

Sore loser Benoit is here and he's really mad!

I always thought Chyna in the Women's division was a huge step back but the whole woman vs. man thing had run its course.

I also feel like the Right To Censor stable could have gotten to nWo size if the Invasion didn't happen

Why didn't Steven Richards bother to come out with Ivory?

When Chyna pulled up Ivory I thought some sort of interference was coming to keep the belt on Ivory but I was wrong

Michael Cole looks ridiculous

It's interesting how the whole WCW purchase wasn't really part of this angle and just fell into it nicely

You would've thought Shane would have gotten his own music by now.

Let's give a shoutout to WCW's job squad! We can't even be bothered to get a decent shot of them!

Mick Foley wearing his best pajamas for this match

I thought Trish was Vince's private box?

I hope Stephanie never did her hair like that again

So many extras!

I haven't seen Shane in 5 minutes

The referee kicks the crap out of Vince. How is this fair?

I wonder how many people even remember where the "WAZZUP" thing came from

It's amazing that Daddy Dudley never made an appearance over the years.

"Speakin' of Spike!"

Run-in-palooza!

Jeff does the same huge ladder Swanton spot from last year

Jeff's spot with walking across the ladders would have been great if he didn't slip

The Edge spear spot has to be a Top 10 Mania moment

If only we knew the WWF allowed the Freebird Rule. Edge and Christian could have had Rhyno team with them whenever

Gene coming out to what sounds like Johnny B. Badd's original WCW music.

Gene Okerlund was a great interviewer but never a great commentator.

Weird edit in the middle of Okerlund's entrance

It's a shame they didn't hire back Okerlund and/or Heenan full time

I think this would have been more exciting as a Gimmick Royal Rumble. so you never know who's coming out next

Bobby calls Gene "Tony"

Sheik coming out to The Sultan's music

Doink lost his jacket

How did Harvey and Kim Chee wind up controlling Kamala again after all these years? And why didn't they throw Harvey into the match too?

Jim Cornette being entered in this made no sense. He should have joined the commentary team if anything.

Nikolai Volkoff's name spelled wrong

I was so mad at the Gobbledy Gooker being mislabeled as the Gobbly Gooker and the fact that it was clearly not the original costume

I wonder why they had Tugboat instead of Typhoon

Seriously, how is Hillbilly Jim not in the Hall of Fame yet?

Brother Love is another one that made zero sense here

There's actually 8 Hall of Famers in this match

Everyone gets thrown out so easily

There's guys STILL working indies today that weren't in this match for some reason

Huge pop for Sheik winning

Even though Jericho opened the show I somehow thought Jericho vs. HHH was the main event lol

Kane had to threaten to kill Stephanie for Taker to get this match

Lemmy needed a teleprompter

Was that the first time someone pulled Taker off the rope during old school? Probably not

Taker attacks the referee for no reason

JR "What you don't see is the referee goes up and counted these guys out ages ago!"

I'm not sure HBK interfering would have made this match any more interesting than it already was

I had completely forgotten the whole thing about Debra managing The Rock

"Shit" not being bleeped is very jarring

We really needed a match that took place mostly in the ring after the last one went all over the place

They re-do the Austin/Bret blood spot for some reason.

Austin gets to the rope and the referee makes Rock break the Sharpshooter even though it's No DQ

Now Austin uses the Sharpshooter. At this point a Bret Hart run-in would have made sense

Vince screws Rock and all the air rushes out of the place. The ending falls really flat with Austin turning heel

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Agreed, Jim should be a HOFer easily. Guy stopped wrestling when, late '80s? And he did all the remotes, shaking hands and making appearances on behalf of the company.
He's a good guy. Put him in.