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Post by héad.casé on Feb 19, 2017 8:28:11 GMT -5
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Feb 19, 2017 9:55:36 GMT -5
Jarrett's database is actually his EWR data
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 10:09:19 GMT -5
Kongo Kong for the X Division Championship confirmed!
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Post by schizo on Feb 19, 2017 12:17:29 GMT -5
"rival WWE"
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Post by Reflecto on Feb 19, 2017 12:20:42 GMT -5
Jarrett's database is actually his EWR data In all fairness, that wouldn't even be a bad thing- anyone with an EWR game could have salvaged TNA from the depths.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 19, 2017 12:43:21 GMT -5
in the same way that generic store brand cola is a rival to Coca Cola.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 19, 2017 12:55:49 GMT -5
I'm up for all the changes so long as Josh is fired.
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Feb 19, 2017 13:09:38 GMT -5
I'm up for all the changes so long as Josh is fired. josh vs. lashley shoot fight losers fired
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 13:48:58 GMT -5
I'm up for all the changes so long as Josh is fired. If Jarrett fires Matthews, he could come out of retirement and beat Lashley clean, and I wouldn't complain.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 19, 2017 17:45:37 GMT -5
I'm up for all the changes so long as Josh is fired. If Jarrett fires Matthews, he could come out of retirement and beat Lashley clean, and I wouldn't complain.
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Post by xCompackx on Feb 19, 2017 18:31:41 GMT -5
Given this is like, the 4th or 5th time there's been a drastic change in TNA's management and they've all promised to fix things, I'm gonna go ahead and assume that nothing's actually going to change. I mean, it's not like TNA was fantastic under Jeff Jarrett as he focused way too damn much on himself, brought in Russo multiple times, and squandered plenty of potential stars. And say they do change things for the better, what's even the goal? WWE isn't going anywhere and with NXT constantly gobbling up talent, I wonder how long TNA could keep guys before HHH comes calling.
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Post by Reflecto on Feb 19, 2017 18:36:56 GMT -5
Given this is like, the 4th or 5th time there's been a drastic change in TNA's management and they've all promised to fix things, I'm gonna go ahead and assume that nothing's actually going to change. I mean, it's not like TNA was fantastic under Jeff Jarrett as he focused way too damn much on himself, brought in Russo multiple times, and squandered plenty of potential stars. And say they do change things for the better, what's even the goal? WWE isn't going anywhere and with NXT constantly gobbling up talent, I wonder how long TNA could keep guys before HHH comes calling. The problem is right now, the expectations can be lowered. TNA getting to the promised land isn't happening- but the current team in place could absolutely get TNA back to where it was in 2007-08 where it wasn't GOOD by any means, but it truly FELT like a number two to WWE and felt like they may stand a chance. It's less "expect them to get to a competitor to WWE" and "settle for WCW in 2001 where it wasn't good, but felt like it was starting to come out of the darkness and turn the corner."
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Post by xCompackx on Feb 19, 2017 18:49:04 GMT -5
Given this is like, the 4th or 5th time there's been a drastic change in TNA's management and they've all promised to fix things, I'm gonna go ahead and assume that nothing's actually going to change. I mean, it's not like TNA was fantastic under Jeff Jarrett as he focused way too damn much on himself, brought in Russo multiple times, and squandered plenty of potential stars. And say they do change things for the better, what's even the goal? WWE isn't going anywhere and with NXT constantly gobbling up talent, I wonder how long TNA could keep guys before HHH comes calling. The problem is right now, the expectations can be lowered. TNA getting to the promised land isn't happening- but the current team in place could absolutely get TNA back to where it was in 2007-08 where it wasn't GOOD by any means, but it truly FELT like a number two to WWE and felt like they may stand a chance. It's less "expect them to get to a competitor to WWE" and "settle for WCW in 2001 where it wasn't good, but felt like it was starting to come out of the darkness and turn the corner." I suppose, but what then? I feel like I've heard "We're going to take TNA to the next level" so much that I don't even know what the next level actually is.
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Post by Shark on Feb 19, 2017 19:00:58 GMT -5
The effort of the teams has never really been the question. I honestly believe everyone in the company wants to do their best and gives their best. The thing people question is the quality of those efforts. You can try all you want as hard as you want, but if you suck, then you suck and that's just it.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 19, 2017 19:17:53 GMT -5
Well, it isn't likely going to get worse, so whatever. Do your level best, just don't expect me to get excited.
I do at least have some hope, however small, from them saying it'd be a gradual change from the sounds of things. Endless reboots haven't done TNA a whole lot of good.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 19, 2017 19:20:57 GMT -5
"We're not going to drastically overhaul the product because we've done that before and the defintiino of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, so instead we'll just keep things at the f***ing snoozefest they are now when our product is in the toilet" is such a stupid sentiment I'm not even really able to wrap my head around it. If they're not going to change anything and actually try to make the product worthwhile then what's even the point? I don't give a f*** about how much effort you're going to put into bad television, I want to see you tear everything down like you're a really staged and uninteresting home flipping show and give me a product that might not totally suck.
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Post by Reflecto on Feb 19, 2017 19:30:26 GMT -5
"We're not going to drastically overhaul the product because we've done that before and the defintiino of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, so instead we'll just keep things at the f***ing snoozefest they are now when our product is in the toilet" is such a stupid sentiment I'm not even really able to wrap my head around it. If they're not going to change anything and actually try to make the product worthwhile then what's even the point? I don't give a f*** about how much effort you're going to put into bad television, I want to see you tear everything down like you're a really staged and uninteresting home flipping show and give me a product that might not totally suck. But that's the problem. We've SEEN TNA do the quick fix. Many many times. The quick fix would just be "Del Rio, Barrett, and Ryback show up on the March tapings, and one of them leads DCC as it becomes a heel stable taking over the company." Right now, if TNA's going to succeed, they need to take from the success of the Broken Hardys and build around that- not by complete insanity, but by having a few things that are good, take, and running them into the endzone and building around that until they get a better show outright.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 19, 2017 20:01:38 GMT -5
"We're not going to drastically overhaul the product because we've done that before and the defintiino of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, so instead we'll just keep things at the f***ing snoozefest they are now when our product is in the toilet" is such a stupid sentiment I'm not even really able to wrap my head around it. If they're not going to change anything and actually try to make the product worthwhile then what's even the point? I don't give a f*** about how much effort you're going to put into bad television, I want to see you tear everything down like you're a really staged and uninteresting home flipping show and give me a product that might not totally suck. But that's the problem. We've SEEN TNA do the quick fix. Many many times. The quick fix would just be "Del Rio, Barrett, and Ryback show up on the March tapings, and one of them leads DCC as it becomes a heel stable taking over the company." Right now, if TNA's going to succeed, they need to take from the success of the Broken Hardys and build around that- not by complete insanity, but by having a few things that are good, take, and running them into the endzone and building around that until they get a better show outright. No but I don't mean a quick fix as in "bring in someone big and do a huge shake-up angle", I mean completely overhaul what they're doing on a creative level and go in a different direction. The Broken Matt saga is the first noteworthy and well received thing TNA has done in years, and it was unlike anything they had ever done before. But the show was bogged down by otherwise being more of the same, and the only time a "big Hardy shenanigans" episode wasn't bogged down by ninety minutes of a boring-ass wrestling show before that point was the episode that was entirely Hardy stuff, which is why outside of the one-week pops they'd get off of the ratings, most people didn't really stick around and in the long run it didn't mean very much of anything to growing an audience. TNA doesn't need a quick fix, they need to come up with a long-term direction of where they are going to take the show into, course correct into that, and roll with it.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 19, 2017 20:24:18 GMT -5
But that's the problem. We've SEEN TNA do the quick fix. Many many times. The quick fix would just be "Del Rio, Barrett, and Ryback show up on the March tapings, and one of them leads DCC as it becomes a heel stable taking over the company." Right now, if TNA's going to succeed, they need to take from the success of the Broken Hardys and build around that- not by complete insanity, but by having a few things that are good, take, and running them into the endzone and building around that until they get a better show outright. No but I don't mean a quick fix as in "bring in someone big and do a huge shake-up angle", I mean completely overhaul what they're doing on a creative level and go in a different direction. The Broken Matt saga is the first noteworthy and well received thing TNA has done in years, and it was unlike anything they had ever done before. But the show was bogged down by otherwise being more of the same, and the only time a "big Hardy shenanigans" episode wasn't bogged down by ninety minutes of a boring-ass wrestling show before that point was the episode that was entirely Hardy stuff, which is why outside of the one-week pops they'd get off of the ratings, most people didn't really stick around and in the long run it didn't mean very much of anything to growing an audience. TNA doesn't need a quick fix, they need to come up with a long-term direction of where they are going to take the show into, course correct into that, and roll with it. And people may not like it but I do not see the long term planning involving the Hardys. No way you are building the show around their "freak show" as it is most effective when given time so they have to make a decision soon as I believe their contracts are going to run out soon. It is going to be interesting to see the direction they go in for these tapings in regards to Hardys and Drew Galloway contracts running out
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 19, 2017 20:33:07 GMT -5
He's not saying they aren't going to be trying new and different things, just that no one should expect them all at once because that hasn't gone over well in the past. There will definitely be changes, but they will be ongoing and in stages.
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