Ultimo Gallos
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Feb 21, 2017 21:43:07 GMT -5
Brett did work for the WWE from 2008-2011. Brett was the one that ran in to help Orton in a Cena vs. Orton match where Legacy was banned from ringside. and Brett and Curtis Axel were the Fortunate Sons in FCW. Mike has never worked for the WWE. Thank you sir. I got them mixed up. That is what happens when I have just woke up and try to work off my memory and not fact check. Mike,from what I saw,was good. Brett is decent,but he wrestles so rarely now that he always seems a bit rusty. Ted jr is ,again from what I have seen,the best of the group in ring. Where as Mike is the best on the mic,and has similar charisma to their father.
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Ultimo Gallos
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Feb 21, 2017 21:46:56 GMT -5
Idk if I agree about Greg Valentine. More people know him than his dad I would imagine It's debatable for sure - Johnny was about as big as someone could get during the '60s without being NWA champ. Main eventer everywhere, something Greg never quite accomplished. Very similar to the Ivan Koloff/George Steele debate I had with someone in one of their RIP threads. Johnny won more regional heavyweight titles than Greg, had a much longer presence in the spotlight of his time (about 15 years, and a good part of it was during the Golden Age, when the shows he was on were broadcast nationwide alongside Gorgeous George and the like, before the truly regional territory system came into play). Greg certainly had much wider exposure for a briefer time of 3-5 years, but was already working his way down the card by that point, stuck in a tag team and then becoming a JTTS. I would say they are tied. Johnny was a bigger star ,but Greg was a slightly lower star that was on a World wide level during his WWF run. No idea how well known Johnny is world wide,cause really IIRC all I can think of for him and matches outside NA is what 2 in Japan? Both are still 2 of the greats. I just wish more footage of Johnny was out there.
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Post by Throwback on Feb 21, 2017 21:56:57 GMT -5
To repeat an earlier question What about Lanny Poffo? I know his brother casts a huge shadow. But I don't really know much about Angelo
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Crappler El 0 M
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Feb 21, 2017 22:04:32 GMT -5
To repeat an earlier question What about Lanny Poffo? I know his brother casts a huge shadow. But I don't really know much about Angelo On most levels, no, but the argument about overall level of fame and notoriety might favor Lanny since he had the run with Hogan, Warrior, and Perfect as The Genius. A lot of this would be due to it being more recent and on a bigger stage.
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Post by somsta on Feb 21, 2017 22:26:07 GMT -5
I don't think David Hart Smith has been mentioned.
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Crappler El 0 M
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Feb 21, 2017 22:37:17 GMT -5
I don't think David Hart Smith has been mentioned. He's nowhere near as famous as his dad was, but he's doing well for himself.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 21, 2017 22:40:08 GMT -5
I don't think David Hart Smith has been mentioned. Did the British Bulldog have a tribute shirt at the Official Fan store? I think not. Point SMITH
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 21, 2017 22:49:34 GMT -5
I think if we're talking shadow as in achieving the fame of their father, Dustin doesn't count, but I'd say he stands out as someone who isn't "Dusty's Kid", and hasn't been for a while now. In that sense, he escaped his father's shadow, being a star in his own right who wasn't relegated to being an extension of him.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 21, 2017 23:10:58 GMT -5
To repeat an earlier question What about Lanny Poffo? I know his brother casts a huge shadow. But I don't really know much about Angelo On most levels, no, but the argument about overall level of fame and notoriety might favor Lanny since he had the run with Hogan, Warrior, and Perfect as The Genius. A lot of this would be due to it being more recent and on a bigger stage. Angelo wasn't really all that big a star in his day. Midcard guy with a handful of title reigns or noticeable short runs, most of them in tag teams. At most. Lanny on the other hand, had high-card/main event runs in ICW and Memphis (granted, the former was his dad's promotion), then a long JTTS run for Vince during a peak time, and then got paid for years to sit at home. Also he can **** his own ****. So I'd say I lean in Lanny's favor.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Feb 21, 2017 23:44:29 GMT -5
Haku's kids are a mixed bag.
Tama Tonga is fine, but Tanga Roa is nothing to call home about...though he is improving.
His third and youngest son, whose name escapes me and is just starting with New Japan, is a legit monster. He dwarfs Fale. I'd be shocked if he weren't WWE-bound at some point.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Feb 21, 2017 23:52:20 GMT -5
On most levels, no, but the argument about overall level of fame and notoriety might favor Lanny since he had the run with Hogan, Warrior, and Perfect as The Genius. A lot of this would be due to it being more recent and on a bigger stage. Angelo wasn't really all that big a star in his day. Midcard guy with a handful of title reigns or noticeable short runs, most of them in tag teams. At most. Lanny on the other hand, had high-card/main event runs in ICW and Memphis (granted, the former was his dad's promotion), then a long JTTS run for Vince during a peak time, and then got paid for years to sit at home. Also he can **** his own ****. So I'd say I lean in Lanny's favor. Fair enough. It's kind of tough to gauge how Angelo and Lanny would rank against each other, especially since Angelo's peak may have been in the late 1950s. Angelo was never really a major star. Reading up on him, he had a decent run in the '50s appearing on the Dupont Network, winning the Television Title from Wilbur Snyder. This is the title that Verne Gagne held for years when he couldn't get a shot at the NWA title, though the title was not seen as prestigious when Poffo held it. He had a decent run in Chicago, but started becoming more of a part-time wrestler in the 1960s, choosing to work as a PE teacher and focusing on his family. Not really living though this era, it's pretty hard to gauge his success or notoriety in comparison to Lanny.
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Post by thetower52 on Feb 22, 2017 1:16:51 GMT -5
What about Blue Demon and Blue Demon Jr?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 22, 2017 9:29:52 GMT -5
This might be harder due to the country but what about Dos Caras and Alberto?
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Post by Adam Black on Feb 22, 2017 14:24:21 GMT -5
Katsuyori Shibata, his father was a referee.
Richie Steamboat suffered a career ending injury before he could become anything close to his father.
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Post by bitteroldman on Feb 22, 2017 22:59:28 GMT -5
Has anyone mentioned Eric Angle? Or Vic Steamboat?
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Post by Milkman Norm on Feb 22, 2017 23:27:21 GMT -5
Has anyone mentioned Eric Angle? Or Vic Steamboat? Man I wish that promo was still online.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 22, 2017 23:38:00 GMT -5
Has anyone mentioned Eric Angle? Or Vic Steamboat? When I first read and was responding to this thread, I took it more as a "less successful than their dad" thing, but actually paying attention I see we're going with all previous relatives and holy shit that opens the door for hundreds more. Literally hundreds.
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Post by Throwback on Feb 23, 2017 0:38:57 GMT -5
Has anyone mentioned Eric Angle? Or Vic Steamboat? When I first read and was responding to this thread, I took it more as a "less successful than their dad" thing, but actually paying attention I see we're going with all previous relatives and holy shit that opens the door for hundreds more. Literally hundreds. Yet I'm kinda surprised there's been no Bruce vs Bret Discussion lol I heard Beefcakes Daughter was training. any word on how that's going?
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 23, 2017 6:25:04 GMT -5
Ted DiBiase Jr. In fairness he seemed to want to get out the wrestling life and once he did he never looked back The biggest obstacle for Ted was that after Legacy, WWE tried to make him his father. That doesn't fit him, he's not the asshole son of Million Dollar Man, he's the polite son of Ted Dibiase the preacher. From all accounts, Dibiase Party Posse Ted was closest to his real self.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 23, 2017 9:21:19 GMT -5
Ted DiBiase Jr. In fairness he seemed to want to get out the wrestling life and once he did he never looked back The biggest obstacle for Ted was that after Legacy, WWE tried to make him his father. That doesn't fit him, he's not the asshole son of Million Dollar Man, he's the polite son of Ted Dibiase the preacher. From all accounts, Dibiase Party Posse Ted was closest to his real self. It didn't help that they never really filmed any vignettes or did anything with the gimmick. His entire gimmick was he had the Million Dollar Title and Michael Cole talked about how rich he was. The original MDM would have failed if they did the same thing... instead of showing him being a rich asshole throwing his cash to get people to demean themselves and buy out a pool... etc. he was one of the biggest examples of the WWE forgetting the SHOW don't Tell rule.
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