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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Feb 21, 2017 20:54:26 GMT -5
Very tough to predict, but how do you see it going down?
I could see Vince still turning Tugboat heel and giving him a monster push against Hogan to main event. Slaughter was also still supposed to be brought back. Maybe he stays heel and reverts to his 1980's evil drill sergeant gimmick. Or feuds with an evil foreign menace as a face.
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Post by lws on Feb 21, 2017 21:14:33 GMT -5
Stretch out Hulk getting revenge on Earthquake. Do a tag match at SummerSlam, Quake/Bravo vs. Hogan/Tugboat, Hogan and his buddy win. At Survivor Series, Hogan gets DQ'ed out of the inevitable 5-on-5 match and Quake wins for his team, earning a title shot at the Rumble. Quake beats Warrior for the title, Hogan wins the Rumble itself, Mania writes itself.
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Post by Spider2024 on Feb 21, 2017 21:47:09 GMT -5
Stretch out Hulk getting revenge on Earthquake. Do a tag match at SummerSlam, Quake/Bravo vs. Hogan/Tugboat, Hogan and his buddy win. At Survivor Series, Hogan gets DQ'ed out of the inevitable 5-on-5 match and Quake wins for his team, earning a title shot at the Rumble. Quake beats Warrior for the title, Hogan wins the Rumble itself, Mania writes itself. Quake as champ would've been awesome (even as just a transitional champ.) |
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Feb 21, 2017 21:51:03 GMT -5
The concept of heel Tugboat main eventing a Wrestlemania is depressing, but that's probably what it would have been. So, essentially, a sneak preview of Starrcade 94, with Hogan brute forcing his buddy into a role he had no right to.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 22:02:16 GMT -5
I think Quake would have worked, but by WM 7, they would have feuded for almost a year counting the house show circuit, so it would have been stretching it out a lot.
Slaughter as a heel but without the Iraqi sympathizer gimmick would have probably been the alternative. Slaughter was awful in 90-91, IMO, so that feud would have sucked regardless.
It's a shame that what happened in 1991 did not happen a year earlier. Jake as a heel, Taker making his mark, Flair coming in, Sid coming in, etc. They could have gotten a ton of great material with Warrior as champion and Hulk in non-title feuds with those fresh options, as opposed to a year later when they couldn't even get Hogan/Flair, Warrior/Jake, etc, off the ground on a grander scale.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Feb 22, 2017 0:03:28 GMT -5
There's also the issue of where it would have happened. They announced it would be at the L.A. Memorial Coliseum during Wrestlemania VI so you have to wonder what was Vince's initial plan back then to fill out that place. If he even had a plan that is. Maybe the Hogan/Warrior rematch?
The Gulf War however gave them a convenient excuse to shift it to the Sports Arena when the ticket sales were so low.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Feb 22, 2017 0:52:12 GMT -5
There's also the issue of where it would have happened. They announced it would be at the L.A. Memorial Coliseum during Wrestlemania VI so you have to wonder what was Vince's initial plan back then to fill out that place. If he even had a plan that is. Maybe the Hogan/Warrior rematch? The Gulf War however gave them a convenient excuse to shift it to the Sports Arena when the ticket sales were so low. My assumption was always that only booked a 100,000 seat arena banking on a Hogan/Warrior rematch. No way he thought anything else was going to draw that many people. And man, I love Quake to death, but Hogan/Quake would not have filled the Memorial Coliseum. The Sports Arena, sure. But not the Coliseum. Vince definitely wanted that WM6 rematch, there's no doubt in my mind. |
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Post by Renslayer on Feb 22, 2017 1:53:30 GMT -5
Assuming they do Warrior v Hogan 2, where does that leave Savage? He had been chasing Warrior since September of '90 & if you're building for the Hogan rematch at Mania, you've gotta get Savage out the way by the Royal Rumble at the absolute latest. And if they did do it, it wouldn't have had the high stakes that the Mania match had.
And without the war, the WWF loses Slaughter in the main event as well as the theme of the entire show. Hard to turn the patriotism up to 1000 when there's no reason to.
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Post by Paco on Feb 22, 2017 4:57:22 GMT -5
Vince did NOT want Hogan/Warrior 2.
Bruce Prichard has made that clear on a few editions of his podcast but again most recently on this week's episode on WrestleMania VI.
The buyrate went down from V to VI.
Vince blamed it on Face vs. Face main events not drawing as much.
Until Slaughter became an Iraqi Sympathizer, the plan was indeed a heel Tugboat.
Yup. Yikes.
In Vince's mind, the classic "friend turns on Hogan" formula = $$$
Orndorff? Sure!
Andre? Of Course!
Savage? Great!
Now Tugboat? Umm...
Let's not forget that Sid "turned" on Hogan for the following year's Mania.
(I put "turned" in quotation marks because we all know that selfish asshole Hogan turned on Sid!)
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 22, 2017 5:50:53 GMT -5
Vince did NOT want Hogan/Warrior 2. Bruce Prichard has made that clear on a few editions of his podcast but again most recently on this week's episode on WrestleMania VI. The buyrate went down from V to VI. Vince blamed it on Face vs. Face main events not drawing as much. Until Slaughter became an Iraqi Sympathizer, the plan was indeed a heel Tugboat. Yup. Yikes. In Vince's mind, the classic "friend turns on Hogan" formula = $$$ Orndorff? Sure! Andre? Of Course! Savage? Great! Now Tugboat? Umm... Let's not forget that Sid "turned" on Hogan for the following year's Mania. (I put "turned" in quotation marks because we all know that selfish asshole Hogan turned on Sid!) Hey, Hogan was offering him a handshake congratulating him on a fair elimination, it's not his fault the guy slipped! |
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Post by dirtyoldman on Feb 22, 2017 11:06:22 GMT -5
Didn't Sid get a little mouthy with Hogan after he eliminated him? If he had just shrugged and said 'sorry, mate' then Hogan would have been the ultimate dick.
I still reckon Earthquake and Slaughter should have swapped places in the Royal Rumble that year and Quake took the wwf title. Hogan never pinned him at summerslam or survivor series and with Quake beating Warrior could make him the ultimate bad guy. It might have stretched the fued to 9 months or so, but well it was different back then, wasn't it?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 22, 2017 11:10:28 GMT -5
I kinda wonder how well Slaughter would have done with his original turn just being based on people cheering for Nikolai Volkoff and just being a cold war relic.
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Post by James Fabiano on Feb 22, 2017 13:44:27 GMT -5
Heel Warrior vs. Hogan?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 22, 2017 13:46:23 GMT -5
I kinda wonder how well Slaughter would have done with his original turn just being based on people cheering for Nikolai Volkoff and just being a cold war relic. Like a lot of other times before and after, I think creative wouldn't have had any faith in their audience to "get" that motivation |
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Feb 22, 2017 13:54:13 GMT -5
I have no reason to doubt Prichard. Besides, Hogan vs his former friend who is also a big guy just sounds so incredibly Vince.
I actually have no problem with the Slaughter main event, I just wish they had gotten there a different way.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Feb 22, 2017 15:24:07 GMT -5
And without the war, the WWF loses Slaughter in the main event as well as the theme of the entire show. Hard to turn the patriotism up to 1000 when there's no reason to. I'm not so sure. Without any prompting from current events, Vince decided in the summer of 1993 that the USA and Japan were enemies again and used that patriotism angle for Summerslam. I think it probably still ends up being Hogan and Slaughter. How much history are we changing? There could be a scenario with no Gulf War were we still as a nation are not big on Saddam Hussien. I can't imagine Vince seeing Adnan and not wanting to do this angle if Saddam is still a global figure. If they had a childhood friend of Putin of some controversial world leader in WWE today, you'd bet they'd use him in a USA vs Other Country storyline. The more I think about it, A LOT of history would need to be changed to drastically change the booking of WrestleMania VII |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 22, 2017 19:18:10 GMT -5
Thinking Hogan and a heel Iraqi Tugboat would move 100,000 tickets is the most insane Vince idea ever. Nothing else is even close. Not even the fake stuff created here.
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 22, 2017 19:23:57 GMT -5
Hogan vs Warrior or Hogan vs Macho.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Feb 22, 2017 19:59:05 GMT -5
If the goal truly was to sell 100,000 tickets, I don't think they had anything available that would have done that.
I'm not saying they couldn't have came closer than what they did, but at that point in time, I don't see anything selling 100,000 seats.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 22, 2017 20:07:19 GMT -5
I would love to have seen heel Iraqi Fred Ottman, they could have renamed him Scudboat.
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