Is New Day introducing Hulk Hogan still a rumor?
Mar 30, 2017 1:01:45 GMT -5
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Post by eJm on Mar 30, 2017 1:01:45 GMT -5
Ok, I didn't want to say much but here's the quick jist without gong into it all again.
You can bring up Warrior, Hayes, JBL, Styles, Vince, Michaels, Cornette etc for any kind of prejudices, bullying, surreal things they've said etc and if you are saying those should be called out on a bigger stage, I won't disagree with you at all.
None of those people have the reach of Hogan. None of those people are seen as one of the pillars of professional wrestling or even of popular culture in the 80s and 90s. When he was even in the WWE recently, he was still asked to do appearances for big organisations like Facebook or even asked to go on talk shows to talk about stuff and cut Hogan promos.
Hogan saying what he said, even if it was recorded and leaked without his consent (which is a crime and nobody says otherwise) completely changes people's interpretation about him as a wide mainstream figure. Instead of being someone who could be seen by everyone, he basically said, in his words, "I am a racist". He's potentially isolated a large subsection of people from caring about him or the people he associates with ever again. We live in such a politically charged climate (and this gives nobody permission to go into that here) that it's entirely possible more than it would have been in the 80s or 90s for better or worse.
And this brings me to my second point. Yes, he did apologise for it. And then immidiantly showed that he learned nothing from the actions and might as well hadn't said anything. There was the retweets from supporters, the lack of understanding of what he did wrong, the media tour where he basically was saying "Woe is me, I justifiably lost my job because I'm bad PR" which, even after all that, STILL earned him a place in the mainstream for a brief second (he had a high profile interview on BBC Radio 5 Live in the U.K. Months after, for example) before they realised all that.
People aren't likely to forget as easily as they did back then, for better or worse. If Hogan comes back to the fold, it's absolutely more likely to hurt WWE than it did before with the mainstream negativity, the backlashes, the stock price drops (the one thing that'll more than likely get the company to notice the mistake than the other stuff) that I don't see why they would want that stuff especially when ratings are already lower than they have been for a long time with mainstream recognition, even then, a bit more than it has been (almost every website I go to covers pro wrestling in some way and it's REALLY weird).
Look, this isn't justifying any other actions and if Hogan has shown any awareness of what has happened and done anything to make good instead of trying to make people feel sorry for him, then bringing him back makes sense. But he hasn't. At all. So why reward the guy because he did stuff 30+ years ago whe he doesn't seem to give a damn about it?
You can bring up Warrior, Hayes, JBL, Styles, Vince, Michaels, Cornette etc for any kind of prejudices, bullying, surreal things they've said etc and if you are saying those should be called out on a bigger stage, I won't disagree with you at all.
None of those people have the reach of Hogan. None of those people are seen as one of the pillars of professional wrestling or even of popular culture in the 80s and 90s. When he was even in the WWE recently, he was still asked to do appearances for big organisations like Facebook or even asked to go on talk shows to talk about stuff and cut Hogan promos.
Hogan saying what he said, even if it was recorded and leaked without his consent (which is a crime and nobody says otherwise) completely changes people's interpretation about him as a wide mainstream figure. Instead of being someone who could be seen by everyone, he basically said, in his words, "I am a racist". He's potentially isolated a large subsection of people from caring about him or the people he associates with ever again. We live in such a politically charged climate (and this gives nobody permission to go into that here) that it's entirely possible more than it would have been in the 80s or 90s for better or worse.
And this brings me to my second point. Yes, he did apologise for it. And then immidiantly showed that he learned nothing from the actions and might as well hadn't said anything. There was the retweets from supporters, the lack of understanding of what he did wrong, the media tour where he basically was saying "Woe is me, I justifiably lost my job because I'm bad PR" which, even after all that, STILL earned him a place in the mainstream for a brief second (he had a high profile interview on BBC Radio 5 Live in the U.K. Months after, for example) before they realised all that.
People aren't likely to forget as easily as they did back then, for better or worse. If Hogan comes back to the fold, it's absolutely more likely to hurt WWE than it did before with the mainstream negativity, the backlashes, the stock price drops (the one thing that'll more than likely get the company to notice the mistake than the other stuff) that I don't see why they would want that stuff especially when ratings are already lower than they have been for a long time with mainstream recognition, even then, a bit more than it has been (almost every website I go to covers pro wrestling in some way and it's REALLY weird).
Look, this isn't justifying any other actions and if Hogan has shown any awareness of what has happened and done anything to make good instead of trying to make people feel sorry for him, then bringing him back makes sense. But he hasn't. At all. So why reward the guy because he did stuff 30+ years ago whe he doesn't seem to give a damn about it?