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Post by Juice on Apr 30, 2017 13:23:26 GMT -5
Im 29 and from a poor family. Every member of my family had a vcr and bought tapes growing up. They cant have been that expensive 87-90's because we for sure wouldnt have had them. My grandfather still doesn't even have cable.
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El Pollo Guerrera
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Apr 30, 2017 14:30:59 GMT -5
Im 29 and from a poor family. Every member of my family had a vcr and bought tapes growing up. They cant have been that expensive 87-90's because we for sure wouldnt have had them. My grandfather still doesn't even have cable. They (the studios) would release movies on VHS in two stages, first to rental stores and then months later to retailers at a cheaper price. Think back, do you remember ever looking for a movie that the video store had that you wanted to buy but you couldn't find at a regular store? That's why. We used to have lists of people who wanted to buy previously viewed copies of movies because it would be so long between rental and retail releases.
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Juice
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Post by Juice on Apr 30, 2017 15:32:46 GMT -5
Im 29 and from a poor family. Every member of my family had a vcr and bought tapes growing up. They cant have been that expensive 87-90's because we for sure wouldnt have had them. My grandfather still doesn't even have cable. They (the studios) would release movies on VHS in two stages, first to rental stores and then months later to retailers at a cheaper price. Think back, do you remember ever looking for a movie that the video store had that you wanted to buy but you couldn't find at a regular store? That's why. We used to have lists of people who wanted to buy previously viewed copies of movies because it would be so long between rental and retail releases. Honestly no I can't remember shopping for them. We did but from video stores from time to time. And rented from grocery stores too. Like 5 rentals for 8 bucks or some shit. I do remember only getting Waynes World and Addams Family from Mcdonalds
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Apr 30, 2017 16:43:37 GMT -5
I have the complete collection of those WWF tapes they used to advertise in the magazine. You'd get one a month or something, the first one was Best of Hulkamania. No earthly idea what those cost, but with the dollar exchange and shipping it couldn't have been cheap. B
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on May 1, 2017 0:53:40 GMT -5
I can remember by the time Walmart it Jackson County MS,87ish I think,you could get some VHS for as cheap as 15 bucks. Most were 30. But around 90 the standard price seemed to be 20 bucks when it first came out,then it would drop to 15 about a year later.
DVD on the other hand dropped in price extremely fast. Got my first player early 98 and it was 35 to 40 for a normal dvd. By what 2003 you had 5 buck non-public domain dvds in stores.I am guessing maybe the manufacturing costs on DVDs is cheaper. I do know I know of way more people that own at least say 50 dvds than I did people that owned at least say 20 pre-record VHS.
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Post by theironyuppie on May 3, 2017 8:51:03 GMT -5
DVD really took off with the PS2 I remember video stores having a relatively even mix of videos and DVDs for a while, then they rapidly went toward DVD around that time. Of course, its harder and harder to find actual video stores these days.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on May 4, 2017 2:03:33 GMT -5
I miss VHS, outside of the crappy pan & scan.
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Post by celticjobber on May 4, 2017 5:31:49 GMT -5
Probably around the early 2000's. I know video stores were paying about $100 for VHS tapes as late as 1998.
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Post by paulbearer on May 4, 2017 21:35:36 GMT -5
I used to joke that the germans made crappy BASF tapes on purpose since they lost WW2 cuz everytime I bought a 4 hr or even worse 5hr tape it was always faulty (not to mention expensive , 100 krones in early 90s)
TDK was pretty good though.
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Post by Joe Neglia on May 4, 2017 22:31:13 GMT -5
It was more expensive for rental stores to buy VHS movies to rent. They had to get from a certain distributor in order to legally rent them so the price was higher so the movie companies made the money. I can remember seeing the order form at a movie place in my hometown and being shocked at the prices when I knew at Walmart they were like 15-25 bucks a pop. The owner of the store told me that. So that's what I've always believed Yes and no. There was always an SRP for VHS tapes through distributors, but it was pretty much in-line with what you'd find elsewhere...except Walmart which was pretty much selling them near (or even less than) cost as a loss-leader. "Affordable to own" VHS didn't happen all at once, nor did it ever become fully the norm. Two of the early affordable "lines" were the Disney films - mostly because they kept to their "limited time" shtick and presented their line as something meant to own as a treasure, not just another videotape; and the plethora of public domain companies that started to get in on the action and since they had little overhead could get their tapes into big box stores for less than $10. At the same time, older catalog titles from some - not all but some - companies would see their SRPs drop here and there until they were in the $10-25 range...usually about at least two-five years after they first came out. Then toward the late 80s, they realized that big "event" family films could rake it massive dough if they sold them under $30 and most of them (Batman, TMNT, etc) started doing that, but they were exceptions. There was a big hoo-ha back then over Dick Tracy not getting that treatment (everyone expected it) with some retail chains threanening to snap up used rentals of the film and sell them anyway. By the time DVD first started showing up around '97-98, more and more VHS were being released at PTO (priced to own) instead of PTR (to rent) and almost got the whole field down to PTO level (there were still a few holdouts on keeping the PTR thing going...I seem to recall Warners being the real sticklers on that even as the market died and my store just stopped getting them due to it, going with DVD-only on those titles.
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Post by turkeysandwich on May 4, 2017 23:08:57 GMT -5
I found a VHS catalog from 1992 and took a pic of one page, prices are either about $100 or $13-20:
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on May 5, 2017 1:00:53 GMT -5
Just remembered something else about VHS pricing... in the dying days of WCW (mid-to-late 2000), we received a notice from the distributor we normally dealt with that if we wanted any of the new WCW events, we would have to pre-order (and pre-pay, of course) six months in advance. And we couldn't pick what shows to order, we would have to get at least one of everything they released. Needless to say the boss didn't follow through with this, so I have no idea what the upcoming shows would have been. I just remember at the time thinking it was funny that they were trying to squeeze every last dime they could out of the customers.
And you know what, I think they were still asking for $30-40 a tape then.
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Post by ToyfareMark on May 5, 2017 9:20:47 GMT -5
The first VHS I remember being "priced to own" was E.T. in the late 80's.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on May 5, 2017 10:29:14 GMT -5
I remember seeing an old TV Guide that had Robocop listed around $100 back when it was coming out in 1988. My family never paid that much for a VHS release and we had the official Batman VHS. I remember seeing those "now priced to own" commercials when I was a kid so I'd have to say the prices changed around 89 or 90. Rental stores were doing well and a lot of people just weren't spending $100 on movies. So prices came down and demand for affordable home releases went up. Not everyone jumped on it all at once but that was the turning point. All companies followed eventually or they just went out of business.
I wonder if the move was inspired by the adult movie industry. Porn was making crazy money in the 80s. I'd think once Hollywood got wind of how much profit they were pulling in they'd want to follow the example and start making that kind of money too.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on May 5, 2017 10:31:29 GMT -5
I miss VHS, outside of the crappy pan & scan. I've actually started buying VHS again.
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Post by Z-A Sandbaggin' Son of a b!%@h on May 5, 2017 15:21:12 GMT -5
I found a VHS catalog from 1992 and took a pic of one page, prices are either about $100 or $13-20: Fried Green tomatos. $94.99. Worth it
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on May 5, 2017 18:23:31 GMT -5
I miss VHS, outside of the crappy pan & scan. I've actually started buying VHS again. Over the 2 years been collecting VHS again,got right at 400 VHS tapes. And never paid more than a buck,usually it is 25 cents a tape.
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Post by wildojinx on May 5, 2017 18:54:28 GMT -5
I sometimes go "vhs hunting", but the problem is I rarely find what i'm looking for (80s slasher films, old Coliseum videos, 80s/90s cartoons, music video collections) "in the wild" (yeah, you could just order them from Ebay or Amazon, but its more fun to go out looking for them).
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Post by dragonofearth on May 6, 2017 10:40:15 GMT -5
i'd say they became cheap in the mid-to-late 90's once DVD started to take off. i still remember my first purchase was Diehard 2 and some other movie
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Post by Throwback on May 6, 2017 22:32:09 GMT -5
I found a VHS catalog from 1992 and took a pic of one page, prices are either about $100 or $13-20: whoa. I got white men can't jump for christmas when it came out. I can't see my dad paying almost $100 for any movie let alone that movie.
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