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Post by Jiren on Jun 20, 2017 8:43:59 GMT -5
While it gets a bit too Burtonesque at times, I still really like it.
I'd say it's second behind "Batman 89"
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 20, 2017 9:21:45 GMT -5
Batman forever blows this out of the water, IMO. In terms of re-watch-ability, I even think I'd take Batman and Robin over 'Returns' *puts up flame shield* For me I'd rank them Dark Knight Batman Begins Batman Dark Knight Rises Batman vs. Superman (Affleck's Batman sequences are incredible, but its dragged down by just about everything else) Batman Forever Batman Returns Batman and Robin I'd actually probably rewatch Batman and Robin before rewatching Returns due to the camp value, though |
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 20, 2017 9:34:31 GMT -5
Batman forever blows this out of the water, IMO. In terms of re-watch-ability, I even think I'd take Batman and Robin over 'Returns' *puts up flame shield* I'd actually probably rewatch Batman and Robin before rewatching Returns due to the camp value, though Yeah, I totally get it. It's why I'd go with it over 'Returns'. There's something so delightfully fun about it in a "so bad it's good" way. |
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jun 20, 2017 10:20:51 GMT -5
"Life's a bitch and so am I...." Was the movie Burton's (name redacted) in WCW 1999-2000 to him being (Redacted) during his WWF stay from 1997-99 for the '89 movie? Yes. But I still enjoy it. Huh? |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 20, 2017 10:23:15 GMT -5
"Life's a bitch and so am I...." Was the movie Burton's (name redacted) in WCW 1999-2000 to him being (Redacted) during his WWF stay from 1997-99 for the '89 movie? Yes. But I still enjoy it. Huh? He's saying Returns was Russo in WCW, compared to the original being Russo in the WWF. |
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Post by James Fabiano on Jun 20, 2017 12:11:16 GMT -5
"Life's a bitch and so am I...." Was the movie Burton's (name redacted) in WCW 1999-2000 to him being (Redacted) during his WWF stay from 1997-99 for the '89 movie? Yes. But I still enjoy it. Huh? A certain writer we're not allowed to mention the name of right now, bro. |
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jun 20, 2017 12:46:17 GMT -5
I see.
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Ben Wyatt
Crow T. Robot
Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 20, 2017 13:31:09 GMT -5
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 21, 2017 1:41:47 GMT -5
There are things I really like about Returns and things I really, really, really do not. Batman setting people on fire falls onto the "do not" side. A certain writer we're not allowed to mention the name of right now, bro. y'all can mention his name, I just wanted a breather from the threads about him for a bit, they weren't going very well. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 21, 2017 1:53:50 GMT -5
There are things I really like about Returns and things I really, really, really do not. Batman setting people on fire falls onto the "do not" side. As does sticking a bomb in someone's pants and blowing him up. That's in character for the Punisher, not Batman. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 21, 2017 8:01:07 GMT -5
There are things I really like about Returns and things I really, really, really do not. Batman setting people on fire falls onto the "do not" side. A certain writer we're not allowed to mention the name of right now, bro. y'all can mention his name, I just wanted a breather from the threads about him for a bit, they weren't going very well. Also, if you don't say his name, it just gives him more power. Like Voldemort. |
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Post by madness50 on Jun 23, 2017 20:37:47 GMT -5
Watched Returns right after watching Batman. It is extremely jarring at the differences between the two movies. I am a fan of Returns being set at Christmas, but it felt more like a Burton movie that featured Batman in a supporting role.
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Jun 23, 2017 21:11:05 GMT -5
I still really dig this one. It's the best looking one on blu ray as well. Friggin' beautiful movie.
My ranking would go like this (live action, wise):
The Dark Knight
Batman (1989)
Batman Returns
Batman Begins
Batman (1960's)
Batman vs. Superman
Dark Knight Rises
Suicide Squad
Batman Forever
and then waaayyyyy at the bottom
Batman & Robin
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 23, 2017 21:16:48 GMT -5
1. Batman Begins
2. Batman Forever
3. The Dark Knight
4. Batman '89
5. Batman Returns
6. Batman and Robin
7. Batman '66
8. The Dark Knight Rises
9. Batman v Superman
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Post by Jiren on Jun 23, 2017 21:57:51 GMT -5
- Batman (89)
- Batman Returns
- Dark Knight
- Batman (66)
- Batman Forever
- Batman Begins
- Batman & Robin
- Batman vs Superman (Theatrical)
- Dark Knight Rises
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Post by facethatrunstheplace on Jun 24, 2017 18:36:18 GMT -5
I'll always have a special place in my heart for this movie because it's one of three Batman movies that I actually saw in a theatre. And what an experience it was after the Penguin had died a woman told people to get up to mourn his loss. It was without a doubt the most bizarre reaction that I've ever witnessed for a character in a movie.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 24, 2017 18:41:55 GMT -5
I hate this movie. Batman murders people. And he is irrelevant to his own movie. It's all about the villains, some of whom are completely new creations for the movie, which seems insane with an IP with as many villains as this. It's miserable, and dark, and it's got no fun in it at all.
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Post by madness50 on Jun 25, 2017 22:29:39 GMT -5
Watching this back, it's amazing that Warner Brothers let Burton get away with a lot of the stuff he did in Batman Returns.
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Post by madness50 on Jun 25, 2017 22:32:10 GMT -5
I hate this movie. Batman murders people. And he is irrelevant to his own movie. It's all about the villains, some of whom are completely new creations for the movie, which seems insane with an IP with as many villains as this. It's miserable, and dark, and it's got no fun in it at all. Batman kills way too much in Batman Returns, truth be told he killed even more in Batman in 1989. I also am not a fan of Batman being a supporting actor. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 26, 2017 0:18:43 GMT -5
It's a myth that Burton sidelined Batman/Bruce Wayne in his two movies. He didn't. Burton simply weaves Batman and the villains together. In the first movie, Batman and the Joker create each other. In the second film, Bruce and Selina have the same issues with duality. Each loses themselves in their alter-egos. As for the Penguin, he's like the warped version of Bruce Wayne. They are both from wealth and high society. Bruce lost his parents. The Penguin's parents intentionally lost him. As for killing, I have no problem with it. He's fighting psychopaths. It's kill or be killed. It also has a wicked sense of black humour, like when he sticks the bomb into that big guy's pants. Now I'm sure big guy had a family who miss him, but it was hilarious to me.
It also has scenes like this, which have such a beautiful dark and eerie tone.
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