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Post by brody on Jul 8, 2017 7:34:21 GMT -5
I went to the XWF house show in Green Bay. I loved seeing the legends. Sable appeared the next night in Milwaukee, but not here for some reason.
200 year old Greg Valentine beat Hail (IIRC) and Josh Matthews had a great (?) match with Kid Kash.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jul 10, 2017 1:04:54 GMT -5
I have a huge obsession with the late 1999 to early 2003 wrestling scene. One of these days, I'm going to watch all of the failed/wannabe promotions from that time period in order. (XPW, WXO, i-Generation, TCW, MECW, XWF, WWA and maybe some of those RF Video Elks Lodge shows. The only one not available at all is the original IWC.) It'll be expensive, tedious to collect and most likely terrible, but it'll be a hell of a lot of fun. Add 3PW into the mix as well. A slick talking con man who promises the world but delivers nothing (Jason Collins of MECW infamy) John Collins, not Jason. There sure were a bunch of these, weren't there? Some others that got national exposure during that period: MLW (Major League Wrestling) - Court Bauer's mini-ECW UWA (Urban Wrestling Alliance) - Tried to fuse wrestling and rap culture of the time WOW (Women of Wrestling) - GLOW for the new generation. (I know it technically lasted longer but it really pretty much died after that last PPV) UPW (Ultimate Pro Wrestling) - the WWE developmental that gave us Cena. Granted, it lasted longer than the OP's cut-off date, but those first few years when they were actually getting noticed and had DVDs in Suncoast stores next to WWF shows is all that really matters in that regard. APW (All Pro Wrestling) - The infamous promotion run by Roland Alexander, it too existed prior to and after the time period, but the only part of it anyone knows (Starting with their Beyond the Mat appearance through 2002, when the entire roster bailed on Roland) is the part to watch. And of course, Heroes of Wrestling, which lasted one glorious trainwreck of a PPV Some very similar promotions that existed just slightly before the time period that I love and kinda lump into the same bucket: AWF (American Wrestling Federation) - The one with tons of ex-WWF guys, paid audiences, matches done in rounds and using film stock instead of video NWA Pro Wrestling Dallas - Around 1995, Jim Crockett tried to get back into wrestling promoting and run a show in Dallas at the Sportatorium. It didn't last long. CWA (Confederate Wrestling Alliance) - A nothing promotion that is only notable for one thing: Managing to get one PPV on the air in 1996 (Bodyguards & Bandits) and it's one of the absolute worst pieces of trash ever shown.
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Jul 10, 2017 1:11:19 GMT -5
Post by Joe Neglia on Jul 10, 2017 1:11:19 GMT -5
I went to the XWF house show in Green Bay. I had tickets to the one that was to be held in the Oil Palace in Tyler, TX. Naturally, the day before, word started hitting the internet that the day's previous show had been cancelled without telling the workers, who all showed up and signed autographs anyway. I was hoping it was a singular situation, but sure enough, the next day the Tyler show too was cancelled. I went to the Palace anyway, hoping for a repeat of what the wrestlers had done the day before, but no luck. They'd all gone home after the other show and didn't even bother coming to this one. That was pretty much the end of the XWF and I'm still pissed because it was my one chance I would have had to meet Roddy Piper in person.
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Jul 10, 2017 8:47:44 GMT -5
Post by James Fabiano on Jul 10, 2017 8:47:44 GMT -5
Wow someone remembers Bodyguards vs. Bandits??? I am stunned that no one has tried to upload that! I want to see it just cause I have this perverse obsession with post-"good" GWF wrestling from the Sportatorium.
Now, this is before that 1999-2003 period, but does any footage exist of the WWN tapings in New York from 1994? Jim Crockett and Paul Heyman were both involved.
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brody
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The XWF
Jul 10, 2017 10:34:01 GMT -5
Post by brody on Jul 10, 2017 10:34:01 GMT -5
I went to the XWF house show in Green Bay. I had tickets to the one that was to be held in the Oil Palace in Tyler, TX. Naturally, the day before, word started hitting the internet that the day's previous show had been cancelled without telling the workers, who all showed up and signed autographs anyway. I was hoping it was a singular situation, but sure enough, the next day the Tyler show too was cancelled. I went to the Palace anyway, hoping for a repeat of what the wrestlers had done the day before, but no luck. They'd all gone home after the other show and didn't even bother coming to this one. That was pretty much the end of the XWF and I'm still pissed because it was my one chance I would have had to meet Roddy Piper in person. IIRC Piper drove in with Greg Valentine to the Green Bay show. We tried to call him over for pictures and autographs but he just smiled and waved as he hurried inside. I distinctly remember him hugging someone, but who it was has been lost to time in my head. As far as obscure or shortly run promotions to look for, I nominate's Gary Hart's World Class II: The Next Generation. After I typed that, I googled to see how much TV they had and the answer was zero, so scratch that.
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Jul 10, 2017 19:08:06 GMT -5
Post by cmpaul31 on Jul 10, 2017 19:08:06 GMT -5
My favorite moment of the tapings was a random Jerry Lawler comment about Emory Hail. In the promo introducing Hail, Jimmy Hart spent most of the time making really bad "hail" puns. He was also wearing a coat with his client's face on it. Roughly halfway through the match, Lawler says "tell Jimmy his coat looks like Hail." It's silly, but it's what I remember the most. Well, that and Ian Harrison, who looked like he did all the steroids in the greater Orlando area. I have a huge obsession with the late 1999 to early 2003 wrestling scene. One of these days, I'm going to watch all of the failed/wannabe promotions from that time period in order. (XPW, WXO, i-Generation, TCW, MECW, XWF, WWA and maybe some of those RF Video Elks Lodge shows. The only one not available at all is the original IWC.) It'll be expensive, tedious to collect and most likely terrible, but it'll be a hell of a lot of fun. I'm the same; I think it's because I remember the latter stages of the boom period back then meaning these projects were greeted with total enthusiasm, not the cynicism a new promotion promising the world would face today. I have a fancam tape of MECW's first show somewhere, and the ECW Arena was packed; there seemed to be genuine excitement at the time. I remember after Collins vanished and then served jail time for fraud of some kind, he popped up a few months later with yet another new promotion, this one named NWCW(New Wave Championship Wrestling), and cut a promo at a show, during which Public Enemy won their tag belts, rambling about how the company would better utilise wrestlers who had been wasted by WWF, starting with Val Venis.... who was under contract at the time and I doubt had ever heard of the promotion. XWF seemed to have the best chance of becoming a clear #2. In hindsight, it's hard to believe nobody managed to take advantage of the sudden gap in the market left by WCW and ECW, given how big wrestling still was on a mainstream level.
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Post by wrestlingrecap on Jul 26, 2017 9:15:16 GMT -5
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Jul 27, 2017 12:50:19 GMT -5
Post by James Fabiano on Jul 27, 2017 12:50:19 GMT -5
Josh from Tough Enough of course would be our favorite announcer in TNAGFWPGRPG13GNC17
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The XWF
Jul 27, 2017 18:39:53 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 18:39:53 GMT -5
this CWA Bodyguards VS Bandits PPV fascinates me...Was it really only one match?
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Post by wrestlingrecap on Dec 2, 2017 0:12:30 GMT -5
The third and final installment looking at the short-lived promotion, the XWF, has been posted. XWF was ran by Brian Knobs, Jimmy Hart, and Greg Valentine. They produced three one-hour TV programs looking to get it picked up by a network. Check out this review of the final one! wrestlingrecaps.com/2017/12/02/the-xwf-part-three/
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Post by Joe Neglia on Dec 2, 2017 1:48:49 GMT -5
this CWA Bodyguards VS Bandits PPV fascinates me...Was it really only one match? The entire show, no. The PPV portion, yes. There were 3-4 dark matches prior to the aired match.
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Dec 2, 2017 19:08:02 GMT -5
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Post by HisRoyalGreeness on Dec 2, 2017 19:08:02 GMT -5
Was Kevin Northcutt a part of this? As a Power Plant guy not on WWE's radar this seems like he would have.
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Dec 2, 2017 23:56:27 GMT -5
Post by wrestlingrecap on Dec 2, 2017 23:56:27 GMT -5
Was Kevin Northcutt a part of this? As a Power Plant guy not on WWE's radar this seems like he would have. Surprisingly, he didn't make an appearance that I was aware of. I would have thought he'd compete there, too. He was more of a "Jarrett" guy, so it makes sense he didn't get a push or anything until TNA became a thing.
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