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Post by sabretooth on Jul 13, 2017 13:23:58 GMT -5
I wonder if Smackdown is edited in India so that Jinder's segments are shown last? Didn't they do that with Khali? pretty sure that was only a rumor. Ahh, silly me. But Kane is still gonna join DX, right?
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 13, 2017 13:30:03 GMT -5
Because he can't draw flies even if he was covered in shit.
Because he can't work for more than ten minutes without getting tired.
Because the fans will always see him as the guy who lost for five straight years.
Because he lost to f***ing El Torito.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 13, 2017 13:32:26 GMT -5
If the Brooklyn Brawler became champion in 90s, it would be equivalent of what WWE is doing now. At least Brawler had Heenan this would be like if Barry Horowitz won the belt.
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Post by bootytea on Jul 13, 2017 13:49:31 GMT -5
There's not much to do with this Orton feud, so they are obviously filling time until Summerslam.
It is strange that he went weeks defeating top names and is stuck being built up in the midcard.
It could be the lack of main event faces too. They aren't going to have Shinsuke lose to him on a randomn Smackdown.
Come to think of it, Smackdown really needs new talent because I feel I've seen every possible feud for the WWE title. It doesn't help that those feuds are essentially redone for the US title.
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Post by feartear on Jul 13, 2017 13:54:45 GMT -5
It's not the first time something like this happens, remember Sheamus in 2009-10? He went from winning the title from Cena, to squashing Evan Bourne in the middle of Raw, to having a non-existing feud with Orton at the Rumble, then losing the title at Elimination Chamber in the opening match without much of a fanfare.
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Post by SirLucas on Jul 13, 2017 16:15:51 GMT -5
There are still club level seats available from the box office for BattleGround in Philly. This close to the show and not sold out, I guess point made about Jinder's drawing power.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 13, 2017 17:09:01 GMT -5
There are still club level seats available from the box office for BattleGround in Philly. This close to the show and not sold out, I guess point made about Jinder's drawing power. So Vince is risking his business domestically in hopes for a market in India that may not even give a f*** about Jinder to suscribe to the network? Guy can't draw. It's time to end the experiment.
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Post by eJm on Jul 13, 2017 17:10:54 GMT -5
There are still club level seats available from the box office for BattleGround in Philly. This close to the show and not sold out, I guess point made about Jinder's drawing power. So Vince is risking his business domestically in hopes for a market in India that may not even give a f*** about Jinder to suscribe to the network? Guy can't draw. It's time to end the experiment. Also with no real reason for anyone in India to subscribe to the Network when they get all the PPVs for free anyway.
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Post by Yacht Persona on Jul 13, 2017 17:16:58 GMT -5
Because he doesn't belong in the main event with the true stars that people are actually excited to see. This Jinder thing was interesting at first because it came out of nowhere, but now we're settling and seeing the reality of this guy.
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Post by ISO Mid Thigh Pull on Jul 13, 2017 17:39:38 GMT -5
Cause Smackdown's current team has no clue how to book a main event scene. Like, to an embarrassing degree.
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Post by Clint Bobski on Jul 13, 2017 18:28:36 GMT -5
Why? Because we need someone to do the job. And that someone, Jinder, my friend, is...
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Post by trollrogue on Jul 13, 2017 18:44:00 GMT -5
Yaknow I think we're looking at this Jinder 'push' all wrong. Who else does he remind you of, other than a poor-man's JBL, or a poor-man's The Miz w/o a wife or lackeys who aren't cruiser-weight jobbers... or a buffer yet less-charismatic version of Ariya Daivari.
Didn't Daniel Bryan start his 'push' the same way? He was a chickenstuff heel who lucked his way into winning MITB, then took Big Show's title off him when he obviously had to abuse the rules of MITB to pin Show. Then he survived with the WHC until 'Mania when he lasted exactly 8 seconds in the ring with a "real" champ. Isn't the way Jinder being booked at least somewhat similar?
Jinder at least has 2 somewhat clean victories under his defense as Champ, and he never needed the MITB briefcase or a cheapshot to pick up the strap. I think that's where the problem lies, Jinder is being portrayed as somewhat competent when he should be 100% scrambling for everything. I was shocked they allowed him to clean beat Tye Dillinger without any assistance whatsoever. He should not be that strong as a chickenstuff heel, he should be exploiting Tye 'landing wrong' on his ankle and using a submission move like a cheapass to make Tye tap ten times.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jul 13, 2017 19:30:11 GMT -5
Because giving the belt to a heatless jobber doesn't make him a star.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jul 13, 2017 19:49:55 GMT -5
Yaknow I think we're looking at this Jinder 'push' all wrong. Who else does he remind you of, other than a poor-man's JBL, or a poor-man's The Miz w/o a wife or lackeys who aren't cruiser-weight jobbers... or a buffer yet less-charismatic version of Ariya Daivari. Didn't Daniel Bryan start his 'push' the same way? He was a chickenstuff heel who lucked his way into winning MITB, then took Big Show's title off him when he obviously had to abuse the rules of MITB to pin Show. Then he survived with the WHC until 'Mania when he lasted exactly 8 seconds in the ring with a "real" champ. Isn't the way Jinder being booked at least somewhat similar? Jinder at least has 2 somewhat clean victories under his defense as Champ, and he never needed the MITB briefcase or a cheapshot to pick up the strap. I think that's where the problem lies, Jinder is being portrayed as somewhat competent when he should be 100% scrambling for everything. I was shocked they allowed him to clean beat Tye Dillinger without any assistance whatsoever. He should not be that strong as a chickenstuff heel, he should be exploiting Tye 'landing wrong' on his ankle and using a submission move like a cheapass to make Tye tap ten times. yeah but no. Daniel Bryan was presented as a legit competitor who was always taking the easy way out and, more importantly, the fans actually liked the guy.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 13, 2017 19:58:22 GMT -5
Yaknow I think we're looking at this Jinder 'push' all wrong. Who else does he remind you of, other than a poor-man's JBL, or a poor-man's The Miz w/o a wife or lackeys who aren't cruiser-weight jobbers... or a buffer yet less-charismatic version of Ariya Daivari. Didn't Daniel Bryan start his 'push' the same way? He was a chickenstuff heel who lucked his way into winning MITB, then took Big Show's title off him when he obviously had to abuse the rules of MITB to pin Show. Then he survived with the WHC until 'Mania when he lasted exactly 8 seconds in the ring with a "real" champ. Isn't the way Jinder being booked at least somewhat similar? Jinder at least has 2 somewhat clean victories under his defense as Champ, and he never needed the MITB briefcase or a cheapshot to pick up the strap. I think that's where the problem lies, Jinder is being portrayed as somewhat competent when he should be 100% scrambling for everything. I was shocked they allowed him to clean beat Tye Dillinger without any assistance whatsoever. He should not be that strong as a chickenstuff heel, he should be exploiting Tye 'landing wrong' on his ankle and using a submission move like a cheapass to make Tye tap ten times. But Bryan wasn't a career jobber, he was a us champ and he actually defeated name guys. Jinder got punked out by Gronk lol
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 13, 2017 19:59:56 GMT -5
So Vince is risking his business domestically in hopes for a market in India that may not even give a f*** about Jinder to suscribe to the network? Guy can't draw. It's time to end the experiment. Also with no real reason for anyone in India to subscribe to the Network when they get all the PPVs for free anyway. Really? Then what's the f***ing point?? If the wwe doesn't stop giving them ppvs for free then they just f***ed it up. Like Dixie Carter levels of f*** up.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jul 13, 2017 20:02:02 GMT -5
Yaknow I think we're looking at this Jinder 'push' all wrong. Who else does he remind you of, other than a poor-man's JBL, or a poor-man's The Miz w/o a wife or lackeys who aren't cruiser-weight jobbers... or a buffer yet less-charismatic version of Ariya Daivari. Didn't Daniel Bryan start his 'push' the same way? He was a chickenstuff heel who lucked his way into winning MITB, then took Big Show's title off him when he obviously had to abuse the rules of MITB to pin Show. Then he survived with the WHC until 'Mania when he lasted exactly 8 seconds in the ring with a "real" champ. Isn't the way Jinder being booked at least somewhat similar? Jinder at least has 2 somewhat clean victories under his defense as Champ, and he never needed the MITB briefcase or a cheapshot to pick up the strap. I think that's where the problem lies, Jinder is being portrayed as somewhat competent when he should be 100% scrambling for everything. I was shocked they allowed him to clean beat Tye Dillinger without any assistance whatsoever. He should not be that strong as a chickenstuff heel, he should be exploiting Tye 'landing wrong' on his ankle and using a submission move like a cheapass to make Tye tap ten times. Daniel Bryan could wrestle. Amazing, main event length matches. Until the week he won that battle royal, Jinder hadn't wrestled a more than 5 minute match in 5 years, and that's including BEFORE he did something traditionally known to screw with your cardio conditioning.
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Post by asellus on Jul 13, 2017 22:12:49 GMT -5
I'm astounded he's still got the belt. I thought with the reports of even less people coming to watch perennial jobber as champion they would pull the plug on this experiement.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 13, 2017 22:20:07 GMT -5
Yaknow I think we're looking at this Jinder 'push' all wrong. Who else does he remind you of, other than a poor-man's JBL, or a poor-man's The Miz w/o a wife or lackeys who aren't cruiser-weight jobbers... or a buffer yet less-charismatic version of Ariya Daivari. Didn't Daniel Bryan start his 'push' the same way? He was a chickenstuff heel who lucked his way into winning MITB, then took Big Show's title off him when he obviously had to abuse the rules of MITB to pin Show. Then he survived with the WHC until 'Mania when he lasted exactly 8 seconds in the ring with a "real" champ. Isn't the way Jinder being booked at least somewhat similar? Jinder at least has 2 somewhat clean victories under his defense as Champ, and he never needed the MITB briefcase or a cheapshot to pick up the strap. I think that's where the problem lies, Jinder is being portrayed as somewhat competent when he should be 100% scrambling for everything. I was shocked they allowed him to clean beat Tye Dillinger without any assistance whatsoever. He should not be that strong as a chickenstuff heel, he should be exploiting Tye 'landing wrong' on his ankle and using a submission move like a cheapass to make Tye tap ten times. Daniel Bryan could wrestle. Amazing, main event length matches. Until the week he won that battle royal, Jinder hadn't wrestled a more than 5 minute match in 5 years, and that's including BEFORE he did something traditionally known to screw with your cardio conditioning. I just watched his match against Tye Dillinger. ...more than ever I understand now why management had nothing for him for his whole career.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Jul 13, 2017 22:29:52 GMT -5
Yaknow I think we're looking at this Jinder 'push' all wrong. Who else does he remind you of, other than a poor-man's JBL, or a poor-man's The Miz w/o a wife or lackeys who aren't cruiser-weight jobbers... or a buffer yet less-charismatic version of Ariya Daivari. Didn't Daniel Bryan start his 'push' the same way? He was a chickenstuff heel who lucked his way into winning MITB, then took Big Show's title off him when he obviously had to abuse the rules of MITB to pin Show. Then he survived with the WHC until 'Mania when he lasted exactly 8 seconds in the ring with a "real" champ. Isn't the way Jinder being booked at least somewhat similar? Jinder at least has 2 somewhat clean victories under his defense as Champ, and he never needed the MITB briefcase or a cheapshot to pick up the strap. I think that's where the problem lies, Jinder is being portrayed as somewhat competent when he should be 100% scrambling for everything. I was shocked they allowed him to clean beat Tye Dillinger without any assistance whatsoever. He should not be that strong as a chickenstuff heel, he should be exploiting Tye 'landing wrong' on his ankle and using a submission move like a cheapass to make Tye tap ten times. No, Daniel Bryan was a face when he won the MITB, he didn't turn heel until after he won the WHC from Show...and it was 18 seconds, after Sheamus "sucker kicked" him.
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