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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 15, 2017 21:57:58 GMT -5
it's really a shame about the drugs, injuries, and Fritz shenanigans because Kerry had all of the tools to be a huge star during the WWF expansion if he had his shit together. Almost, anyway. Even by the limited standards of the '80s and early '90s he was a terrible promo. Charismatic as f***, but it never translated to his mic work. |
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Post by hesgotabithycle on Sept 15, 2017 22:25:47 GMT -5
it's really a shame about the drugs, injuries, and Fritz shenanigans because Kerry had all of the tools to be a huge star during the WWF expansion if he had his shit together. Almost, anyway. Even by the limited standards of the '80s and early '90s he was a terrible promo. Charismatic as f***, but it never translated to his mic work. Honestly, I just don't think he was the brightest guy. Even before the drugs and lifestyle started to take its toll. |
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Sept 15, 2017 22:46:40 GMT -5
Kerry was death on the mic. He did have an insane natural charisma and great look that carried him a long way. The only Von Erich who could work a mic was David and I think a lot if that came from his tine playing a heel.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Sept 15, 2017 22:50:14 GMT -5
it's really a shame about the drugs, injuries, and Fritz shenanigans because Kerry had all of the tools to be a huge star during the WWF expansion if he had his shit together. Almost, anyway. Even by the limited standards of the '80s and early '90s he was a terrible promo. Charismatic as f***, but it never translated to his mic work. He was the big dumb goof of the Von Erich family. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 15, 2017 23:19:25 GMT -5
Almost, anyway. Even by the limited standards of the '80s and early '90s he was a terrible promo. Charismatic as f***, but it never translated to his mic work. Honestly, I just don't think he was the brightest guy. Even before the drugs and lifestyle started to take its toll. Pretty much everybody alive today who knew him well said he never had much in the way of smarts - book or street - and got by on being a super likeable guy with an innate ability to project his personality in the way he carried himself, his body language, and his selling. If he had any kind of promo talent he could've achieved so much more. |
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Post by brody on Sept 16, 2017 7:08:00 GMT -5
it's really a shame about the drugs, injuries, and Fritz shenanigans because Kerry had all of the tools to be a huge star during the WWF expansion if he had his shit together. You need to look no further than SuperClash 85 where Chicago fans lose their minds over Kerry to see how widespread his love was, even after the WCCW peak. |
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Post by brody on Sept 16, 2017 13:47:15 GMT -5
I just read an old WON from Mania 3 and Kerry Von Erich just had 2 arteries die in his foot and his comeback is now in serious jeopardy as of March 87.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 13:30:20 GMT -5
And Kevin VE's story about Kerry waking up after surgery and getting up to get a hamburger, accidentally crushing the foot again, is absolute BS. Weird, I read that part above and absolutely believe.... ...well, ok. It is probably BS, but I can absolutely believe that something so mundane (mixed with the whole "Fritz pushed him to come back / him agreeing") was what did it. When I saw the initial post my first thought was he didn't lose it immediately, first surgery probably went ok, but I'm sure he reinjured it or just didn't take the recovery seriously and that was what cost him his foot. But man, wrestling is such a horrifying place sometimes that something like "getting up and walking to the fridge after the surgery" is absolutely believable to me... |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 18, 2017 14:25:54 GMT -5
And Kevin VE's story about Kerry waking up after surgery and getting up to get a hamburger, accidentally crushing the foot again, is absolute BS. Weird, I read that part above and absolutely believe.... ...well, ok. It is probably BS, but I can absolutely believe that something so mundane (mixed with the whole "Fritz pushed him to come back / him agreeing") was what did it. When I saw the initial post my first thought was he didn't lose it immediately, first surgery probably went ok, but I'm sure he reinjured it or just didn't take the recovery seriously and that was what cost him his foot. But man, wrestling is such a horrifying place sometimes that something like "getting up and walking to the fridge after the surgery" is absolutely believable to me... It's a good story, for sure, and very believable. Except numerous other sources have noted the 2nd surgery which ended up taking the foot came weeks after he was released from the hospital the first time. Honestly, it's a pattern one can start to see in their stories about their own tragedies. From David's death to Mike's illness to Kerry's accident, the VE's have always presented them as something other than what actually happened. Drug overdoses and abusively-demanding fathers don't fit the narrative. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 15:40:38 GMT -5
Weird, I read that part above and absolutely believe.... ...well, ok. It is probably BS, but I can absolutely believe that something so mundane (mixed with the whole "Fritz pushed him to come back / him agreeing") was what did it. When I saw the initial post my first thought was he didn't lose it immediately, first surgery probably went ok, but I'm sure he reinjured it or just didn't take the recovery seriously and that was what cost him his foot. But man, wrestling is such a horrifying place sometimes that something like "getting up and walking to the fridge after the surgery" is absolutely believable to me... It's a good story, for sure, and very believable. Except numerous other sources have noted the 2nd surgery which ended up taking the foot came weeks after he was released from the hospital the first time. Honestly, it's a pattern one can start to see in their stories about their own tragedies. From David's death to Mike's illness to Kerry's accident, the VE's have always presented them as something other than what actually happened. Drug overdoses and abusively-demanding fathers don't fit the narrative. Yeah, I neglected to fully appreciate the fact that it was the Von Erich's we were talking about here. Tragedy exists in all forms within that clan's sad horror filled history, so a little twist here and there is almost unnoticeable to the untrained eye... |
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Post by celtics543 on Sept 18, 2017 18:47:34 GMT -5
it's really a shame about the drugs, injuries, and Fritz shenanigans because Kerry had all of the tools to be a huge star during the WWF expansion if he had his shit together. People say this a lot but I think his accent would have really held him back. Vince hated the southern accent and Kerry's was really strong. |
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Post by dirkburton on Sept 18, 2017 19:43:51 GMT -5
Anyone know where I can find Kerry match against Brian Adias from Feb 87? It's his first match back after the accident and supposedly the match that caused him to need the amputation. Been looking for that match for ages but it's never surfaced online.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 18, 2017 20:28:49 GMT -5
it's really a shame about the drugs, injuries, and Fritz shenanigans because Kerry had all of the tools to be a huge star during the WWF expansion if he had his shit together. Almost, anyway. Even by the limited standards of the '80s and early '90s he was a terrible promo. Charismatic as f***, but it never translated to his mic work. Want me to be serious on this? That wasn't just Kerry, that went for ALL of the brothers. Even David. David was better than Kevin or Kerry, for sure, but he wasn't good at all. It fit their "aw shucks" gimmick and style as local boys in Dallas, but it wasn't going to get them anywhere elsewhere. I'd love to know more about how the Florida venture went in terms of box office and fan reception, because I can't imagine it really getting high marks for either. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 1:31:59 GMT -5
If the "he got up to get a hamburger" story is untrue, that's one of the weirdest, most pointless lies I've ever heard. Just telling everyone he came back too soon from the injury, if that's really what happened, sounds better.
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Post by brody on Sept 19, 2017 9:54:24 GMT -5
Almost, anyway. Even by the limited standards of the '80s and early '90s he was a terrible promo. Charismatic as f***, but it never translated to his mic work. Want me to be serious on this? That wasn't just Kerry, that went for ALL of the brothers. Even David. David was better than Kevin or Kerry, for sure, but he wasn't good at all. It fit their "aw shucks" gimmick and style as local boys in Dallas, but it wasn't going to get them anywhere elsewhere. I'd love to know more about how the Florida venture went in terms of box office and fan reception, because I can't imagine it really getting high marks for either. There is (was?) at least one Von Erich heel promo from Florida on youtube. Fritz is basically acting as the boys manager and Kerry is doing the arrogant heel flexes as his dad talks them all up. |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 19, 2017 10:09:43 GMT -5
Want me to be serious on this? That wasn't just Kerry, that went for ALL of the brothers. Even David. David was better than Kevin or Kerry, for sure, but he wasn't good at all. It fit their "aw shucks" gimmick and style as local boys in Dallas, but it wasn't going to get them anywhere elsewhere. I'd love to know more about how the Florida venture went in terms of box office and fan reception, because I can't imagine it really getting high marks for either. There is (was?) at least one Von Erich heel promo from Florida on youtube. Fritz is basically acting as the boys manager and Kerry is doing the arrogant heel flexes as his dad talks them all up. Fritz could talk. Not a single one of his boys could. There's several heel promos from David and Kerry from their Florida run on YT and they are cringeworthy. David's almost competent but Kerry is just...not. |
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Sept 19, 2017 11:03:41 GMT -5
Honestly, I just don't think he was the brightest guy. Even before the drugs and lifestyle started to take its toll. Pretty much everybody alive today who knew him well said he never had much in the way of smarts - book or street - and got by on being a super likeable guy with an innate ability to project his personality in the way he carried himself, his body language, and his selling. If he had any kind of promo talent he could've achieved so much more. Rey Mysterio, Jeff Hardy and Bret Hart are/were in kinda the same boat. I feel all three are better interviews than Kerry ever was, but they're also examples of charismatic wrestlers whose personalities didn't necessarily translate to the mic the way Flair's and Rock's did. |
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Post by brody on Oct 1, 2017 5:20:24 GMT -5
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Post by dirkburton on Oct 1, 2017 16:22:42 GMT -5
Is the comeback match with adias on tape anywhere The guy on Youtube who has all the old WCCW videos told me he has it somewhere on tape, but it would take too long to find it. But it is on tape somewhere. The only thing I could find on Youtube was a tussle they had, just search for "Kevin Von Erich vs Brian Adias" where Kerry does a run-in. It's either shortly before the match or a later that year after the amputation. Kerry's awkward as hell on his right foot and struggles just to bodyslam a guy. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 3, 2017 4:54:15 GMT -5
If the "he got up to get a hamburger" story is untrue, that's one of the weirdest, most pointless lies I've ever heard. Just telling everyone he came back too soon from the injury, if that's really what happened, sounds better. I think it's because the hamburger story puts it on him and has it be an accident rather than reckless behavior, whereas coming back too soon has more than just him culpable for what happened. |
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