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Post by The Rick Jericho on Sept 24, 2017 11:32:35 GMT -5
With Blue Jay Jose Bautista wrapping up his stint as a Blue Jay. He have seen the highs and the lows, the peak and now the decline. He probably won't come back, but it got me thinking, who else here has witnessed their star player, slowly and then rapidly decline to the point where they hung on too long and had to go.
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Post by sfvega on Sept 25, 2017 3:38:33 GMT -5
My favorite football player growing up was Warren Sapp (as a kid, I was unaware he was a shithead IRL). Drafted in 95, became a dominant force in the late 90s, helped drive my Bucs to a SB win in 2002, and was never the same guy again. Left for the Raiders, had some so-so seasons, started gaining more weight and it was all over.
I would think lots and lots of people's favorite football players fit the bill. Especially RBs whose window of greatness seems imminently fleeting all the time. I was never that big a fan, but look at Priest Holmes. I know it was more his HOF O-line, but he was on top of the world one minute and out the door the next.
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Post by fw91 on Sept 25, 2017 9:57:45 GMT -5
David Wright went from great player to good to not so good to constantly injured and will prob never play again quite rapidly
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 25, 2017 15:41:03 GMT -5
Derek Jeter
His last season was a chore to sit through as you can see he clearly wasn't the same player anymore. Joe Girardi didn't have enough spine to actually remove him from the 2 hole and play him lower in the order which hurt the team.
Peyton Manning last season as well can be included for me. He fell off a cliff for his last year in regards to what he used to look like and what he was that year. He went out with a ring tho so good for him
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 25, 2017 16:08:20 GMT -5
Started to see it happen with Albert Pujols when he left the Cardinals who hasn't had a Pujols numbers of a season with the Angels as in MVP caliber and gold gloves. Currently seeing it with Adam Wainwright and it's sad to see. The guy went from being an Ace in the league and Cy Young contender, and been struggling since his 2015 season injury. There is a post season announcement with him (Talked of another surgery) and I have a feeling because of his age, he at the end of road on his playing career. Watched it happened with Chris Carpenter as well, just trying to comeback but couldn't be the same guy. McGuire did the same, couple seasons after hitting 70, he was out with a knee problem. He was so loved and this was way before the Steroids stuff.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 25, 2017 20:55:17 GMT -5
Derek Jeter's last season was painful to watch. Same with A-Rod. Even if they can still perform, you can tell something's missing from them and they aren't the prime athlete they used to be.
In hockey, I most recently experienced this with Marty Brodeur. His last season with the Devils... man, he just looked old. Especially when he would give up easy goals that even 4-5 years ago he'd stop with little effort.
And then you had Mariano Rivera, who in spite of his age and upcoming retirement, still managed to put the fear of God into nearly every batter he faced.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 21:27:34 GMT -5
Michael Jordan gong from the (arguably) the greatest basketball player of all time to becoming the 6th man for a mediocre Wizards team
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Sept 25, 2017 22:47:36 GMT -5
Im a huge Tom Brady fan and its been rough watching him in the twilight of his career
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Sept 26, 2017 9:41:02 GMT -5
Started to see it happen with Albert Pujols when he left the Cardinals who hasn't had a Pujols numbers of a season with the Angels as in MVP caliber and gold gloves. Currently seeing it with Adam Wainwright and it's sad to see. The guy went from being an Ace in the league and Cy Young contender, and been struggling since his 2015 season injury. There is a post season announcement with him (Talked of another surgery) and I have a feeling because of his age, he at the end of road on his playing career. Watched it happened with Chris Carpenter as well, just trying to comeback but couldn't be the same guy. McGuire did the same, couple seasons after hitting 70, he was out with a knee problem. He was so loved and this was way before the Steroids stuff. Came here to post Albert. It's sad to see him accumulate NEGATIVE WAR these days. On the opposite end, Adrian Beltre is still a beast, and even at age 38 he can be counted on for 5 or so WAR throughout the course of a normal season. Actually, Beltre is pretty much the bizarro athlete - someone who starts off slowly and gets much better once he reaches 30. |
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Sept 26, 2017 9:41:42 GMT -5
Im a huge Tom Brady fan and its been rough watching him in the twilight of his career But he just won a Super Bowl. I would think that this would negate any feelings of him being past his prime. |
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Sept 26, 2017 10:57:14 GMT -5
Started to see it happen with Albert Pujols when he left the Cardinals who hasn't had a Pujols numbers of a season with the Angels as in MVP caliber and gold gloves. Currently seeing it with Adam Wainwright and it's sad to see. The guy went from being an Ace in the league and Cy Young contender, and been struggling since his 2015 season injury. There is a post season announcement with him (Talked of another surgery) and I have a feeling because of his age, he at the end of road on his playing career. Watched it happened with Chris Carpenter as well, just trying to comeback but couldn't be the same guy. McGuire did the same, couple seasons after hitting 70, he was out with a knee problem. He was so loved and this was way before the Steroids stuff. Frankly I'm a bit surprised that Yadi's held up to the degree he has, given his play style and number of games at such a demanding position. |
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Sept 26, 2017 11:05:12 GMT -5
Im a huge Tom Brady fan and its been rough watching him in the twilight of his career But he just won a Super Bowl. I would think that this would negate any feelings of him being past his prime. I wouldn't either.I would say he is closer to retirement to this rookie year, and I doubt he will put up a record production year any time soon. That being said, I am sure if he got cut today, many teams would take a chance on him |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Sept 27, 2017 12:59:35 GMT -5
Im a huge Tom Brady fan and its been rough watching him in the twilight of his career He had the second best QB Rating of his entire career last season. |
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 27, 2017 13:44:16 GMT -5
Started to see it happen with Albert Pujols when he left the Cardinals who hasn't had a Pujols numbers of a season with the Angels as in MVP caliber and gold gloves. Currently seeing it with Adam Wainwright and it's sad to see. The guy went from being an Ace in the league and Cy Young contender, and been struggling since his 2015 season injury. There is a post season announcement with him (Talked of another surgery) and I have a feeling because of his age, he at the end of road on his playing career. Watched it happened with Chris Carpenter as well, just trying to comeback but couldn't be the same guy. McGuire did the same, couple seasons after hitting 70, he was out with a knee problem. He was so loved and this was way before the Steroids stuff. Frankly I'm a bit surprised that Yadi's held up to the degree he has, given his play style and number of games at such a demanding position. Yadi is a freak, lol. Now people saying Tom Brady, he still playing at an elite level. I haven't seen the big decline in his game play. The guy still better than most of the league. |
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Sept 27, 2017 15:20:37 GMT -5
Im a huge Tom Brady fan and its been rough watching him in the twilight of his career He had the second best QB Rating of his entire career last season. It wasan attempt at a joke |
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Post by Push R Truth on Sept 27, 2017 15:23:38 GMT -5
Favre was interesting. There really wasn't a decline as much as he just drove off a giant cliff. He goes from MVP-Football-Jesus level to Starting-Browns-QB level in one offseason.
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Post by RI Richmark on Sept 28, 2017 19:49:23 GMT -5
As a Celtics fan it was tough watching Larry Bird in the 90s. Seeing him laying down in front of the bench. Never knowing game to game if he was going to be able to play that night. He would still have nights where he would be able to play like the old Larry but it wouldn't last.
Kevin McHale and Robert Parish were also in decline and one has to wonder if the Celtics would have been better off trading them and looking towards the future but the Celtics couldn't bring themselves to do it.
However Danny Ainge learned from history and when KG and Paul Pierce were reaching their end he sold them off for a kings ransom.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 1, 2017 17:30:31 GMT -5
Started to see it happen with Albert Pujols when he left the Cardinals who hasn't had a Pujols numbers of a season with the Angels as in MVP caliber and gold gloves. Currently seeing it with Adam Wainwright and it's sad to see. The guy went from being an Ace in the league and Cy Young contender, and been struggling since his 2015 season injury. There is a post season announcement with him (Talked of another surgery) and I have a feeling because of his age, he at the end of road on his playing career. Watched it happened with Chris Carpenter as well, just trying to comeback but couldn't be the same guy. McGuire did the same, couple seasons after hitting 70, he was out with a knee problem. He was so loved and this was way before the Steroids stuff. I guess there is a reason Pujols and Bautista were ranked the worst players in baseball this year. I believe due to WAR. Sad to see them both decline this fast. |
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Post by hossfan on Oct 1, 2017 18:36:15 GMT -5
Tim Wakefield going from the unsung hero of the Red Sox pitching staff to someone who was detested because people thought keeping him around to get the team record in wins hurt the organization.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Oct 1, 2017 20:07:32 GMT -5
Started to see it happen with Albert Pujols when he left the Cardinals who hasn't had a Pujols numbers of a season with the Angels as in MVP caliber and gold gloves. Currently seeing it with Adam Wainwright and it's sad to see. The guy went from being an Ace in the league and Cy Young contender, and been struggling since his 2015 season injury. There is a post season announcement with him (Talked of another surgery) and I have a feeling because of his age, he at the end of road on his playing career. Watched it happened with Chris Carpenter as well, just trying to comeback but couldn't be the same guy. McGuire did the same, couple seasons after hitting 70, he was out with a knee problem. He was so loved and this was way before the Steroids stuff. I guess there is a reason Pujols and Bautista were ranked the worst players in baseball this year. I believe due to WAR. Sad to see them both decline this fast. Yeah because Pujols is sad to watch. He batting under .250 when he was a .300+ hitter. He can't run or play defense anymore. When he was a golden Glove first baseman. The Angels are going into the higher years of the contract on the pay level for a player most people are saying shouldn't be in the line up at all. Angels need help to get into the post season and Albert's deal is preventing that because of payroll. Sad to see but he has to much pride to step aside for them. |
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