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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Nov 19, 2017 20:05:59 GMT -5
Quite a few restaurants don't live past their first couple of years. A lot of overhead, a shit-ton of competition (San Antonio has a lot of great places to eat), etc, makes for a lot of challenges for the beast of entrepreneurs, so I don't know how much to shit on Del Rio in this instance. Plenty of stuff to complain about with him with or without this. I can't remember who said it but supposedly the average lifespan of a restaurant is around 2 to 5 years.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 19, 2017 20:18:14 GMT -5
Quite a few restaurants don't live past their first couple of years. A lot of overhead, a shit-ton of competition (San Antonio has a lot of great places to eat), etc, makes for a lot of challenges for the beast of entrepreneurs, so I don't know how much to shit on Del Rio in this instance. Plenty of stuff to complain about with him with or without this. I can't remember who said it but supposedly the average lifespan of a restaurant is around 2 to 5 years. I think it's a commonly brought up statistic, I know I first heard it when someone was saying Gordon Ramsay was bad at saving places, though honestly, if he didn't go, they'd die, anyway. Any of them that survive after his intervention is pretty much a success.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Nov 20, 2017 15:10:27 GMT -5
I can't remember who said it but supposedly the average lifespan of a restaurant is around 2 to 5 years. I think it's a commonly brought up statistic, I know I first heard it when someone was saying Gordon Ramsay was bad at saving places, though honestly, if he didn't go, they'd die, anyway. Any of them that survive after his intervention is pretty much a success. I'm no fan of Ramsay but it seems like a lot of those places are beyond help and will die regardless of who tries to help them. Though at least Alberto didn't own a bar or nightclub as that could of made things a lot worse.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 20, 2017 17:15:55 GMT -5
Quite a few restaurants don't live past their first couple of years. A lot of overhead, a shit-ton of competition (San Antonio has a lot of great places to eat), etc, makes for a lot of challenges for the beast of entrepreneurs, so I don't know how much to shit on Del Rio in this instance. Plenty of stuff to complain about with him with or without this. Yeah, most restaurants fail. Part of it is a lot of people don't fully understand how much work it actually is to keep it running.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 20, 2017 17:18:48 GMT -5
I think it's a commonly brought up statistic, I know I first heard it when someone was saying Gordon Ramsay was bad at saving places, though honestly, if he didn't go, they'd die, anyway. Any of them that survive after his intervention is pretty much a success. I'm no fan of Ramsay but it seems like a lot of those places are beyond help and will die regardless of who tries to help them. Though at least Alberto did own a bar or nightclub as that could of made things a lot worse. A lot of the places on things like Kitchen Nightmares call when they are like millions of dollars in debt... it doesn't really matter how successful you are going to be that is a massive deficit to work out of.
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Post by bootytea on Nov 20, 2017 17:43:46 GMT -5
People really underestimate how difficult running a restaurant is, especially because it's a non-essential business.
I've worked in one restaurant that closed while I was there and ran from one when I could see the ship sinking. The common denominator is usually lack of research. It doesn't matter how spectacular or mediocre the food is, if you don't study the spending habits of the area you want to run or not structure the menu based on customer desires, you will fail.
I feel bad for Del Rio because he is going through a lot. You can hate his anger and use that to feel like a perfect person all you want, but none of us have any right to kick a man who is obviously really down.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 20, 2017 21:22:06 GMT -5
Quite a few restaurants don't live past their first couple of years. A lot of overhead, a shit-ton of competition (San Antonio has a lot of great places to eat), etc, makes for a lot of challenges for the beast of entrepreneurs, so I don't know how much to shit on Del Rio in this instance. Plenty of stuff to complain about with him with or without this. Yeah, most restaurants fail. Part of it is a lot of people don't fully understand how much work it actually is to keep it running. Yep, plus there's a lot of startup cost.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 23:02:29 GMT -5
Eateries, especially independent ones, are often losing establishments.
That's why they usually have limited hours and specific menus.
That space was just way too big for anything that wasn't an Applebee's franchise.
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Post by Dub H on Nov 21, 2017 10:41:03 GMT -5
I'm no fan of Ramsay but it seems like a lot of those places are beyond help and will die regardless of who tries to help them. Though at least Alberto did own a bar or nightclub as that could of made things a lot worse. A lot of the places on things like Kitchen Nightmares call when they are like millions of dollars in debt... it doesn't really matter how successful you are going to be that is a massive deficit to work out of. plus some of then simply sell afterward and make a profit out of the renewal reputation and makeover
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Nov 21, 2017 10:49:05 GMT -5
What a dummy, this is all he had to do
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 21, 2017 13:37:29 GMT -5
A lot of the places on things like Kitchen Nightmares call when they are like millions of dollars in debt... it doesn't really matter how successful you are going to be that is a massive deficit to work out of. plus some of then simply sell afterward and make a profit out of the renewal reputation and makeover Or the owners simply go back to what they were doing because most of them are arrogant/deluded as hell
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Post by Aya Reiko on Nov 21, 2017 13:50:36 GMT -5
My bets are on Al being an absentee owner anyway. Probably didn't do the research and badly underestimated how much work was going to be needed for it to merely break even.
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Post by tenshi on Nov 21, 2017 16:29:54 GMT -5
My bets are on Al being an absentee owner anyway. Probably didn't do the research and badly underestimated how much work was going to be needed for it to merely break even. That makes sense, honestly. If you go to his social media pages, you don't see many mentions of La Cantinita, which got the most publicity back when it opened and when he challenged Triple H, the Usos and the New Day to go there. Considering that a big key of marketing is promoting your product and he didn't seem to do much of that, it's no wonder why his restaurant went down. It doesn't help that his behavior doesn't gather too much goodwill and he wasn't around to work directly with it anyways so there's that too.
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